The Digger Archives Guestbook 2003

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NOTE: this file contains the entries from March, 2003. The regular Guestbook contains entries later in 2003.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: MFPNYC
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Open Letter to my friends at United for Peace and Justic, No Blood For Oil,Not In Our Name, NYC Anarchists, ACT UP NYC, RCP Youth Brigade, The Brooklyn Greens, Loud Brooklyn Dykes, Booklyn Parents for Peace, Hunter Col. Student Lib eration Action Movement, Reclaim the Streets, The Pink Bloc, Shift Control, Black Cross, Medical Activists of NY, Not In Our Name Youth, Wetlands Activism Center, Williamsburg Peace Coalition, Industrial Workers of the World NYC Branch, *And Others: Thanks for your' support and encouragement. All of you fuckers made some big points here. See you all this Sunday. Got loads more Free Digger Bread (with butter this time) and free cold drinks. Will also set up a Mic for P.A. system. See ya in Church. Steve

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: 49th&5th
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Shit, I missed Ramsey Clark's press conference here at the Peace Church. Thanks again Hammond. Hey Nik; I have a copy of "The Last Empire", 1986 film featuring Chomsky, Zinn, Dellums, Forsberg, Ellsberg, Caldicott and Tsipis. You gotta see it. Later. M.F.P.N.Y.C.The Monochrome Mute.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

It is alive! Mutes for Peace is represented.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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It Works!!!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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HTML is such a pain!!!

Here it is one last time folks

Mute Force! http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mutesforpeace.html

Please say it works......

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Hammond, all I bring up is a blank page; John

Name: 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Mark..... Hummm....... I will investigate but it really should be working - can anyone see it? someone? http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mutesforpeace.html

 

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

I just checked it again at 2:45 pm Pacific Time and it is still blank.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Hammond, leaving the office now, and if you think the great lakes poem is a better bio...well sir, you are the editor and I trust you.

Name: Cat D
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Hi everyone i finaly took the plunge and bought my first PC so I can visit more often. Its been a very busy month at work so I havn't been around .Just popping in to say hello and I hope this message finds you all well.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Mark - thanks, I am working on the site so at times it might not work. I have redone the image - see if it works now

Mute Force! http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mutesforpeace.html

Name: TRON WILLIAMS
EmailAddress: TRONTAZZ5@HOTMAIL.COM
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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NO COMMENTS, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU SOME POEMS IN MY HEAD. MY MIND IS FULL OF WORDS THAT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD NEED TO LISTEND. I HAVE THINGS THAT A MAN CAN'T HANDLE NO MORE. WE DIE AND HOPE TO LIVE AGAIN, BUT WISH WE CAN PAID I WAY TO HEAVEN. GOD IS NOT A JUDGE OR A LAWYER, BUT YOU CAN'T GET WAY WITH THE CRIMES THE YOU DID. I AM TRYING TO LET PEOPLE NO THAT A COUNTRY MAN WILL DIE IN YOUR ARM WITH SAD GOOD BYES, BUT WANT YOU LIVE AGAIN. WHEN YOU DIE TO SOON, YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE THAT HELL IS YOUR HOME TO LIVE IN. DON'T CRY BECAUSE YOU DID WRONG AND WANT TO REPENT YOUR SINS. YOU DON'T HAVE NO FRIENDS WHO LOVE YOU LIKE YOUR FAMILY DO. LET ME STOP AND JUST EMAIL ME

Name: Mark
EmailAddress: Techsupport@Mutesforpeace.com
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

I just tried that link you posted 3 times and it is coming up as Mutes for Peace but no image. Check it out as I think it needs some tweaking.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Mark - and ?

Steve's pic direct access!

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mutesforpeace.html

 

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Nicole,

I got your message. Looks like all is okay here. Maybe it was a web traffic problem that has passed.

I haven't heard from Eileen yet as she is in the process of settling in on the Big Island.

 

Scroll down through the weekend messages and find the link to Steve's picture from IndyMedia NYC during the "die in" in Manhattan last week. Very inspiring.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Nicole,

I got your message. Looks like all is okay here. Maybe it was a web traffic problem that has passed.

I haven't heard from Eileen yet as she is in the process of settling in on the Big Island.

 

Scroll down through the weekend messages and find the link to Steve's picture from IndyMedia NYC during the "die in" in Manhattan last week. Very inspiring.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Eric,Mark, Hammond and Steve...well here I am so it's okay now...just a temporary glitch I guess...

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Patrick, Eileen is in the middle of moving...to Hawaii I think...she thought she might be out of touch for a bit...good hearing from you again...

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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Patrick, Eileen is in the middle of moving...to Hawaii I think...she thought she might be out of touch for a bit...good hearing from you again...

Name: patrick
EmailAddress: quick, reverse the fan
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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This just in.It looks like Peter Arnett is has just died for Bush's sins.All the other reporters seem to tremble this morning after Arnett was canned for spewing the truth. Silent Steve-- Now I realize why I have moved back to the city from the deep mountain woods.You don't need to change your look man. Fierce is GOOD. WWhere is Eileen?

Name: patrick
EmailAddress: quick, reverse the fan
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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This just in.It looks like Peter Arnett is has just died for Bush's sins.All the other reporters seem to tremble this morning after Arnett was canned for spewing the truth. Silent Steve-- Now I realize why I have moved back to the city from the deep mountain woods.You don't need to change your look man. Fierce is GOOD. WWhere is Eileen?

Name: Annie Christ
EmailAddress: MildAnarchist@excite.com
Date: 31 Mar 2003

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<HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE></TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Attention all anarchists:

<a href=http://www24.brinkster.com/anarchyalliance>click here to visit the International Anarchist’s Alliance</a>

</BODY> </HTML>

Name: Steve Presley
EmailAddress: Memphis Rising
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Hammond...(I mean Col. Parker)..you can have every word that I ever spewed. Re-shape them, mix and match em'...cut up, paste up. Do yer' beat thing. Have at it. Build a Super Human. Mutes For Peace...("Ya' dont say??)...

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: standing on the Nile
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Great Meeting. Man those Anarchists are just to damned organized. It defeats the purpose. Kinda' like a filthy neat-freak. Big meeting again next Sunday. Get Here. Big Doin's. Radiant??!!!..ya,..ya, ..sure..like a monochrome mummy rising from Memphis. I saw a photo of me getting hand cuffed; resembled the President of the Straight Satans getting busted with Manson,...I need a good make-over.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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3rd page, I looked, I Liked, very enigmatic.

Name: 3rd Page Archive
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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This is from Vol. 1 - Click on each image to continue - :-) The 3rd Page

"Live Open" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/LIVEOPEN.HTML

Name: Turning over in my grave
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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When the going got tough in '68 the "tough" got going, headed to the hills. The theorists an tacticians an philosophers fell over each other to get out of town, when it got too real. Steve you look radiant in that picture. Great Shot. Unless the momentum is turned it wont matter how many shrubs we plant.

Name: FYI Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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On April 5th QUICKSILVER GOLD will be performing their debut concert at The Marin Center Exhibit Hall, located 20 miles north of the Golden Gate Bridge. This all star band will be paying tribute to the legendary 60's band Quicksilver Messenger Service, performing such songs at "Who Do You Love", "Pride of Man", „What About Me", "Dino's Song", "Fresh Air", "Mona", and more. This special show also features Jefferson Starship (with Jefferson Airplane founders Marty Balin & Paul Kantner and special guests) and local favorites Vinyl. Wavy Gravy will MC. A special dance performance by Estara and a world class multimedia light show!

A portion of the proceeds will be donated to the McGinnis Skate Park in San Rafael.

JUST ANNOUNCED ˆ SPECIAL GUEST PERFORMERS! David Frieberg (Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jefferson Starship), Greg Elmore (Quicksilver Messenger Service), Kathi McDonald (Big Brother & The Holding Company, Ike & Tina Turner), Signe Anderson (Jefferson Airplane), China (daughter of Grace Slick & Paul Kantner) Kantner, Jose Najera (David Grisman, Babatunde, Merl Saunders) Darby Gould (Jefferson Starship) and other surprises!

For ticket information, see the concert poster at:

http://www.vinylgroove.com/images/SKATEPeacePoster150dpi.jpg

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Steve - Now click on "Silent Steve"

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/Testpg4.html

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: The Village
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Mark, you may try the Newark Airport and take the Path in, or just grab the bus from there. Bring a friend and Crash here if ya wanna' save the big bucks. The Lady Reverend is comming to town to either kill me or bless me with eternal life around that time, so it may be a soap opera in progress, but hey; in any event WELCOME. You can get to the 4th Street Station from everywhere. Give Nik as buzz; we can all Drink For Peace. Hey Hammond: on that bio, remember that Im' whats wrong with this country...(least we forget)...

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Protesting pays off. We protested budget cuts to the residents' evening snacks at the nursing home, which was gross, eating snacks was a simple and enjoyable activity and they need the nutrition. A whole bunch of aides put in our 2 cents worth. It actually worked, the good snack foods came back. It feels so cold out today, around 30 degrees. A few weeks ago 30 degrees would have felt like a heat wave. Anyways there are buds and the beginning of leaves of the trees and bushes, boy am I ready for spring and summer. Peace

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Steve,

I may be coming to NYC on the weekend of the 12/13 to attend the anti-war rally. Let me know if you want to get together, I can't get arrested though, gotta be back in California by Monday evening. Looks like at this point I will be coming alone unless I can shake some money out of a tree. At any rate is it better to fly into LaGuardia or JFK?

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Hammond;...more bile??...ah..Bio??? Sure,..lets see....Founding Father and Spokesperson" of Mutes For Peace, self-styled Traitor, Peace Church Sexton, Artist in Residence, Board of Trustee member, Homeless Task Force member, Out Reach Ministries member, Martha's Kitchen food coordinator, guiding light of the Up-Against-The Altar-Mother Fucker Project (on going, work in progress)...Sole Proprietor of the on-again-off-again branch of the 21st Century New York City Diggers supported and supporting the Washington Square United Methodist Church, Soul Child of Eileen Ewing, Hashish Hound, matrimonial adventurer and explorer of the occult regions. (among other things.)

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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ACHTUNG!!...if any one gets an Email from "Me" (Steve Boyd or Silent Steve).. DO NOT OPEN IT. But if you do, ..do not buy any of the horse-shit. I only return (answer) Emails. I do not send first. Got That??? Also...the fuck-offs who stir the honey on this site have been silent..(bad sign)...there are also some "Game-Players" who have hit the FFOR page. These folks do not have real lives, so the make do. Creepy aint it???

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Steve - Thanks mate, I am glad you like the layout and text on your 3rd Page - Vinceremos Mutes For Peace (you traitors!) - Bio statement - now just a litle more on YOU! - at Peace Church / in NYC - and a url link to the church or your favorite motorcycle repair shop okay?

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Mark - Steve - Hummm...... anarchists on the loose with your address' beware! Thanks for the spelling JAG - Here is the link again with correction and a new link at the bottom of the page - Click DIGGERS NYC

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mutes.html

Cheers, H.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Mark - Steve - Hummm...... anarchists on the loose with your address' beware! Thanks for the spelling JAG - Here is the link again with correction and a new link at the bottom of the page - Click DIGGERS NYC

Cheers, H.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

Sorry that message posted to Nicole was for you about the mysterious email. I didn't send anything and I didn't send anything from Planet Drum either. I ran a virus scan and nothing came up.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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And the winner is "Paparazzi" (accordding to my MS Word spell check)

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentstevboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Hammond; I didnt send anything. Ive' blown away all of my Email contacts and only resend to folks who write to me first; then I blow everything away again. Been getting alot of Digger inquiries from Germany but they are not in English. (???!!!) Hey Joe, big doin's over here at the Peace Church tonight at 6:00 p.m. Check it out. Hey Nik; thanks, and all of my best to you and the boys in the "Band". P.S. Hey Hammond; my Bio???...ahhh...Benign I hope!!! Just put that I graduated from the Olema Ranch Fool's school with flying colors, class of '70'. (End of the World Mob.) Full-fledged "J.D" (Juvinile Delinquint/Junior Digger) Hey, nice job stringing together the train of thought. You are one hell of a word Smith. Still trying to find time to pick up your' book again.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Nicole,

I didn't send you anything from my home or Planet Drum yesterday. I was at Planet Drum on Thursday but didn't send any emails that day. I will rerun my virus scan and see if I can figure it out.

Name: FYI  Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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The Bechtel Haliburton Bout

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2003/03/29/BU245605.DTL

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Thanks Nic - I look forward to the changes!

Does anyone know how to spell 'paparazi' correctly?

Steve and Mark - did you each send me an e-mail yesterday? Mark's was with out subject from planetdrum and Steve's was labeled "Congratulations." - They were both picked up by my virus catcher so I had to dump them without reading the infections. Let me know if you actually send these - if not some log-brain is using your address book for virtually vile purposes.

FYI - and prayers - New to The 3rd Page

"The Deadly Mirhab" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/eden.html

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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I'm up here in Saugerties on the river...it's beautiful, grey and misty slight rain, swans gliding, trees budding, one quiet fly fisher casting from his row boat...peaceful. Going into woodstock to play music at 2:00 and back to the city this evening...

Loved the pics of you Steve...I'm so proud to have you representing...

...in regard to "women did all the work" I believe that everyone did equal parts at different times...some times words are what is needed and sometimes it's plain ol' elbow grease, sometimes brainstorming but ALWAYS men and women contributing what ever it is they can and are willing to at any given moment...balance...yin and yang...positive negitive...working, standing still, talking, being silent...men & women. Warm regards to all, Nik

ps. Hammond, I will e to you a small bio and I also edited my piece just slightly and will send it as well...

Eileen are you in the islands yet?

Name: Tom Diaz
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 30 Mar 2003

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Orchestra Baobab http://www.orchestrabaobab.com

Name: Tom Diaz
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Re Turning over in my grave.. “The digger men have been playing with their lavoliers since '66. The women always did do all the work, all the men ever did was talk. Blah Blah Blah.”

**

In 1967 at Tolstoy Farm I worked very hard. Working at Morningstar was difficult. In 1968 I decided to go back into the money community and since 1968 I have been working very physically outside in all types of weather on the Ohio River. My head and mind stayed at the place that I learned to be, at; Morningstar. I have lived in the/that moment and the space provided by life. I did that until my body said quit in 1998. About that time I started to write knowing that I had to continue to work, moving forward with my body not wanting to pound the earth anymore.

I understand statement above but is does not apply to me. Work lets me see the sun, lets me be.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diggers

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Mutes For Peace
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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ACHTUNG New Yorkers. M27 Coalition Meeting: Sunday March 30th Washington Square Peace Church 135 West 4th Street, between Wash. Sq. Park and 6th Ave. refer to m27 web site for agenda.

Name: ?????
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Is that the (truthful) voice of Eileen?

Name: Turning over in my grave
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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The digger men have been playing with their lavoliers since '66. The women always did do all the work, all the men ever did was talk. Blah Blah Blah.

Name: THE 3RD PAGE
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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THANKS MARK and STEVE -

"Mutes For Peace" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/Testpg4.html

Then click on "MUTE FORCE!"

 

 

 

 

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Great picture!! And thank-you Mark, I can never figure out anything except a direct link.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Steve,

That is a fucking great picture! Here is a link directly to it. Check it out.

 

http://f15.nycimc.org/gallery/album29/mutesforpeace

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: I left it in the street
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Thanks for the honor Hammond. Hey, if ya do wanna' tag on a photo of the founding father of Mutes For Peace; check out http://www.indymedia.org/ under Indymedia Coverage, just click onto New York City. Im' blazing like a silver moon in the Gallery which is fronted by the Cop on horseback. Click him to open the gallery. Again,...thanks for the support.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Steve - Wrong!

Here is the working link -

"Mutes For Peace" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/Testpg4.html

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Steve - Click on your reverse radiation icon in this section: And let me know....

"Mutes For Peace!" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/Testps4.html

AsEver -

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Hammond, Cheeny's relation to Haliburton is well-documented, his multi-million dollar severance package so he could accept the VP was also a slap in the mug to all Americans who expected an unjaundiced approach to business by this adminstration as for proving his energy commision's ties to all of the above, the fact that he refuse's to release it's participants and has successfuly quashed any and all attempt's at forceful disclosure is proof enough that he has much to hide. He needed a Supreme Court ruling to accomplish it while we were all "distracted" by the impending war.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Steve - Perfecto (and further notes are welcome) - I will create a 3rd Page from all of your notes regarding Mutes For Peace - ending with how "The Mutes For Peace thing bombed out" and post the link tomorrow sometime. Are there any web links that might apply or and .jpg photos of you at the scene?

Gouge - How would you like your name listed in The 3rd Page - Alias Gouge or Paul Gouge?

Nicole (Gouge and Steve) - Please send me (individual e-mail) a brief bio statement I can attach to your names in the index of contributors.

Nic - any links to your music would be perfecto!

Once I am ready to launch Vol 2 (end of next week or before) I will send all contributors the link and any changes or additions can easily be made. Thanks to all 3 of you for participating!

Name:
EmailAddress: Hai Ku'ed
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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A twig, a leaf, a drop of dew, sunlight glistening, life anew

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: "Traiter" Vic's
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Au...well Hammond, the Mutes For Peace was a spur of the moment thing to basically cover my ass in reference to Police Brutality. I was filmed by both sides (Press and Cops) before, during and after my arrest, and made it very clear that I was pretty fucked up.I had the misfortune to lay down in the street next to a cat who's sign said: "Your Silence Is Killing Us". It was the same type of brown tombstone sign with white letters as my sign. (both being painted at the same Wash. Sq. Church rally)..aint it the way?..talk about coincidences. Basically, the M.F.P.'s (Me) was a one-man cell. (impossible to infiltrate) and I guess the mottos would be: "Actions speak louder than words", "Find A Voice", Say It Loud" and my favorite: "Shut Up" (Thanks Little Richard)...maybe I could broaden the appeal and make it less exclusive by welcoming Mimes into the fold. I keep seeing photos of folks who were on both sides of me, but I turned off the paparatzi by continually pointing to the hole in my neck with my middle finger. Thats what pissed the cops off. Hey, a big Hello to Melisa of the War Resisters League. Later Hammond. Hey, drop in any time. "MUTES FOR PEACE"

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Tragedy (today) in war - what else is there?

"The Deadly Mihrab" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mir.html

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: stormy weather
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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The news from Iraq is so awful and will prove to some people that this war just had to be, while showing all these deaths that, pure and simple, would not be happening without a war. And now there will never be a way to know, historically, what the world would have been like without this war. On the "homefront," my own homefront is very unsettled as I wait for the hepatitis C re-test results, I want to get that phonecall and then I don't. So......another Haight Street comfort memory, the Guruda. A second-floor or loft coffee house with tapestry wall-hangings and sitar music, what a place to trip.......... And Thanksgiving day 1969(?) watching Foghorn Leghorn cartoons, laying on cushions I think, at the Straight Theater. Peace

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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And don't forget the Guardian! http://www.guardian.co.uk/

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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JAG - The H Contract for putting out the oil wells in Iraq was blatantly signed and delivered (without an open bidding process) about 3 weeks ago. Cheney was once the VP - and made millions on his stock options when he wasn't elected along with Bush. These are some of the guys who were with Dickman at the White House discussing the future concepts of the US "Energy Plan" - but I can't prove this - well, because the court rulled that Dicky didn't have to release the names of the Dick-like greedy ceo's who were being wined and dinned somewhere near the Oval Office. There were a few other contracts handed out to other nepotistic-polictico-smerf-ceos at the same time Haliburt. got their share of the "reconstruction project" under theis administration's ideo-illiogical plan to rebuild Iraq as "the first free - democratic state in the Middle East" and smack dab in the middle of more trouble with Iran - Syria and who knows where it goes when ultra-faith-based maniacs and a blathermouth like our Defense Minister of Really Dangerous Statements are at the helm of Spaceship Earth.

Accurate news is only available from the foreign press - and even then you have to read between the lines

Suggested News Web Sites:

BBC World News (realplayer news every hour) Reuters beaking news antiwar.com Sidney Morning Herald

 

 

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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"Homeland" security?, Lets see, Hitler called it the "Fatherland", Stalin called it the "Motherland", any one see a pattern here?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Halliburton Handed No-Bid Iraqi Oil Firefighting Contract You still believe this war is about nothing more then WMD's? I wonder how many other of Bush and Cheney's friends are benefiting from this war? The US government didn't even bother to give other companies a chance to bid for this contract. While on the topic of WMD's you might want to check out this, about the lack of skepticism when it comes to the media making claims for weapons in Iraq. Remember Fox and their claim of a "HUGE" chemical weapons stash? How are we to get accurate news on this war if the journalist's we rely on are nothing more then puppets for this administration?

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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Steve, in moments you crack me up like no one else on the planet! "Mutes For Peace!" - is a stone keeper mate. The 3rd Page wants to print a Broadside for your mute brigade so please e-mail me the Steveistic details (using the notes below as well) and I will create a 3rd Page for you in the section I am calling "War(d) Reports" (in the soon to be released Vol. 2 of my joural) - RSVP

Draft Page Click Here

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/Testpg5.html

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Traitors NYC
Date: 29 Mar 2003

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The Mutes For Peace thing bombed out. I only met one mute besides me and he's an anti-French Republican. No offence ladies,...but In as much as only female Diggers have expressed outrage on whats getting piped up our asses, I have concluded that Digger men are all either out in the woods scrapping moss, tending rose gardens, or saving an endangered dust mite. That being said Im' dumping the banner and starting the Traitors of NYC. Remember what those are??..George Washington,..Thom. Jefferson,..you know; Traitors. Im' getting balls deep in the movement and will only comment on what comes down after the fact. Its gonna get wild in the streets.See ya' in the funny papers. Peace on you. Keep the beads baby. P.S. Hey, you all out giving Karate lessons and sippin' espresso with your accountants or what?? Where the fuck are the Olema People????

Name: Lily Pond
EmailAddress: justlilypond@hotmail.com
Date: 28 Mar 2003

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Oh! Thanks, Eric — guess I missed that. I’ll check it out.

By the way, does anyone remember the exact address on Willard? It was below Carl, wasn’t it? What about everyone’s names who lived there? I remember three women from the top floor, one was tall, one short, and one in between! All had dark hair. I can picture them, and even their rooms, but not their names.

Lily

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

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Hey Hammond, had a great time and was thouroughly impressed with your acumen concerning our old haunts, will stay in touch and would enjoy a reunion with my So Cal brethren, Nichole et al.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole - Dig this - Asking you about Phil set me on a broader search and I sent out a few e-mails to old friends still in the LA music set - and working for Rhino. I struck gold! Apparently Phil doesn't have a telephone much less a computer but my friend at Rhino says his buddy is in touch with Phil and he sent me the buddies e-mail address. So - tomorrow I will contact him and hope to get in touch via carrier pidgeon or something with "wizard." Amazing worlds we live in eh? And - I just had lunch with JAG who is a marvelus guy and not a bad snooker player either . He beat me soundly both games. He is one of us Orange County survivors Nicole - right out of the old melting pot. When you come our way this summer we should all get together.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

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Hi guys getting ready to go for the week end...upstate...actually playing a benefit for a sick friend (one of woodstocks long time bartenders and now the manager of bearsville studio, Jimmy Barlow) with Levon Helm and a good crew of folks trying to help him out with bills...so I'll read you all on Monday...

By the way... My first real R&R show was at the Long Beach Civic Auditorium, Ike and Tina Turner, Buffalo Springfield and Airplane...it was awsome and bizarre when years later I was involved with most of those folks...I guess there was some kind of destiny thing happening there...and of course here too with all of us. With REALLY Warm Regards, Your old pal, Nik

 

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

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Lily Pond --

There are two different video clips on that page. Scroll to the bottom and you will see the "Free Poetry Bust" clip. It shows Ama wearing the American Flag, and then at the end of the clip he gets busted. You can download these clips (there are low-bandwidth and high-bandwidth versions) from links on that page.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, I'm free now through Monday AM, call and we'll figure were then

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

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JAG - Hummmm...... We ran the same run around the same crowd it seems. What is your day like today or tomorrow for a meet somewhere in the middle? - I will call you early afternoon -

 

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

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Hammond, the Shrine was de-riguer for the Sunset scene, I got backstage so to speak occasionaly, got to meet Jeff Beck for a while, and his sound crew, the light show people I only saw on their scaffolding but they seemed pretty "content" and yeah, Cream, and especially Baker, were so zoned every time I saw them I knew they were all tweeking between sets. I found the meth scene their as well.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Ah - memories - Does anyone remember (what a stupid question) the LSD (Light Sound Dimension) in SF (at Sacramento and Polk)? Bill Ham and friends put on a great little deal for a brief moment in time time-space continuum here. Very trippy all the way around with matresses on the floor.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG - (The Shrine) As usual at the time - I was there - and usually backstage (well, there wasn't much of a "backstage area" but that is where I usually wound up being friends with the wacky light show crew (who I met through my other wacky light show friends at The Chetah in Venice) At the Shrine I saw all of the Who shows - with Arthur Brown' s flaming headgear, Traffic, the orig. Mothers of Invention numerous times (eg) and met Clapton, Bruce and Baker (Cream) when the played. Man was Ginger Baker ever a hard baked case! I was (ahem - at the time) known around Hollywood/LA as "a righteous speed freak acid head" and thought I was well heeled to the diverse set - but standing next to Baker's towering skeletal frame looking into his 60 yard stare really freaked me out. He was exceptionally eerie.........

 

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole - "Wizard" - how did I know you would know! Yes - that is my old mate Phil. I met him via his psychiatrist father who doled out Sandoz ampules to my friend "Jimmy the Clerk ." I remember sitting with Phili one night and he related a story from the night before. A sweet young thing had come to Phil's after having dropped her first dose and wanted Phil to be her "guide." Sort of like asking Svengali to hold your wallet but nonetheless. Phil said sure - but then after she came on strong Phil said he had to leave her alone for awhile. She sort of freaked at the idea of being alone so Phil gave her an emergency phone number to call if she got into trouble and left (for 6 hours!)and when he got back she was gone. I asked him what number he gave her in case of emergency and he had given her the number that connected to: "At the sound of the beep the time is.......(whatever)"

That was Phil in a brief nutshell.

Any ideas on how to find him?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Eric, when our leaders resort to "Bringing Democracy" to the un-enlightened people of the mid-east it smacks of the "White Mans Burden" of Christianizing the indigenous peoples of the world in the 18th and 19th centuries, a self serving ploy for a land grab.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

This is off main topic but Hammond, Nichole, did either of you get to the Shrine Auditorium in its hey day, it was the site of the best music in all of So Cal for awhile, total music environmet, huge light show, Cream, Zappa, Airplane, Pink Floyd, Quicksilver, etc, etc, etc, it was a perfect locale for tripping.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Lilypond. I lived on the corner of Fredrick and Ashbury and remember that corner store as well ...not too far. while reading your post I could actually feel the fog in the air at the mouth of the park on stanyan st...I know that these memories we are all having must have a healing affect on what all of us must be experiencing due to the current world situation...so please everyone...send some more.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Yeah, the unicorn sounds familiar...and I think the Prison was in newport...there was a guy we called the "wizard" who sounds like your description of Phil...this guy was just slightly older than us and we were eager to hear all of his ideas...I spent alot of time with a group of song writers who had some kind of a deal with Capitol records...all lived at the beach...I think I might be colliding two separate times periods together...yes, the fog...I think this must be good exercise for the brain though...really making it work...Do either of you remember an all night diner called Bel Isle's ? We used to take acid at the beach and on the wind down or the wind up go there for breakfast...

Name: Lily Pond
EmailAddress: justlilypond@hotmail.com
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Nice comments — thanks! Neat to see that video. There were a number of city hall steps readings, and that one doesn’t appear to be the american flag one. Also, it mostly looked like city hall folk rather than free city folk, so I must have gone to one or two others....

Hmmm — I think the little market was on the corner of either Willard or Stanyan and Frederick. Too bad that house got torn down!

Lily

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, the Unicorn sounds familar, but for some reason I connect it to Huntington Beach, there were a couple of Psych shops right on Hwy 101 next to Jack's Surf Shop, and the Unicorn was near their,(I think). I spent a lot of time in HB but 35 years fogs the memory, that and a lot of mind altering substance's. Did'nt spend an inordinate amount of time in Newport or Balboa, HB was so much closer to me.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

"We are facing the extinction of American democracy" -- Mark Crispin Miller, on KPFA this morning, commenting on various trends in our society. Mentioned Supreme Court Justice Scalia's belief that the emergence of democracy has obscured the Truth of God working through our national leaders! Mentioned that the new electronic voting machines are sinister and can be easily manipulated, and are all manufactured by big Republican-contributing corporations! Mentioned that he thinks it's entirely possible that the 2004 elections will be postponed!

He's a professor at NYU, his book is The Bush Dyslexicon.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole - Our Coffee House exchange the other day has my brain spinning. Where was the Prison of Socrates excactly? And what was the name of that little club at the very end of Balboa Peninsula? - just before Avenue A I think (was it The Unicorn?) And speaking of that area of Newport did you know a guy named Phil Pearlman? He was tall, an intellectually wacky acid head, had long, long hair and wore granny glassed - looking much like Chet Helms. He was the son of a local psychiatrist and lived on Ave. B as I remember - a little psychedelic love shack wired for sound. Ring any bells? JAG?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: young republicans
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, you finally made the evening news around here! They buried the story all day and "saved" it for dinnertime. There trying to charge the Portland protesters with terrorism as well, un-fucking believeable!

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, NY was on CNN to such a degree that I was sure hoping you'd be on the website not in the slammer tonight!! Seems they've got alot of people to process.... During the day CNN (headline) showed short clips of the die-in, shortened to the point of violence-only, like when a movie is edited down so much that all its violence looks gratuitous. In the evening on (regular) CNN they had a lengthier piece, also talked about a church meeting, and an interview with Daniel Ellsworth. What a treat to see a human being thinking so fast and so clearly.

Lily Pond, a grocer who ran a tiny grocery with his wife, an Oriental man, used to give me "throw-away" fruit, I can clearly picture walking out into the soft black night with a box of loose grapes, looking back at the yellow light through the door of the grocery. It was the same part of Haight St., I wonder if it was the same store? That grocer saved me from a diet consisting largely of speed and orange soda, I've always remembered his for-real generosity. Was that the dented-can store where you could buy cans the label had been lost from, and it was really cheap and always a surprise to open the can? It was downtown or something, someone took me there once, a food warehouse before the idea was as widespread as today. Peace

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Duu..
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey, his name is Kim Walter. Any way, from what Ive' seen, the little go around this mourning is drawing alot of Jewish heat by a protest that took place a little later a few blocks down 5th Ave. from where I got busted. In jail I saw a few folks with the phony blood on em' but didnt know what to think. I thought that it was Iodine or antiseptic. One kid had a bandaged head from where a cop tried to make him eat his own camera. Anyway, Im' gonna get some sleep. Maybe do again on Friday.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

Right on, you all made CNN. It is on their website tonight. Latest out here is Willie Brown, SF Mayor says he may sue ANSWER for 12 million bucks for the costs incurred by the city during the protests. I also was told that AssCroft wants to prosecute the NYC protesters for sedition based on the premise that they hampered the efforts of Homeland Security to protect NYC from terrorists. Fucking insanity.

I just finished watching Wes "Scoop' Nisker's performance at the Cayuga Vault replayed on community TV in Santa Cruz. Remember him all you old SF folks? "If you don't like the news, go out and make some of your own." A great show. Saturday Night live has been using that format for the "weekend update" for decades. He did a updated "Swami from Miami" thang too.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: home
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey I just checked out the http://www.m27coalition.org and it seems that the process is taking all night. I was one of a dozen who got out by 8:00 PM; because I was one of the first to get busted. Ouch!...anyway, True; they did deny me our lawyer, but I printed my name on a slab of balogna (with a mustard packet) and had a cat relay that to the defense team over a pay phone. The "Right to remain silent" was a moot point, and I didnt really know what charges were brought against me until I was free. At the rate that it was going, those folks will be there till dawn. Later.

Name: Alister Cameron
EmailAddress: alister@cameron.not
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

In Australia, a digger is a soldier.

What with Iraq and all that, I thought you might be interested to know that.

<a href="http://alister.cameron.name">Alister Cameron</a>

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: home again home again gigitty gig
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Yep Joe; balogna sandwiches. One piss call in twelve hrs. I mimed that I was gonna piss in the trash barrel and a Detective authorized me to use paper cups. I filled six tall ones. The shy types passed. Hey, one house wife was busted. Said that she couldnt just stand by while this shit comes down. Also two young Rappers who wanted to goof on the Peace Creeps. I made some good friends with the M27 crowd. There were some oldies there also. Thanks go out to a solid cat named Kim Henry from Queens.

Name: etheric
EmailAddress: other worldly
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve -- it works to clog up the system. Only so much energy to go around. Glad you survived the ordeal. & now - on to the future - Sinclair Lewis & Ida Mae Tarbell, we have only begun to fight !

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Mutes For Peace NYC
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

So there I was, lying on my back in the center of the 49thSt/5th Ave. Intersection,..watching four helicopters hover overhead like vultures. The first wave was arrested for just writting on the side walk with chalk. I was handled with kid gloves due to my scars and I mimed that I had a bum shoulder. I was among 4 men and 11 women..well...if you could two teenie-boppers 14 & 15)...who were the first to get roped. We were transfered to buses on the West Side, then hauled down. We were held for 12 hrs and fingerprinted on the state of the art machines. (Palm print etc) Out of the 150 in the holding tank at the Center St. local, I was the only one that actually looked "Disorderly". Cops kept asking me if I had gotten shot. One said; "You Got A Hole In Your' Neck!...anyway, I was the onlyone who they asked: "Are you a gang member"(?!!)...I heard trhat one of the cop buses broak down in midtown and cused more of a jamb-up than the Demonstration. (Aint it the way??)..The whole gang will regroup..(I wonder where)..he, he, he...

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Ya, they busted 150 or more

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

I guess Steve is having balogna sandwich cuisine tonight.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

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Lily Pond,

That was a beautiful message. I have a snippet of the digger film Nowsreal online here showing the poetry reading that you mentioned on the steps of City Hall (which the Chronicle called the Poetry Bust):

http://www.diggers.org/freepoetry.htm

Name: Mc Wot izit ?
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Beautiful.

Like listening to "It's a Beautiful Day" 's first album .. can almost smell the patchouli .. damn I miss those days ! we were so in tune at one time

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

"In the Protection of Peace"

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/warface.html

Name: Mc Wot izit ?
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

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Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG - Funny contrasts because I also quit driving, Talk to you tomorrow over the land line.

Name: karen
EmailAddress: yeah
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

I remember living on a houseboat, on Portage Bay in '79 and everyone crowded onto the dock and into the house to share dinner and an evening with Buckminster Fuller; he was pretty hard of hearing by then, but someone would ask him a question; and he would answer it so completely that no one could say anything for several minutes afterward. There was a blue and gold macaw listening in on the whole evening; the next day, that bird was repeating samples of conversations and then after whole paragraphs of words; she'd throw her head back to laugh a jolly belly laugh like a human being! Bucky had made a very BIG impression on everyone!

Name: karen
EmailAddress: bluefawn@roclisland.com
Date: 27 Mar 2003

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Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

I hear you Hammond but I like back ground when I drive and it beats Howard Stern! Really they are radical left, eclectic, ethnic and diverse. 90.7 on your dial:

Name: Lily Pond
EmailAddress: justlilypond@hotmail.com
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

I lived in the Free City house on Willard Street in the Spring of 1968. I ended up there because several people I had known in Detroit were staying there. David Savage was one of them.

While there I met David Lloyd-Jones who was transcribing a Buckminster Fuller (a guy he had known growing up, if I recall correctly) lecture to be mimeographed in the free city basement for distribution.

I remember sitting on pillows around the huge dining room table stuffing Brautigan’s seed packets. I remember dining each evening on a donated whale (wow — long time ago, eh?) from the freezer.

I remember going to Canned Foods with Paula, and getting “throw-away” fruit from the little grocer on the corner. I remember Hilda’s (was that her name?) familia, eaten with milk and honey for breakfast.

I remember being joined by my friend Mark who was also from michigan and he ended up going to Black Bear to live and I never saw him again. I still have photos somewhere of him helping paint trashcans purple to put in Golden Gate Park.

I remember the women’s rooms upstairs, Judy? Was it? And two other women who sometimes I can remember their names and right now I can’t.

I remember thinking the upstairs was the women’s part and the basement was the men’s part and the basement was more interesting, printing 1% free cards, and stuff like that.

I remember sitting on the steps of city hall while peter coyote read letters from friends in hawaii who had trees growing right through their houses; this was a protest day because someone had been arrested for wearing an american flag so a lot of people were wearing american flags on the city hall steps that day.

I ended up moving over to stanyan where peter also lived; that’s where I saw on tv johnson give his “I will not seek, and I shall not accept” speech.

I remember kirby doyle and his son. I remember tasting zuchinni for the first time. I remember the heady smell of euchalyptus, and the sea breeze, and that kitchen, and I am almost transported again.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG - I think I quit listening to radio in 1969

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Thanks for the post on the NYC demonstrations, its the only thing I've seen or heard on the subject.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, have you been listening to KBOO radio here in town? They are the only station locally or other that has nailed the war coverage. They have had interviews with the human shields in Baghdad and have totally raked the Bush regime since the outset!

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Dreams and Hope -

This is what the future is truely made of.... and praying that war is a but a transient nightmare

Peace to all.........

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

arrrrrghh. why is that coming up on the Post articles? it doesn't on my machine...just put something in the boxes & it'll come up....

Name: gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36682-2003Mar27.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37026-2003Mar27.html

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2003/mar/27/032703841.html

just a little on NYC demos

 

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Have yet to hear of the NY demostrations, just like the media to bury it some where and make the interntional media be the only ones to give it any air play, I am so freaking sick of seeing human interest coverage and fucking fluff stories that I'm ready to fling the remote through the screen!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

I have come across some more interesting things I'd like to post and some of my own today but I am out the door, on the highway to SF and Planet Drum to do my duty. Back tonight, this discussion the last couple of days has helped me get my head back. It helps to remember the roots of all this.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

My friend Martin Carey, the artist who drew the Mandala for the original digger papers lives in woodstock with his wife Susan and I know they bought the house together with Paul Krassner...But I never had the pleasure of meeting him...they still have the house there some 30 years now...

Mark, just read the interview...excellent, thank you...that's right heart to heart...start where you stand I always say.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, I am indeed in stump town USA, I did'nt know that was your locale, I'm in Milwaukie, I'd love to get together, I'll e-mail; John

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG - Your note about the Ken, Ken, and Paul Show at the Aladdin theater makes me wonder are you here in Portland, Or.? I thought you were in Maine! If you are here (is that a surreal tv program from the 50s?) - let's have a meet somewhere and see where we are.

Speaking of Krassner he has a new piece in the soon to be released 3rd Page Vol. 2

"The 10 Suggestions" - http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/krassner3.html

Mark - Ha! Yes - I remember when Jimmy first went to Hawaii - not long after I met up with him. He and his mates had by that time made their (ahem) sunshine start-up fund by making numerous trips to Afghanistan picking up kilos of (ahem) indigenous souvenirs for the hearts and minds back home. Once the scene began to receive way too much local and federal attention I began giving more and more time my aimless wanderings in LA sleeping in 24 hour Hollywood movie houses.

Name: Mc Wing Nut
EmailAddress: {off-planet}
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Whoever and wherever you are -- Don't Give Up the Fight [IMHO.]

But politics is the real arena .. time to get organized & throw out the bums in Washington. The real deal is elections in 2004 .. I'd say even throw in with the Dems if that's the only action going .. heard of Constitution Party ?, started in Hawaii (believe it or not) that might be worth looking into .. whatever, street action cannot be the be-all end-all .. you risk turning off the very folks, ordinary working stiffs, etc., we really need on our side. Think about it.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole,

I was there in July of 64 and I don't know how long he stayed there but I would think it would have been for awhile as he cared for his mother.

JAG,

I am with you on Dennis Miller, he is a full fledged idiot. He seems to wanna be a Lenny Bruce wanna be. He is awful, with terrible timing and the content of a hack. So long Dennis, hope you can find work somewhere.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Nichole, Mark , Hammond

Really enjoyed reminiscing I would bet our paths crossed at least a few times in those day's, like they say though "If you can remember the sixties you" I forget the rest.

Bush was just asked on TV if he would consider using nuclear weapons in Iraq and he obfuscated once again, left it open, the thought that he could even consider it is bone chilling indeed!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, the address is 1628 Riverside Dr. My sister Penny actually lived there for years around 62 to 67 untill she got her Tuluca lake house...she's a year older than me so she's 55, when was yr friend there? I'll try again...

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Good interview, I especially like his dig at Dennis Miller, I used to think he was insightful and provocative but now all I hear is acerbic and caustic, not even thought provoking just mean spirited, he hit bottom by being interviewed on "The O'Riley Factor" promoting the war. I saw Krasner at the Aladin theatre in Portland with Ken Kesey and Ken Babs, it was mostly Krasner though reading excerpts from a new book. He mentioned that most people think he played guitar for the Jefferson Airplane :)

 

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

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Nicole,

How close can it be? The apartment my friend Bruce Saunders lived in was on Riverside drive a block or so west of Victory Blvd. across from the end of Griffith Park.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole,

I just clicked on it and it worked for me. Try it again or go to www.buzzflash.com and search the interview archive for Feb. 18.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, I come up with a "non existant" message when trying to click on that...could you give me somewhere else to go to read it?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Here is a link to an recent interview with Paul Krassner I find interesting.

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/02/18_Krassner.html

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Like I feared last night mainstream media are ignoring any demonstrations in NYC or other cities and only reporting "war" news. Like 1000's protesting isn't war news, I have channel surfed the entire network cable and all and no mention yet, Its early, maybe it'll get picked up , good luck their.

Hammond I've got to give your tome a read I'm sure it will spark some memory or click on a few synapse's.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, I'm watching the coverage of the demo on tv in the office here...they said there's more police that demonstrators...but I thought it all looked pretty impressive myself...when I got off the train this morning here in mid town...cops on every corner...jeesh! btw, sorry I haven't been by, but I've been in bed by 8 o'clock every nite for weeks it seems...and getting to the office early every morning...I need to get a life...I am going to Florida on the 11th for 10 days though! hurray!

Mark,Hammond and Jag...bet we danced or tripped or surfed or sang or marched or did something together somewhere along the route...

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

RNA,

Rosemary Woodruff passed away from a heart attack on Feb 7, 2002. I didn't know her and it was a quiet passing. There were some mentions of it in the press but very little. She was attempting to archive Leary's stuff at the time and I was thinking of offering to help, I was working on similar stuff for the Bergs, but she passed before I got it together. I remember reading that someone else is or was working on an archive but I don't know who it is. Here is an SF Chronicle article.

Rosemary Woodruff -- LSD guru's ex-wife

Susan Sward, Chronicle Staff Writer Saturday, February 9, 2002

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Rosemary Woodruff, former wife of the late psychedelic guru Timothy Leary,

died Thursday in her home in Aptos at age 66.

Surrounded by friends, Ms. Woodruff died of complications from a heart attack she suffered a week earlier.

Born April 26, 1935, in St. Louis, she grew up in that city and dropped out of high school to marry an Air Force officer when she was 17. That marriage ended quickly, and she moved to New York in the 1950s.

She told friends later that it was there that she received her real education, living in the bohemian community of lower Manhattan that was populated by jazz musicians and artists.

In 1965, she met Leary, a former Harvard University psychology professor who was the host of weekend events where participants took LSD at a country estate in Millbrook, N.Y. Leary -- who coined the oft-quoted phrase "turn on, tune in, drop out" -- had been dismissed from the Harvard faculty in the early 1960s for his experiments with drugs.

Ms. Woodruff moved in with Leary and was co-host of the events, which were attended by numerous celebrities, psychologist R.D. Laing, actor Peter Fonda and artist Saul Steinberg. She became the third of Leary's four wives in 1967 at an event that the New York Times reported was directed by Ted Markland of "Bonanza."

Kate Coleman, a Berkeley author who wrote a recent profile of Ms. Woodruff, said, "Rosemary was known by the nickname 'Ro.' She was the epitome of hip and beauty. She knew everyone -- Yoko Ono and John Lennon. She kept in touch with Huxley when he was in L.A."

Coleman said Ms. Woodruff told her that she helped her husband escape in 1970 from a California state prison where he was serving a 10-year sentence for a marijuana conviction.

Ms. Woodruff told Coleman that she raised the funds that financed the escape, in which Leary made his way to a prison roof, traversed the prison grounds on a cable and then jumped to his freedom on a road outside the prison.

The Weathermen, a revolutionary youth group, helped Leary pull off the escape,

Coleman said.

The couple then made their way to Algeria, where they were given sanctuary for a while by Black Panther leader Eldridge Cleaver in his compound there.

The couple's marriage broke apart in the mid-1970s, and Ms. Woodruff traveled throughout Europe and Latin America before "living underground in Cape Cod for 14 years" because she still faced a pending drug charge in Laguna Beach and her former husband had told the FBI about her role in his escape, Coleman said. Leary himself was captured by authorities in Afghanistan in 1973 and remained in prison in California until he was released by Gov. Jerry Brown in 1976.

In 1994, authorities in Orange County dropped charges against Ms. Woodruff, and she surfaced in Half Moon Bay, where she ran a bed-and-breakfast establishment for five years until her health failed, Coleman said. Ms. Woodruff then moved to Aptos and gave some guest lectures at the University of California at Santa Cruz.

Leary died in 1996 of prostate cancer at the age of 75. In Leary's last months of life, Ms. Woodruff and her former husband were reconciled and she helped care for him, Coleman said.

Friends said plans have not yet been finalized for a memorial service.

 

 

Name: r n a
EmailAddress: Rosemary?
Date: 27 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, Rosemary died last year? what do you know? She endured so much: being under house arrest in Algiers, courtesy of Eldridge Cleaver. Eldridge later went on to gain fame for inventing the ballsy pants that had knitted pouches for men's genitals so the guys could let it all hang out and show their stuff while still legally clad. The prison escape, visiting her husband in prison, police busts, one while they were making love on some psychedelic. Leary came to Maui and spoke about how not only did the police barge in on them while they were making love, but they tied up Tim's legs with Rosemary's pants. It is not easy being the sould mate of radical and famous visionaries.

Name: The Monk
EmailAddress: West 4th Street
Date: 27 Mar 2003

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Oh Ya,..a word to the wise,..If ya do connect with Reverend Billy, tell him "Silent Steve Sent Me"..(but for god's sake; dont mention Walt Disney)..(wink, wink, nudge, nudge,)...

Name: Brother Boyd
EmailAddress: Ziggity-Hot-Damn
Date: 27 Mar 2003

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Hey,..living In a Church, as I do,..I cant help from being reminded of Religion from time to time,..and while pondering the variouse Saints and Sinners who Ive' come in contact with in this line of work; I just remembered a Charismatic Wild Cat Preacher who I met and shook hands with one night last year at a candle light rally, (I was passing out free candles)..anyway,... He had a Digger Smile and dollar Sign Eyes. His name was Reverend Billy. Check his act out. (But dont send money)...later. Silent Steve.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: No thanks,..Im' fine..
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey, did ya' check out thier "Go As A Group" program???...shit, I am a group. Well, good night folks,..I gotta get up early. Hmmm...better check my Horiscope. Hey, I saw a good one tonight: "Caution! Unexploded Civilian!" (think about it). Also: "OIL: THE NEXT TOBACCOO". Wow, what a hyped up mob tonight,..wonder what they all do in Peace Time,..Hmm.."Peace Time"??..lets see, I was born in 52'..Korea, the 50's..,..hmm..Vietnam,... early 60's to early 70's...Gulf War I in the early 9o's,...Gulf war II early 00's...the 80's???...Oh ya, DISCO!!!. Ah...am I making any sence???...and if so;..Scary, Aint It???....Bottom line: I guess these folks have had a full dance card. (when are they gonna get it right)...

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, your passing on some good jams man but I hear ya, music to soothe the savage breast isn't what you need right now, maybe some flak vests or serious head gear! Take care of your-self and don't be a dead hero or somthin like that!

Name: MUTES FOR PEACE
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Death Of Digger II: Birth Of,...(well, ..you be the judge of that)....Oh, and thanks for the tune offer, but save the campfire songs for the next Young Republican Jamboree,...Hey, Thanks Bob, but I feel secure hiding behind my handycap and gimp arm. But hey, lets take a vote: who thinks its about time that I got my hair parted down the middle??? Hey, they jump on my ass and youll'see some terror. Hell, my body is a weapon. Hep, once a big dude grabbed me by both legs and swung me like a club. Knocked a whole row of folks right off of their bar stools like dominoes. I was afterwards labled "A Good Sport". I was thankfull that it didnt catch on like Dwarf Tossing. Thats the kind of thing that ya' gotta sweat out when you hang around with big people. Kinda'make ya' cringe at the words "Batter Up!!"...But, hey, check it out!...ACHTUNG MOUSKETEERS!!! NO BUISNESS AS USUAL!!! Stop The War On Iraq!! Join an act of non-violent Civil Disobedience. MASSIVE DIE-IN Rockefeller Centre at 5th Ave. (around 50th St.) 8:00 AM Thursday 3-27 Legal Protest Alternative Pe-action meeting Wednesday Night. Location to be announced,..(Right here; right here; you aint' just a shittin')...For more Information & Newest/Latest---check out: http://www.m27coalition.org Now, back to Disney on Ice. (..Id'e like to see that)... But hey , no shit, I sailed around the defunked military Prison in the harbor up in New England where ol' Walt layed in this cell and dreamed of the Magic Kingdom,..no shit, the place was all granite and looked like a midevil Castle..I think that he was a consciencious objector or something. They also say that his dishonnorable discharge was proudly displayed on his office wall which was televised on his weekly show,..Go Figure???

Name: Mc Ming
EmailAddress: yet again
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve -- I know you gotta go when your heart says go .. but I would be remiss not to say I have grave misgivings about any action in Manhattan right now .. I'm afraid the junta in DC wants bad things to fuel their dirty little war .. stay home, man -- we need you here. OK ?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

New york is ripe for revolution from the sound of it, I hope the bastards don't silence the mass's by ignoring the action and reporting a "small disturbance" was quelled by patriotic forces in conjunction with local police. The media have it in their power to effectivly silence dissent by merely ignoring it. The louder the dissent the more they seem to downplay the event.

Silent Boyd be sure to duck!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG,

That area is still fairly the same as it was. The Rio Del Mar flats, as they are called, was pretty much built out by then. Aptos Village suffered some damage during the 1989 earthquake and lost some old buildings but the village itself hasn't changed much at all. The surrounding areas have attracted the wealthy and multimillion dollar "trophy" homes dot the hills and the beach hill area south of Rio Del Mar.

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, take care out there. You're a good man. But they're out to bust some skulls on the street, & I don't want yours to be one of them. For what it's worth, my thoughts are with you. Take care. Bob

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark I spent a week on that beach waiting for a check to be forwarded to general delivery at the local post office, we would walk about a quarter mile south toward the penisula, and camp so as not to be noticed by the local police, there was an overpass to highway 1 right where we camped. My friend lived up the canyon (ravine?) that highway 1 went over, we would trek up the canyon about a 1/2 mile and his house was on the right, we got shower privileges but the wife did'nt want our rabble their at night, new baby and all, we abided and all was well. Really is amazing how paths cross!

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Knotts Berry Farm
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Short notice; didnt think we could give em' the space,..the Rev gave his best stand up Ghandi, then left me "In Charge" of 500 luddites; abolitionists; union organizers and revolutionaries. In short: It was a Free Church tonight. They immediatly greeted the plain-clothes-men, then kicked out all of the Press. I had my Magna-Doodle and protested on behalf of a Village Voice Sweetie that I recognized. They all agreed that the Free Press could stay to support but not report. They then "Voted" to kick another group out and I wrote "Your Exclusivity turns me off", I then gave the whole gang the finger and walked. I did however return to help some freaks hang banners in the balcony. Bottom line?..looks like I may get arrested at the Rockefeller Plaza "Die In" tommarrow. (watch for my sign: "MUTES FOR PEACE"). Later. Now,..ah..could ya' please pass the "Jelly???"...P.S. No punches telegraphed here,..its all over the news and the cops are gearing up as I speak. (Should be a good one)..I rolled a bowling ball down the center line of Bowery one night,..but I cant recall ever playing dead in the street,..Hmmm...

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Far fucking out Hammond, I was only an infrequent visitor but indulged myself whenever their, what I liked was the fact that they sold nothing but psyshedelics and smoke, nothing bad for the soul, I had to find that in the barrios around my neighborhood when ever I needed to get down for real, and luckily I moved around enough that my habit was always on a part-time basis but even that took its toll. I spent most of my child hood on a beach and surfed a lot, long boards before the short shit took over, remember David Nieuva? Best long boarder I ever saw, shot the Huntington Beach Pier while on the nose! On a 10 ft. wave it was un freaking real, and also during the Duke Kahanamoko Surfing Contest, he won hands down. Long time ago, 1964 or so.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

I took many hits of orange sunshine. Good stuff. Some of those folks "migrated" to Maui around 68 or 69 and brought lots of it with them. Leary's ex-wife lived in Aptos in later years. She passed away last year.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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JAG,

Small world again. I live right there. I run on the beach on mornings when the tide is low right through the pier that goes out to the cement ship, which is now a fishing pier, at Seacliff and Rio Del Mar. I am about a quarter mile up from the beach.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG - Yeah that's the place - orig. Bluebird Canyon until the Brotherhood burned it down so to speak. I was in residence (as a weekend visitor )and then gone before Tim made the set his west coast stash bag. "Jimmy the Clerk" made the orange sunshine and he is still out and about the world (under alias) as are a number of other originals from those days though many have died - and a few are still on the lam (forever I am afraid). Just a bunch of surfers with too much acid on there hands....... great people.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, does Jim Hunt or Hunter ring a bell? Tall thin blond guy, married a local girl and I think thats why he moved up their. He had a friend who was in the army around 68 and they both were from Garden Grove, East Gate the same housing tract as me.

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: political
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

An excellent website for those of you concerned about peace & justice --

http://www.opendemocracy.net/home/index.jsp

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, a couple of high school friends moved there in 68 or so, and I visited them, I'll be damned if can remember their names right now, It'll come to me, but I remember a place called Rio Del Mar I believe right out of Aptos, we could see the Montteray Penisula from the beach and their was a shipwreck right on the beach a big cargo ship that was left right on the shore because no one wanted to spend the bucks to remove it, or so I was told. It was a pretty remote spot but had some really great people, I remember a woman who invited all of us beach bums to her house on the beach and we had a feast of fish head soup and home made bread and lots of vino, a good time was had by all.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: Back to the War
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, I know the war takes precedence, but hey! I've been in Portland for a long time and when ever I mention my roots all I get is blank stares, nostalgic reverie is good for the soul.

On another note, it sounds like your up to your neck in the Big Apple and I know this doesn't sound like much but I was wondering if you could use some free CD's of anti-war songs? I have a burner and I have a large collection of music, Dylan "Masters of War", "War What is it Good For?", Bruce Cockburn,"If I Had a Rocket Launcher", "Lives in the Balance" by Jackson Browne, etc. I could burn a selection and send as many copies as my burner can crank out and you could give them to selected groups to play or you could sell them or you could keep them whatever you wanted to do with them. Just let me know where to send them and I'll take care of the rest.Like I said I know it ain't much but at least I can feel like I'm participating vicariously. I can feel your energy from your posts and have nothing but respect for your efforts.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG,

Aptos is still a rather obscure burg. What was your connection here way back then?

Mark

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, I knew some people in Laguna Canyon, "The Brotherhood of Love" they were affiliated with Leary,and yea I had a headful of sunshine more than once. I didn't know it as Bluebird Canyon just Laguna Canyon, right on Laguna Canyon Road. The names were changed to protect the innocent, but there was C.A., Doc Swine, and a guy named Wayne but I'm pretty sure that was an alias. I also went to Golden West its first year and then I lost my 2S deferment, too much time in Laguna, and I wound up immigrating to Australia. Was'nt supposed to be able to get a passport because of my new found 1A status but some how was given one, Beauracratic screw-up? All I know is the first letter from home was from the selective service telling me I had a date with them and how the hell was I down there. I spent a year writing and getting extensions until they threatened to expatriate me. I came home because my mother was dying and I was homesick any way. Wound up with a 1Y because of hepatitis and the war was over for me.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole - Ah the Rendezvous Ballroom - what a great place for surf music - I saw DD & the Deltones there as well - the early days before LSD set in. I had forgotten all about The Prison Socrates! Went there a few times as well - but not The Inner Circle. To avoid the Hair-Measuring at Disneyland I used to buy my tickets at the Disneyland Hotel and then take the monorail into the park and by-pass the Disneyguards at the front gate. Did you ever see The Association there? Toluca Lake is another brief memory - maybe I got laid who knows. I was everywhere and nowhere at the sam time in those days it seems to me and I haven't been back to So. Cal since 1968. You and I have been in so many of the same joints I bobbles my mind.

JAG - Hummmmm..... I went to Golden Gate during its first 6 mo. of operation and than transfered to Orange Coast for another 6 mo. before the military wing caught up with my number. Perhaps you knew my friend Jimmy Otto ("Jimmy the Clerk" in my book) who lived in Laguna's Bluebird Canyon with a number of other now rather infamous people. Does the phrase: "orange sunshine" ring your bell?

Name: D-W-F-S-N-Y-C
EmailAddress: Free Church
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Lots of Press and Camera Crews here already...big and getting bigger,...the Rev. will give a speel about us being pacifist and non-violent to cover our asses. "Ya Dont Need A "Weatherman" To Know Which Way The Wind Blows" . P.S. Lots of interest and questions about the Digger Thang,..(sure wish that I could talk)....

Name: Diggers
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Ah...kids,...I ah... I hate to break the Fantasy Land Spell, but we just got several calls in reference to our connection with the NYC Anarchist who are planning to shut down the city. One Enraged "Methodist" said that our involvement was Un-Christian-like and criminal. (sounds like a Baptist)..anyway "They" threatened to call the press and "Report" us. Another fuit broght up the RICO act. Hmm..anyone "WE" know???...Keep ya posted, Film at Eleven. Now, back to Disney's wonderful World of ,...of...well,...you know what I mean.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Oh yeah the infamous hair inspection at Disneyland, did'nt all the Orange County people go to the "Spring Fling" one flat price and all rides included that was a trip.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: days of yore
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Hammond, I spent my entire childhood in Orange County, first in Buena Park, went to Catholic School right across the street from Knott's Berry Farm, Pope Pious the Fifth, then we moved to Garden Grove in 1959. I too went to Golden West Jr. College in 1967-68, between trips to the Haight, Aptos, and Big and Little Sur.

Nichole I spent lots of time in Huntington Beach, I only lived 7 miles from the pier, went to the psyche shops in Laguna and Huntington, also ate a lot of acid and hung out a beach in Laguna called Seal Island, (our name for it I don't know what the locals called it) It was a beautiful reclusive spot because it was ringed by private homes and we had to sneak down a cliff to get their, we got hassled every time we left by the local constabulary but they never once had the balls to scale the cliff and roust us, their were caves along the water front and at high tide we had to take refuge in them as the beach was engulfed by the tide. Had the best acid trip their in my life, phosphorous washs in with the tide periodically and at night would illuminate the waves and as you walked along the shoreline you could see your footprints glow at first I thought it was the psychedelics but since all of us were tripping on the same thing we finally figured it out.Wound up in cave looking out at seal island and listening to the seals bark while we threw glowing hand fuls of sand at each other. Those were carefree days and happy nights even with the police waiting for us when we emerged from our inner sanctum, they never amounted to more than a lite wait search and then on our way.

Name: Diggers / West Free Street, New York City
EmailAddress: Washington Square Free Church
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Setting up for a huge Anti-War Pow-Wow in 45 Minutes. Hey,...want answers to Bush's 12 Myths about Iraq???...check out http://www.internationalanswer.org

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

ah Mark, thanks for the ok, I needed that...and so more...My grandmother lived and still lives for that matter on Riverside Dr. just by Victory Blvd there...next to the park...and when I first moved back to CA, 1965-66, I lived around the corner and my sister was in Toluca Lake so we did plenty of "Barrelin' down the blvd" that being Colorado Blvd...you know lookin' for the heart of Saturday night...at Bob's Big Boy and also hung out at a place called the Odd House...I'm sooooooooooo sure that you, Hammond and I have crossed paths many times...all of us really, I mean again, it makes me believe there is a purpose to the patterns our path crossings have created... finally it's 5 and this work day is over...going out to hear some music tonite with my friend and unwind this cork-screwed day.......read yawl in the am...

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Nicole, more LA fluff. I had a good friend when I was 17 here in Santa Cruz named Bruce Saunders. This was around 1963 and 64. His mother was from that area and moved back to Glendale (Riverside Drive near the Golden State Freeway) from up here to be close to the UCLA Medical Center. She was suffering from cancer. I hooked up with him in Glendale after hitching down there. He was into VW's bigtime and we used to tool around in his 54 24 horsepower VW all over. We would hang out on the steps of Hollywood High waiting for school to let out meeting up with friends to play music (folk) and then cruise Colorado and Toluca Lake Bob's Bigboy at night. Innocent times. I lost track of Bruce after I came back to the Bay Area that summer. Sure would be great to find him again.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress: ps
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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...sorry for bringing up such fluff in the face of everything today...but it is giving me some comfort right now...plus...my job is stressing the hell out of me today...

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Hammond, btw did you ever go to the Rendezvous Ballroom in New port or Balboa? or the Retail Clerks Union Hall in anaheim? I saw Dick Dale there several times, then when the folk scene became more dominant in my life it was the Golden Bear or Prison of Socrates...I know you knew the GB but was curious about the others I mentioned. There was also a wild club (dancing and acid) called the Inner Circle...and of course before all that all of us Orange Co "heads" went to Disney Land's Tomorrow Land and danced to Kay Bell before they stopped letting our guys in because of long hair...can you imagine...

Name: FYI Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

For those concerned about current SSS Registration and the Draft

http://www.fcnl.org/issues/military-draft/sup/selective-service_130-03.htm

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

For just the title alone - this is worth the read.

'War is now just another arm of diplomacy' http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/mar/24inter.htm

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark - His name doesn't ring a bell - but I do remember a car with a peace symbol driving around the area. Barbers and Lawyers? I didn't have much use for either one in those daze!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

Did you know a character who hangs out around Aptos now named Michael Gerbosi? Taught High School in Laguna, was a barber and became a lawyer. He had a 57 Thunderbird with a leather tonnueau cover with a big peace symbol tooled into it.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG - What years were you in Orange County - Garden Grove? I lived in Laguna/Newport area in 66-67 - attending Golden West and Orange Coast Colleges - uh.... sort of - i.e my draft deferment vs. acual study before I moved to SF. Thanks for your great postings!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG,

Thanks for your proddings last night. The morning has improved the dark mood for now. The reaction to Michael Moore's speech at the Academy Awards has been stuck in my mind. The long view of amerikan society from this point is a little deflating. How we overcome the denial of the Right and the closeted Right, and take clear steps to accept responsibilty for creating a greedy, arrogant, violent, and morally bankrupt culture is a big task. This war is going to go on, the killing will go on, celebrated and ritualized for the God and Country sheep among us.

I think that this is still the diseased attempts to continue to re-fight the Viet Nam failure. We may go on fighting this ghost for decades searching for our honor and regain the "stature" that was lost. Creating and staging conflicts to fly the flag over, sing hymns, wallow in drama and mourning, parade our patriotism for all to see, all the while dining on the flesh of our victims, plundering the earths resources and oppressing those who even think of making a change. The cycle of violence is american, we dig it. Capitalism is a religion and the White House is it's temple.

Don't get me wrong, I will be hauling my ass out on the streets every week raising my one-fingered salute to these idiots.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Nichole,Pacifica High School, West Garden Grove, it is a small world, and thank you, yes we do know each other now, in 67 I could only wish I knew the "Haight Steet Elite" which I know ran counter to the concept of elite but non the less still existed. Peace, and to you as well Mc Mingus

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG, I got to San Francisco the spring of 67 myself and I got there from Orange Co. I went to school in Anaheim...I got involved with everyone pretty much after the main events happened in SF, although I attended those events, not as an organizing member...and we are the same age...that's why I asked. anyway, we know each other now.

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: between a river and a railroad
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Sharon .. wish I had an exact website to give you for your research, but if you don't know already, the 'SF Oracle' was one of the most central underground papers of the times (the late 60's) and it's been reprinted in full glorious color .. may still be available from Amazon or alibris .. worth looking for. Yous other guyz .. meant to mention earlier .. pushing 51 here, looks like we've got a lot of back history together .. though I feel old for my years, started hanging out with Antioch work-study students in DC when I was just 14 .. [what were my parents thinking .. duh .. oh they were proto-anarchist Christian leftists too..]

Name: Sharon
EmailAddress: sharon.crossman@vanderbilt.edu
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

I love your site. I am doing a research project for Graphic design history and we are doing it on the underground press. Although I was young in the 60's, my husband was very much a part of the 60's. I have always had a bit of a rebel in me and the thought of doing things because you believe in them rather than how much money you can make, has been a part of my inner soul. to Love others and let your voice be known. I am very undecided about the war that is taking place now. I don't really like war, and I don't want to see all the people in our country and others getting killed, but I do believe the people in Iraq should be able to have the freedoms we have, and if we were a part of putting Saddam in charge, then we do need to be a part of getting rid of him. My husband was in Nam, I can feel in my heart the pain they felt when they came (thank the Lord) back to the U.S. and was boo'ed and looked down on. If we didn't have men and women willing to fight for our freedoms and rights and our choices of how we live, we would be no better off than the Iraqs who live under fear of a government that gives us no freedom at all.

I don't like war, but what are we do, let him or others like him take control over me and you? Thanks for letting me go back in history and learn more and more about the times of the 60's and 70's.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Nichole, I don't think so, I did'nt get to the Haight until 67, I hung out in the pan handle and did meet some Diggers but was only a fringe participant. Went back to Orange County, So Cal, for college and then returned in 68, I only wish I had been more involved but college the draft and losing my 2s deferment put me in Sydney, Australia by the end of 68 and I stayed until early 70 so I missed a lot, some good, Woodstock, some bad, Altamont, some ugly, Manson.

 

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG, do I know you? You and Peter C. are the only people who spell my name right...with the "h" I dropped it eventually because no one else ever put it in. It is on my birth certificate, Nichole...and thanks for yr response to my question...yeah we think pretty much alike on the subject...That's why sometimes I think that our energy should go in that direction...not to try and figure it out so much as to simply contemplate it...appreciate it and trust in it...

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine Imagine...you may say I'm a dreamer...but I'm NOT THE ONLY ONE.

Name: Mc Ming
EmailAddress: read Herakleitos if you want the truth
Date: 26 Mar 2003

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Thanks for recent posts, Ohio Girl, Mark, JAG .. And indeed, constantly on my mind & audible here .. any version (BMW, Peter Tosh, whatever) 'Get Up, Stand Up' .. heard the original Wailers perform and jam on this tune at Georgetown U. in DC about 30 years ago ..for about 20 minutes .. simply said, one of the most memorable moments in a lifetime of music .. also, well said -- Leonard Cohen [to shift gears abruptly] almost anything of his, but especially 'The Future' & 'Democracy' .. whatever floats your boat .. but don't {DON'T!} give up the fight.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: 54 year old heart
Date: 26 Mar 2003

Comments

Well I turned 54 last Saturday, and my younger son sent me a Sympathy card to help ease the "immense pain." Ha ha, I believe I've raised some great kids. Velvet Underground, Leonard Cohen, the Doors, the dark side of being for-real, Robert Johnson, not being part of a videogame culture that maybe questions the war a little now because it seems to involve battles, what did they think would happen? Why has the price of gas gone down? I find that scary. There's some beautiful stuff on the Peace church website I hope it keeps on. Steve, Right On!

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

One last thing Mark, I've been listening to a lot of Marley lately and

Get up! Stand up! Don't give up the Fight!!

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: OZ
Date: 25 Mar 2003

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Mark; Take heart, it only seems as though indiference reigns, I have seen more people take to the street in a far shorter time than at the height of the Vietnam crisis. Globally their are millions, nationally their are far more than the meager estimates of mainstream war mongering media hacks. In the sixties it took well over 6 years of constant demonstrations to even began to be heard by the forces in power. Be aware that only a hard core inner circle of hate mongers and empire builders are responsible for this current atrocity. As long as they can dupe the general public they will prevail but I know in my 54 year old heart that they amount to nothing in the over all scheme of things and will be relegated to the dust bin of history as adversarial propagators of hate and obscene profits. Even Colin Powell knows this is bull shit and he's stuck in a nightmare of his own making. The cycle will come full circle and the truth will emerge from the debris of shattered dreams and broken souls that are bearing the brunt of evils hold over the hearts and minds of the planets downtrodden.

Bush is an anachronism, a relic, a moron, and, if he were'nt so painfully destroying us, a joke.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Let me preface this by saying my mood isn't good.

Given the 56 years I have experienced on this planet my view unfortunately has become seriously jaded. Those youthful dreams that still flutter in my heart on a warm California afternoon listening to that old Ford V8 hum the tune of white line freedom, these moments of clarity, so easily flushed out by Kerouac, driven on by J. Morrison, blooming from the heritage in Robert Johnson and up and through Jimmy Reed ache in my heart. It aches. The "evil doers" have wrestled the reins of power while the gorging boomers lay fat on their chenile couches touching lightly on two dimensional news, nodding on a shrieking media rush. Hate is the fragrance of favor. Are we done? Is it time to cut the losses and head for cover? The Viet Nam thang was bad but we had some of the media, we had democrats getting noisey, and we had the Diggers, the Weathermen, the Panthers, and we had Dylan. We seem to have only the pure heart of Michael Moore fighting like Quixote in the face of silence now. Amy Goodman is trying to fight her way to the frontlines, Pacifica radio fights on but it looks tonight like we are goners. What do you think?

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: steamed open and eye-balled
Date: 25 Mar 2003

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DEFEND LYNNE STEWART Wednesday, April 23rd, 7:30 pm Freedom Hall, 113 West 128th Street, NYC. Email: fsprw@nyc.net Website: http://www.socialism.com Hear movement attorney LYNNE STEWART talk about her own legal case. Last April, FBI agents arrested Stewart at her Brooklyn home. As they took her away in handcuffs, the FBI invaded and searched her Manhattan office. Her crime? Doing her job for the past 27 years as an outspoken criminal defense lawyer. Since 9/11 in the name of the "WAR ON TERRORISM," Stewart and others have been targeted on the basis of their political views. Find out how you can help her win her case. Also bring your ideas to the open siscussion on what can be done to stop the attacks on all civil liberties. Hey, for a $6 donation, you will recieve a hearty supper served at 7:00 pm.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

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Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground, they were pre punk but out punked them all.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

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The stories of the street are mine,the Spanish voices laugh. The Cadillacs go creeping now through the night and the poison gas, and I lean from my window sill in this old hotel I chose, yes one hand on my suicide, one hand on the rose. I know you've heard it's over now and war must surely come, the cities they are broke in half and the middle men are gone. But let me ask you one more time, O children of the dusk, All these hunters who are shrieking now oh do they speak for us?

And where do all these highways go, now that we are free? Why are the armies marching still that were coming home to me?

Leonard Cohen 1967, sounds apropos for today.

Name: McMingus
EmailAddress: precognitive
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Anyone else dig Lou Reed .. from "Mistrial" - 'Video Violence' (c) 1986 "The currents rage so deep inside us/ This is the age of Video Violence/ No age of reason landing upon us/ This is the age of Video Violence "

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: open book
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Just got word from Sacto. Nor. Cal. that my Emails are being read. Cutting it off for good. (and they said it couldnt happen here.)

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Nichole, I think black hole's are portals, like gateways into alternate universe's, or exits from our, maybe like a rebirth, maybe like the flip side of life? Death's door? I know there unique in that they can not be explained in any conventional manner so they must represent something so alien or incomprehensible that that they defy our ability to comprehend them.

Your perception is as good as any and in a way in tune with mine.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Village Proper
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey West Village Girl, when you pick up your posters and films, I have a big ball of skunk poop for ya. (West Coast Goat pill)..you want wombs and black holes???..smoke some of this shit. After I had saftly escourted Jahmal out the front door, I was doin' some under glass, direct lung hits, right in the Ol' stoma while the crowd outside who had followed up the rear of the street sweep (calvalry charge) cheered me on. (It did however put dark Images into the cop's minds that will be hard to erase)...fuck em'. I was stripped to the waist and had my Tee Shirt hanging from the ledge. "DIGGERS NOTH CALIF." (UNDER GROUND???)...No Such Thing!

Name: deb
EmailAddress: derx@nowar.net
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

stop the war http://www.babykiller.com

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: on the grassy knoll
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Hang onto your vidio cameras folks. After reviewing tapes here in NYC, it seems that several "Kodak Moments" have proven that the only people who dont get maced and arrested are the plain-clothes policemen who instigate and start the street hastles in the first place. They jump into the mix, get it violent and then step back to finnish their hot chocolate. Now that the jig is up, they most likely will have to play the bust and book game...no sweat....(It's over time for them)...Hey Ohio Girl, the Wash. Sq. Church has updated it's web site to include The Next Century Project,..(in reference to us pulling up stakes and hitting the road)...hopefully there will be a posting of the West 4th Street Diggers on site soon. (that should make it official). MEDIA COVERAGE: Hey; whats this shit!!...we capture thousands: No Big Deal. They capture dozens: BIG DEAL. We kill thousands: No Big Deal. They kill dozens: BIG DEAL. For any of you folks who think that one American life is wourth more than any other race of people, stay the fuck off of 4th Street. And you think that Fidel is fucking with human rights??..he's not the one who's detained people in a U.S. held Cuban prison camp without representation for almost a year now. Think about it. ENEMY...ya, right. I got no enemy; and if Amerika is layin' its enemys on you,..reject it. Its to heavy. Repeat after me:...I an American...butI am not America. Diggers West 4th Street, New York City.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Lighten up That is the best site I have seen yet, if you can't laugh at the ass-hole you can't hate the asshole, oh wait, yes I can.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi again, getting away from the war for a minute...I once had a near death experience where I felt myself in the womb and was very content and knew of nothing else and as far as I knew I had been there, was there, and always would be there forever...untill I felt my self being pulled into something else...this caused me great fear...you know, the unknown...but I couldn't hold on any longer and finally went whirling down a tunnel and stopped somewhere in the middle where I saw everything that ever was or would be in a kind of opaque tube...it felt amazing during that segment...anyway then I continued on hurling through the tunnel untill I came out the other side which was the delivery room where I was born...Now, I say all that to ask this question of you all...do you think it's possible that Black Holes are birthing passages? If you look at photos taken with in the womb, the baby looks like it is floating in space...could be? Inner space as opposed to outer...just a thought...I've just read a paper where this week some scientist while looking through a high power telescope actually witnessed a dying star explode and become a black hole...sucking everthing in it's vicinity into it and to, well, quite frankly, no one knows where...so my theory is a good as any other...don't cha think? With warm regard, NIk

Name: Justin Chase Collins
EmailAddress: justincollins03@msn.com
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi! Today, I am working on a college paper for Honors English and American History. My topic is the Democratic Convention of 1968. I would love to talk to someone who was there or anyone who knows anything about the convention or the people who attended it! I need various info: Yippies, Black Panthers, SDS, MOBE, Hippie Radicals, etc! EMAIL ME, and Thank you!

Name: gouge
EmailAddress: chuckles
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

they're growing like weeds.

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole - Ditto steam! While on the subject of war photos - a web site called YellowTimes.org was shut down because they printed non-approved photos = Homeland Secuity in action......(gag)

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Lighten up...those were great, thanks...I think we should all e'mail the powers that be and ask if they won't show the videos of fallen soldiers because they don't want to see the blood? that's like people who only buy meat cut and wrapped in the butchers section, and they never have to think about how it got there...the process of slaughter...I mean I do eat meat at times and I buy it from the grocery store, but I lived on a farm and I KNOW where it comes from...this administration needs to actually GO OVER THERE THEMSELVES...they are so protected from the real world how can they possibly govern it...I'm steaming right now...

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Joe - Many thanks for your comments and the read!

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond: I just finished reading your book....I had to put it down a few times to digest what you were describing and saying....very well written and the graphical descriptions put you right there...you feel that you know these people...apparently you are doing well now and im very glad to hear it...you are a sensitive soul that intuites and percieves in a way different from the majority of people....and those always seem to suffer the most...it actually feels like a curse in itself sometimes

Name: Lighten UP
EmailAddress: r n a
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Lighten up...

Bush cartoons: this is quite the site

http://winstars.free.fr/english/bush.html

Lots of them. Photos, paintings, movie posters, etc.

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: at breakfast with brerfox and tarbaby
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

Eric, don't know what I'm doing wrong, that results in multiples--please leave one copy posted and remove the rest, thank you...............T

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: lostform2000@Yahoo.com
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

The only site-effective decontamination for exposure (especially to eye and face) from pepper mace is to flush the area with cold, repeat cold water for fifteen minutes, a clean handkerchief helps physically when used with water. These items should be in your sortie fanny pack (or its eqivalent) along with a working pencil and pad of paper with which to record the oficer's badge numbers--or where those badge numbers have been obscured, check for personal features like scars and tattoos. If you get a chance, write down details of police misbehavior, those kind of notes can be very helpful in recalling event details with which to help develop your defense in concert with your attorneys--and don't forget to explore finding attorneys that will agree to represent your case for FREE............................Travis UAW/MF........ps use the little goosenecked squeeze bottles, they seem to work best..........and surely if someone has a more effective treatment please list it here.........T

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: lostform2000@Yahoo.com
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

The only site-effective decontamination for exposure (especially to eye and face) from pepper mace is to flush the area with cold, repeat cold water for fifteen minutes, a clean handkerchief helps physically when used with water. These items should be in your sortie fanny pack (or its eqivalent) along with a working pencil and pad of paper with which to record the oficer's badge numbers--or where those badge numbers have been obscured, check for personal features like scars and tattoos. If you get a chance, write down details of police misbehavior, those kind of notes can be very helpful in recalling event details with which to help develop your defense in concert with your attorneys--and don't forget to explore finding attorneys that will agree to represent your case for FREE............................Travis UAW/MF........ps use the little goosenecked squeeze bottles, they seem to work best..........and surely if someone has a more effective treatment please list it here.........T

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: lostform2000@Yahoo.com
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

The only site-effective decontamination for exposure (especially to eye and face) from pepper mace is to flush the area with cold, repeat cold water for fifteen minutes, a clean handkerchief helps physically when used with water. These items should be in your sortie fanny pack (or its eqivalent) along with a working pencil and pad of paper with which to record the oficer's badge numbers--or where those badge numbers have been obscured, check for personal features like scars and tattoos. If you get a chance, write down details of police misbehavior, those kind of notes can be very helpful in recalling event details with which to help develop your defense in concert with your attorneys--and don't forget to explore finding attorneys that will agree to represent your case for FREE............................Travis UAW/MF........ps use the little goosenecked squeeze bottles, they seem to work best..........and surely if someone has a more effective treatment please list it here.........T

Name: cool breeze
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2003

Comments

On April first 2003 let's all remember are brother emmett grogan who died 25 years ago on april fools 1978. We will never forget you emmett.

peace

Full respect to the soul of emmett grogan

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

Thank Yew :)

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

Yes the flagwavers do have the most to gain and they aren't even cool enough to not admit it. "He ain't heavy, he's my brother" will never play through my mind quite the same again now!!!!

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

The anti war protesters in Portland may by charged with Terrorism! According to the local news a bill introduced in the state senate is designed to charge the hundreds of protesters arrested in the last four day's with act's of sedition! John Ashcroft you have got to be kidding!

Name: Dubya
EmailAddress: Bum Fuck Texas
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

Lissin up all yew diggies and hipsters, I’m wise to ya’ll, if yew think ya can fuck with my well thunk plans for world hegemany, yew all got another thunk comin! I got no qualms bout pullin the lever and fryin any body, specialy some uncouth rabble what got a problem with me and Daddy’s long term plans for that bastard Saddm, if you don’t believe me ask the last 50 or so people I done fried whilst I was govner. Jeb is the only other one who don’t mind fryin any one who might not agree and he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother! And for that punk Michael Moore, I got an invite to visit me and Jeb and we’ll find out who the major league asshole really is. Ya’ll got that?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

Ohio Girl, I did'nt mean to be flip about "wavering" I too have conficting emotions about this entire affair, I take some solace in a statement made in a by gone era "Patriotism is the last refuge of rogues and scoundrels" or some thing to that effect, it seems like those who do the most flag waving are the ones who have the most to gain from this whole sordid escapade.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

A daily online diary from someone in Baghdad

http://dear_raed.blogspot.com

The Baghdad Snapshot Action photos of people in the city

http://www.nationalphilistine.com/baghdad/index2.html

what happens if you act, or; mace as standard operating proceedure

http://www.nationalphilistine.com/baghdad/index.html

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

My temporary lapse was over the argument, "the world waited too long to stop Hitler." I had to really think it through and see how different today's world is than the 1930s and 1940s, and to really see how much the majority of the world wants a BETTER WAY than war, to deal with our problems. Saddam was already fairly well contained, he wasn't being appeased. Being a/the major power, the U.S. could have put energy into strengthening the U.N. not weakening it. Was there such protest about us going to Afghanistan? No, most people even a basically pacifist person like me could see that. Now I just pray for everyone in harm's way.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

Maybe I'll be their to share the land that they'll be givin away when we all live together.

By all means talk to a support group if you feel swayed by the media blitz of flag waving "Talking Heads".

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

Back in the saddle at home and so much to catch up on here! Excellent thoughts - communication and courage expressed by all.

Hey - and how about Michael Moore! The audience acted surprised though everyone in the house knew it was coming - especially from MM - and bless the hearts and minds of the young actors who spoke so freely from their hearts while others, far more expericned in "political correctness" (the cowards!), kept there tongues - as if the award ceremony was somehow immune (in a bubble) from speaking out.

 

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG and Mc Mingus, I agree with both of you regarding credit etc. I have had only one credit card in my entire life and when I maxed it out in less than a month I cut it in half and have never had another...even though I basically live pay check to paycheck, for now, I am freed up from that yoke of constant worry and anxiety of OWING. If I can't pay for it I probably don't need it...or will at least be forced to use my brain and get creative...I have a much clearer idea of the difference between want and need...my rent is low because I share my awesome apartment...my job gives me health insurance and though if I worked somewhere else I'd probably make more money, I like the people I work with and enjoy going to work in the morning...I think finding the balance with all of it is the key...if one day I were to own my own place...I think I'd still prefer it to be communal...a tribal village really...we may have the opportunity to do that if (when) the planet blows...individual dwellings with shared common space, but not at the price of a NYC condo or co-op!!!!

I have a confession...I watched Gen Tommy Franks talk about what "they" were doing and I had a temporary lapse of heart mind and soul...I found myself believing him...thank God I had the where with all to discuss this with someone and not keep it a secret cause I felt guilty...by discussing my feelings I was snapped back to reality and the knowledge of the propaganda machine...and I thoroughly suggest that any one who starts thinking that way Quick!!! get thee to a friend and discuss, discuss, discuss...and then after watching the hideous display of "on site reporting" my god...what are they thinking??? more on this later...but I can safely say I AM AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER WAR !!!

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 24 Mar 2003

Comments

I only saw Fort Lewis from a distance in 1967. It was just outside of Tacoma if I remember right. Stan had already shipped out to .We hit Seatle and did the Space Needle and the Old Worlds Fair thing...lots of freshley bathed and shampooed Hippies. A neater scene than San Fransico in my oppinion. (of course, they all went home to mamma every night, whereas the Funky Frisco thing was thousands "Away from Home")... there were thousands of hitch-hikers on the highways that summer. What lovely weather. Same Ol' Sun,..same ol' Moon,...same ol' war,shit.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Excerpt from Michael Moore's Oscar acceptance speech (Best documentary "Bowling for Columbine" a fucking great movie)

 

 

Then Moore got up to accept the award for best documentary, and all bets were off.

"We've got a fictitious president who was elected for fictitious reasons and now is conducting a fictitious war," he said. "You know what message the war is sending the young people of this country? That violence is an acceptable means by which to resolve a conflict. That's a sad and sick message."

 

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

I have some memories of Fort Lewis. The bastard that was in charge of the stockade was a Captain Powers. They liked to put you in a cage in the lobby of jail, right in the center of the room for display while "processing" you in. Marched us all to the mess hall in a chain gang. What a fine fucking time that was.

Name: Steve Again
EmailAddress: go ask Alice...
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Well, what with the War and all, Ive' done an about-face and plan on going with the flow here at the Peace Church and am going to follow thier camp to where ever they settle. (Im' one of the family; like it or not)...Hey, I plan on running for election as an officer in the next Trustees meeting on the 31st. That being said: Ive' just about resigned myself to the fact that our West 4th location will be history, and will do all that I can to see that we settle in a Theatrical environment which will be conductive to WSUMC's long history of supporting the arts and the social rights activists. (I was told that we could eek it out for another two years, but it looks like the July 1st. deadline will be it. It's been a one Hundred and forty three year run. (Not bad for a one act play)...

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: West 4th Street
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Who said that TRUTH was the first casualty of war?...heres the real poop on what came down at Washington Square Park yesterday; check out the blurb and the photo galleries. (click each photo to enter the albums)..http://www.indymedia.org/

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

 

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

NEW YORKERS!!!...check out "MANY"..(Medical Activists of NY) Many provides medical care and training for protests and direct actions. They provide jail support, aftercare, and maintain a referral network of activist-friendly healthcare professionals. E-mail: many@action-medical.net Voicemail: 212-696-6610 Http://www.action-medical.net/nyc UP AND COMMING DEPT: Palestinian Day of the LAND emergency March and Rally...(defend Iraq, Palestine and all that jazz. 11 am Saturday March 29th. Times Square (42nd & Broadway) http://www.onepalestine.org/ Hey, check out "MAMA" (Mothers Alliance for Militant Action) Big Mothers Day rally of resistance, solidarity, fun and entertainment. http://www.mamasrisingup-subscribe@topica.com/ and last but not least; here's a black cat that I remember my natural brother Stan telling me about,..(from his Fort Lewis and Levenworth Prison days)..RCP Natl. Spokesperson CARL DIX. (like I said; those commies are all right)...Carl will speak at Revolution Books, 9 West 19th Street, btw. 5th and 6th Ave. on Wed. March 26th at 7-9:00 pm. check him out. OK, OK, ..all is forgiven, heres the Anarchist's hot-line..(just dont tell em' that I sent ya'..OK?)..http://www.anarco-nyc.net/

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Well, after feeding most of the homeless Vietnam Vets in town, I set up 60 chairs in the Sanctuary thinking that the pow-wow was a congregation thing. I took a Hash Nap and woke up at 8:30 in time to put away over 300 chairs. The place was packed with heavies. Even the Anarchists that I had pissed off last year were here. (Anarchists with web sites..I dont get it.) It just puts the Kabaash on the cloak and dagger thing; dont you think?.....Anyway,..a few of my written questions were answered...in reference to media one-sidedness. (Viacom "MTV" refuses to run anti-war ads)...and CNN refuses to accept placements of anti-war TV ads as well. As I said, there were too many heavies to list,..but I can tell you who was not there....no spokesmen for the Carlyle Group (George Bush Sr. and the Carlyle group plan on making Billions from the 'War On Terror".) No one showed from Dresser Industries. (A Halliburton Subsidiary which has Dick Cheney on their payroll). No Rand Corp. people,...(the officially advise the US Government)..you know, remember their 2002 recomendation that the US should invade and capture Saudi Arabian oil fields???..ya, those boys. No Schlumberger Limited reps. (in position to reap 1.5 Billion in contracts in Iraq.) No DynCorp folks. (mercenary company credited with flying planes in defoliation missions in Colombia. Providing the core of the Bosnian Police Force. Producing smallpox & anthrax vaccines. Dyncorp was active in the first Gulf War and are now forward deploying equip. & ammunition to the middle east. Hey, I could go on and on, and on,....

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: llano estacado
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

McMingus: the phrase as it is spoken down here is ,"use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without."..................................T

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

I think I'm on the same wavelength with you, JAG. And here's my response to your post below .. a lot of personal freedom lies in getting out of debt .. i.e. find a way to pay off your mortgage as quickly as possible .. or find a cheaper house, whatever. Pay down credit balances, only use for major items like appliances, etc. What was the old line, 'make it last, use it up, or do without.' (People have always lived this way in Appalachia, where I live.) & just check out of the consumerist mentality .. if you own your property, and have minimal debt, then your income is truly yours .. getting off the treadmill of more possessions, more payments, more hard work & taxes .. while your precious days trickle away .. maybe not a popular idea these days .. but it makes sense to me. Oh yeah, more -- whatever skills you have, use them to barter time & labor with your neighbors. Start a vegetable garden. Blow up your TV (well maybe disconnect the cable & just rent movies.) Meditate .. like Joni Mitchell sings in Woodstock "try to set my [your] soul free." Don't know if I'm right, just my strategy. No BS.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Right on the Euro Sponge and Mark. Consumerism is rampant, savings a thing of the past, if not down right unpatriotic, the sickest thing to come out of 9-11 was Bush's admonishment to be patriotic and not disrupt your spending urges, no mention of sacrifice just spend as if that was enough to correct all the wrong on the planet.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG,

Oh yea....the dreams of youth, I still have some of those. Hey, immaturity too. I have no interest in crossing those off lifes little list. Well, I will leave immaturity up for grabs, I have had a full dose of that and have kept a little around for special occasions, maybe it was the psychedelics. The age old question. Are they old enough to _________? Fill in the blank with a number of selections. This, to me though, is really a part of the discussion surrounding the cycle of violence. Preying upon the inadequacies of youth to fill military ranks and send these kids full throttle into a bloodbath that forever reworks their mental circuits or worse to a violent useless death is one of the highest crimes a culture can commit. Doing it for the furthering of some polictical/economic/religious agenda is even higher on this list. So out onto the street we go, raising hell again, hopefully the discussion around some dinner tables get heated and the passions expose themselves, the pressures and tensions rise looking for resolution. Revolution? Evolution?

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

In the movie "Natural born killers" there is a scene were Micky and Mallory are in a shack with an Indian shaman.The shaman tells his son that their problem (Micky & Mallory) is that they have watched too much TV. I understood that scene and the irony wasn't lost on me either ,however that moment of film came back to me today like a tidal wave.

I was watching the war live, in real time ,as it happens. I was hearing about and watching bombing raids, Civilian casualties ,friendly fire and fake surrender scenarios. Then the screen changed and now I was watching how my clothes will smell better by using fabric conditioner or how my hair deserves some shampoo and by calling a free phone number I can save £££££s on my car insurance. This was going on whilst I was trying to get my head around the fact that the greatest danger to the coalition soldiers was infact the coalition.That thought was not given time to articulate because within seconds I had once again been turned into a consumer , and that is what this war is all about.Protecting our right to worship material goods and having the resources to feed our greed.When the screen returned to Baghdad live my mind was on Euro disney and Budwiser or any thing but the horror before my eyes. TV has truely desensitised us both spirititualy and moraly. If it hasns't increased our capacity to commit violence then it has done something worse it has sharpend our ability to disregard, in an instant, the reality and pilght of the victims of war . The war is on television right now ,is there realy a war happening or is that not important?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, I find your insight profound and informative, the passions of youth run high and the moral and personal stakes are obscured by naive aspirations that rarely find fruition. It is this very energy our military relies on to inculcate blind obedience and unswerving loyalty, much as cult's of personality rely on to recruit new accolytes to their cause, unfortunately this has transpired since time immemorial and to break the cycle one would have to dash the dreams of youth and immaturity.

 

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, I find your insight profound and informative, the passions of youth run high and the moral and personal stakes are obscured by naive aspirations that rarely find fruition. It is this very energy our military relies on to inculcate blind obedience and unswerving loyalty, much as cult's of personality rely on to recruit new accolytes to their cause, unfortunately this has transpired since time immemorial and to break the cycle one would have to dash the dreams of youth and immaturity.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

Thanks for the link to ADBusters. I was looking it over and my daughter (15 years) jumped right in. She has been going over the site and emailing her friends about it this morning. This kind of stuff has lots of appeal to young folks as well.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

JAG,

I agree with you the first line troops are victims of Bush's misguided invasion. The blood that will flow and the minds that are wounded are the same as all souls that find themselves in this kind of mess. I feel that the victimization begins by the seduction and inticement, cleverly honed over all time by warring states, of the young testosterone laden, short sighted by a youthful view, men who are looking for a road out of childhood to the open world as we all are in our late teens. Consumed by the natural urge to reform as an adult these manipulations offer the excitement and adventure to shake off the child/controlled identity to become self "directed". Problem is that this drive tends to cloud the real issues of morality and killing. Our societies ability to cooperate is in concert with this, offering terms like "best and brightest" and a host of others to encourage these "warriors" to become the doers of our countries dirty work. Somewhere that cycle needs to be broken. The idea of emphasis on personal responsibility, being provided with a clear awarness of what actions a new recruit might be ordered to take, and the acceptance of the consequences of those actions should be a major part of the recruitment process. Maybe that could be a start. But that would undermine the whole war thing wouldn't it? So "supporting our troops" takes on a very positive, although superficial, tone but is really, more darkly, participating in deceiving and using our young to do warfare for the society. It is a tough subject.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: right on!
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Right on, Peace Church! Reading all the recent messages here gives such a clear picture of the negative energy that needs to be countered right now (which is another way of saying, yes maybe something had to be done about Saddam Hussein but not if it meant filling the whole globe with negative energy). How can negative produce positive? So much divisiveness has been caused right here in the U.S. let alone the world. Our friendly TV sets give us all this negative-reality TV, and I'm drawn to watch like a moth to a flame. I find it positive to pray for peace and the safety of all humans involved. Peace

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Big pow-wow at the Peace Church in two hours. (5pm) Its about us getting involved in Civil Disobedience. I think the whole fuckin' congregation is jail-bound. Fuck it. Im' ready. Hey Kids!.."Try This At Home". Will keep you all posted. Hey, theres hope for this outfit yet,..I may make the move with them. (It's a "Bonding" thing.) We seem to be comming together as one. (Remember that feeling?)...

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

While my brother did a tour in Nam I was an immigrant to Australia and spent over a year their before being "repatriated" .We both returned to this soil to attend our mothers funeral. He was beyond traumitized by his almost constant exposure to combat and being wounded by "friendly fire". Through out this he was in touch with me down under and wholly supported my actions. When reunited I felt the guilt of omission by being where I had been while he was dodging bullets. He never made me feel any thing but proud of my behavior. I agree that the social forces that prevailed then are not the same as today but the first line troops who are involved in Iraq are still victims of mis-guided policy and are still going to bleed the same red our Vietnam era soldiers did.

A curse on Bush and his ilk for even pretending this is about more than a self serving oil for cash hijacking!

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: REFORMED DIGGERS
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Oh ya,..she's open to suggestions. Contact sadie@adbusters

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Decisions, decisions...
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

So...ya wanna' fuck the global bully?...put a kink into the fast food cospiracy?..shut down the sweat shops??...stick it up the ass holes of the paid-off press media parrots???...I aint talkin' about throwin' some silly-ass pies. Contact Sexy Sadie an' tell her that Silent Steve sent ya'. Come on mother fuckers, take a stand! Hit Rogue Nation USA where it hurts. Hook up with the Culture Jammers Network. http://www.adbusters.org/information/network/ The boycott America Pledge is up and running. http://www.adbusters.org

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

McMingus,

Your points are well taken. To me, Fundamentalist Islam is destabilizing due to the fact it is inherent in oil politics of the middle east. If that component is somehow removed, the conquest of Iraq would be useless to the Bush regime. Finding tyrants like or worse than Saddam is unfortunatly easy to do in this world. I agree that finding ways of promoting peace genuinely is foremost. Tackling the runaway mainstream media that is now fully an arm of the Bush war machine, bringing attention to the sidestepping of antiwar events prior to the bombing along with all the underlying motivations and deceits that have led up to this american disgrace, is the way to force the media to illuminate these issues. The demonstrations and civil disobedience have had this purpose for some time. The Bush led polarization at work now has an effect of narrowing down the image of dissent. The millions of people who have and will participate in protest certainly have lives and approach the struggle in realizing peace in a myriad of humanitarian ways. This effort didn't start with Bush, Saddam, and Islam and will stop after this conflict ends.

Being a Viet Nam Era Vet; that is another personal story...., I'm not so sure about the idea that these troops have a "get out jail" card. Certainly the ranks are filled with many of the disinfranchised minorities of our society. The problem I am grappling with is the "volunteer" status of the military. The military population isn't loaded with poor uneducated whites and minorities caught in the draft as during previous times. My experience back then as a Tech Instructor was many of these folks had no idea what they were getting into and felt very much like they were being swept up by forces more powerful than them. Most were in some manner of survival mode mixed with a fatalistic resignation of having no control over there personal lives. The education of the later years of the Viet Nam war coupled with the rising up of a more militant civil rights movement fomented an uprising within the military ranks which inflicted heavy blows to the armed forces credibility and ultimately contributed to the end of the war and the draft. Today is not the same.

I think you have offered some valid points for discussion, Thanks.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: New York City
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

An eye-witness acount of injured Policemen in NYC. It seems that they went into a frenzy after someone set fire to a flag and started maceing everyone (including themselves)...Oh, Emily Steadman said that she carried my sign most of the day and that it got filmed and photoed alot and get this: The Rev. Hooper asked me to take it out of my window ("Shock and Awe Bush at the next Election")...but here's the pay-off, he directed me to place it in front of the Alter for the Sunday service. I take back what I said about Texan's and Texas. The Rev. also asked me If I was ready to get arrested with him. Im' up to it, but it seems like a wasted bust,...you know,..getting booked for "Milling Around in Public"...I dont know,..actually I fear that they would mace me directly in the stoma hole in my neck and kill me,...but hell,...if the Hash dont, then nothin' will. Hey Eileen, "This Bust's for you. Aloha. Send a P.O. when you get settled in. Smiles. P.S. There were more people than were reported. (but you knew that)...

Name: UK - FYI Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Mar 22 2003

 

HUNDREDS of anti-war protesters descended on the Labour Party Conference in Dundee yesterday as demos worldwide saw two people killed.

And protests today across the globe are likely to become even more strident after last night's shocking onslaught on Baghdad.

Two hundred people in Dundee were joined by 100 Moslems who marched to Caird Hall after afternoon prayers.

And in the worst of demos worldwide, two people were killed in Yemen.

Winston Churchill's great- granddaughter, Jessica Churchill-McLeod, 14, led 600 students in a protest in Glastonbury, Somerset.

Police arrested 16 people in Manchester after protesters tried to block a main commuter route into the city.

In London, protesters riding bicycles caused traffic chaos as part of the Pedal For Peace demo.

Greenpeace used a hot air balloon to drop peace leaflets over RAF Fairford before US B52 bombers took off.

But the biggest demos since the war started are planned for today.

Organisers hope to attract 100,000 protesters in London.

In Edinburgh, marchers will assemble in the capital's Parliament Square at noon. Thousands are also expected at Glasgow's George Square.

Edinburgh Stop The War Coalition's Mick Napier said: "The number turning up to day- time protests has been utterly unprecedented."

Name: Mc Ming
EmailAddress: This should not be contentious
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Indeed, JAG -- a prayer for the decent men and women in uniform, who only are trying to do their job. On both sides. May the skirmish be brief, and peace a lasting thing.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

McMingus you make a rational point, however, Saddam, as despicable a tyrant as he is and as deserving a dictator as any to depose is no worse than a rouqes gallery of other despots around the globe. If his chief export were dates, or camels he would not even be on our leaders radar screens. Their only purpose in bringing him down has nothing to do with "humanitarian" reasons. This only a conveiniant rationale by Bush INC. to enrich his cronies and their ilk.

What I do hope we avoid is the vilivying of our soliders as they risk their lives in this process. My brother returned from Nam labled a baby killer and murderer. He nor our troops today deserve this. Most are disenfrancised poor who only have the military to find a better future. To lable them other does a disservice to them and ourselves.

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: with an inquiring mind
Date: 23 Mar 2003

Comments

Not to play the contrarian .. BUT .. despite all the reasons to resist war .. and this dirty little Iraq escapade in particular .. what about the fact that the Iraqi people have been essentially held hostage by a brutal regime, first cousin to Joe Stalin .. and you know how he liked to do things. It's not so simple .. in fact fundamentalist Islam is a very destabilizing force in world politics, we need to bolster liberal & democratic forces to counterbalance the non-rational ideologies in Muslim countries that promote the violence of suicide bombers and the like. I will grant you it is a tragedy to have Dubya at the helm at this moment. But it is a subject worthy of serious study .. how can we genuinely promote peace and justice ? Perhaps a contribution to Oxfam or the Red Cross for famine relief in (what's likely soon to be) post-war Iraq would be a stronger gesture of solidarity than marching in the street. In my humble opinion, of course.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

See what I mean?!!!!>>I meant MONKEY MIND.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: checking in
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Glad to get real reports of real events. I will miss you guys for a few wks until we get settled. I expect I will be off-line by Mon.

My man called and we put the pieces back together..enough for me to go on without that hanging in the back of my mind. Those pieces will never fit together as they used to but I'm off and running. After second sale today that was very low key I still have tons of stuff that am passing on to a friend to have his own sales in exchange for dealing with it and getting it out of my way. Tomorrow I pack and really take a look at what's going with. Still need home for best cat. Have been chanting and that helps so much it's stupid I haven't been keeping that together through all of this to ellimate my money mind getting the upper paw.

I am so grateful to those of you that are staying active on the streets. If I weren't hard into this move I would be out there. Will be looking to see if and how folks are responding in HI and where I can become involved. But for now am praying and know that must do something.

Just wanted to report in and not leave my last message. We're days awway from this move. I can hardly wait til we are on the plane and I can finally kick back for a few hrs and know everything is done here.

goodness to you all...

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

I have been watching the coverage of the turnout in NYC. Incredible. Something has gotta give somewhere.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Mark, I saw a play a couple of years ago put on by the Kairos Theatre. It was about one of those rebel pie units. It was called "A Good Day To Pie" if I recall. I knew the gal who played the main part.... Rebeca Pridemore. Hey, I just wadded through several National Guardsmen on my way to score some liquid Ensure. They have some nasty black mat burp guns. I still havent figured out what they were Guarding. ...but if in fact they were guarding anything at all; they were being very obvious. Hey!!!...come to think of it; they were "Milling Around"!!!... shit,...a stand up American Patriot would have sprayed them and sent them home. Im' slipping. More hash??..more wine???...No; Im' fine thanks.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress: Planetdrum@staffhenchperson
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

This was waiting in my email when I got home today.

 

Hello, From the trenches in San Francisco. If you wonder why Planet Drum forwarded this, read last line. PDF Staff _____________________________________________ The pie-throwing flan-archists of the Biotic Baking Brigade have struck again, this time targeting a corporate media reporter responsible for spewing misinformation about the massive anti-war protests in San Francisco.

Phase I of the BBB's "Operation: Shock & Awe" began at 7 pm on March 20. In the middle of blockaded Market Street in downtown San Francisco, outraged individuals surrounded KTVU Channel 2 reporter Jennifer Jolly (seriously, we're not making the name up), a typically blonde- haired, fancy-dressed TV "news" personality, and confronted her regarding her lies and blatant propaganda. Earlier in the day, these individuals had watched her report on the air that demonstrators were violent and disrespectful and lawless, that parents should not bring their children to anti-war demonstrations, that she had not witnessed any incidents of police brutality, and other such garbage.

BBB Agent Tarte Classique, who just so happened to be carrying around cans of whipped cream and paper plates, made her/his way through the throng, announced "Pies for your lies!", and deposited a large plate of cream straight into Jolly's talking head.

Of course, Jolly is just a cog in the corporate media machine. This phase of the BBB's "Operation: Shock & Awe" is meant to address not an individual telling lies, but rather, an entire corporate-industrial complex. The directors governing the media conglomerates also sit on the boards of the military weapons manufacturers and all of the other industries in an interlocking directorate of power. So, it is not really accurate or enough to just say, "the corporate media is biased." In point of fact, the corporate media IS the war, is the military, is the destruction of the environment, is the gentrification of our cities, is the criminalization of the poor and non-aryan and foreign-born...it is everything that we loath about this society.

During this time of global crisis, we don't expect pies to stop the military. But rather, we will use them to subvert the dominant paradigm as an auxiliary activity to the more pressing ones such as militant demonstrations, blockades and occupations.

Cry havoc and let slip the pies of war,

Agent Apple for the BBB

 

 

"O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, That I am meek and gentle with these butchers... Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the pies of war."

-William Shakespeare ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Biotic Baking Brigade.....coming soon to a pie-o-region near you.

 

 

 

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

I just drove back from SF and the demonstration there. Eric, I agree that was a long march. My legs are done for today. There was plenty of police and people who were seriously pissed at them today. The organizers managed the march well and the splinter groups were around but the ANSWER monitors were very good at explaining the march route and keeping those away from the confrontations who didn't want to be there. This was a very vocal and energetic 50 or 60 thousand people who are really beginning to understand what is at stake for the US. We are in a trememdously dangerous time and the momentum built by Bush and his thugs is huge. If he comes home a "hero" Iraq celebrating all the way the future of this country is in doubt. This is going to be a long probably bloody fight to try to turn the tide. I wish I was more positive, I wish I could keep my balance in this, but I just know that when Iraq is "over" the battles will be coming to the streets of NYC, Chicago, Portland, and San Francisco. I know that the barrel of Bush's gun is really pointed at the left, that would be us.

Name: karen
EmailAddress: bluefawn@rockisland.com
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

just in from a walk in the honey twilight of dusk, it just started--- A deluge of spring rain--- steady, life giving. Keep the peace ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Just got back from the anti-war march and rally in San Francisco. They announced there were 50,000. It was the longest march I've done in a long time (from Civic Center to Van Ness down to Market, completely engulfed Market from 12th street down to 4th street, then down a block to Mission street and back to Civic Center). Some splinter groups left the main march to block side streets. Action continues in the streets at this hour.

For anyone who has not heard, San Francisco was completely disrupted throughout the downtown area on Thursday. 1500 people were arrested. Yesterday there were 600 arrests and the disruptions focused on lower Market Street and the financial district. Today, the march completely stopped traffic for several hours on the main streets that run through the downtown section.

Sponge -- we have heard practically nothing about what is happening in Europe. Can you let us know what happened in London this week?

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey, I just shook hands with a very lost and confused Senator. His yes man had gotten us mixed up with Judson Memorial Church. They were looking for a Green Party function or some such wing-ding. I set em' straight and sent them on their merry way. Lotta electric vibes today. The cops are strong arming folks and getting kicked in the nuts by straight citizens. Seems its over a permit to march, but not to assymble.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Well, a newsperson just set my ass straight on the radio. It seems that "After" the march, Thousands of "People" were "Milling around" the park. The police "Urged" them to go home "Early" (long before closing time)...Ohhh...thats what it was. Hmm..."People"...oh, the American People???...Oh ya??, those people?. Well. There ya' have it. If yer' milling around after anthing, you may get urged to go home early. But doesnt getting sprayed with chemicals and arrested blow a hole in the getting home early part??...Its only a matter of time until they drop their blues and put on brown shirts. Folks, they took the "Private" out of private citizen. (but you knew that)...

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: what are we fighting for, don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is......
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Here's a suggestion....get some help to put your speakers up to your exterior walls-(specifically next to the then open windows) and play either songs for peace or harder edged politics. Bring the anti-war demonstrations home to the neighborhoods in that way, continuing to build and reinforce consciousness after your return from downtown activities.....................Travis UAW/MF

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Well, the NYPD got downright Anti-American. They took it upon themselves to attempt to remove the public from a public place. Lots of folks were in the Park, exercising their right to public assyembly right up until they got pepper-sprayed. (Thats where the "Disorderly" part comes in.) They spray you in the eyes; and if you blink, you are "Resisting". I wonder how the media will play this;.."UP"??, or "Down"???

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi folks just back from London. Media and police(bastards) have put a figure of 10's of thousands at todays peace demo in actual fact it was closer too 200,000 out on the streets.I am starting to hear reports of violence at the demo ,I didn't see any just one fucking big party

Name: Steve again
EmailAddress: West 4th (Fort Apache)
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

This has gotta' be the biggest gang of folks in the cities history. I walked out on the front steps and was behind a wall of blue. They all turned around and looked at me. Very edgy. I muscled my way down the steps just in time for a honey-skinned tourch singer named Jahmal asked me if she could pee-pee at my place. Rather than heading back up the stairs we wadded through the dozens of cops who all gave me the ol' "Where ya think yer' goin'?" look. I swung her into the church after doing an Alfred Hitchcock key in the lock number at the door. After drip-drying she exited through my door and the cops had already made a complete sweep swept all the way up to the park. Its a real army. Jahmal smooched me and gave me an anti-war button. Hey, my poster was a big hit and I put it in the front window after Dan brought it back.

Name: Steve again
EmailAddress: West 4th (Fort Apache)
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

This has gotta' be the biggest gang of folks in the cities history. I walked out on the front steps and was behind a wall of blue. They all turned around and looked at me. Very edgy. I muscled my way down the steps just in time for a honey-skinned tourch singer named Jahmal asked me if she could pee-pee at my place. Rather than heading back up the stairs we wadded through the dozens of cops who all gave me the ol' "Where ya think yer' goin'?" look. I swung her into the church after doing an Alfred Hitchcock key in the lock number at the door. After drip-drying she exited through my door and the cops had already made a complete sweep swept all the way up to the park. Its a real army. Jahmal smooched me and gave me an anti-war button. Hey, my poster was a big hit and I put it in the front window after Dan brought it back.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Tax Cuts for the upper one percnt??? (not much media coverage there)......oh,..right;,..Im' supposed to be distracted by the war,...(I forgot).... hey, things got really hot at Wash. Sq. Park,..(even as I speak)... I ran into Rags the homeless commedian. Thousands of very vocal grand folks, parents, teens, kids and collage pranksters,...real mixed bag. Lots of heat parked out front as they closed down West 4th. Street. Hey,..I may walk out there with a teaspoon full of Gold Medal Flour and shut down the city. Hell, it could happen. Everyone seems scared.

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

In London Today http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,12809,919813,00.html

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Daniel Ellsberg Interview: http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7461

Name:
EmailAddress: North of
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen, Aloha and mahalo, lived near the North Shore for a few years and worked on the White ships out of Honolulu , it can still be Paradise even though we Haole's screwed it up.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Once again getting ready to head for San Francisco for more demonstration. I am sure the overall vibe will be more tense this time. More demonstrations in Santa Cruz yesterday including one organized by local high school students. Capitola police arrested 12 demonstrators blocking entrance to a local recruiting office yesterday.

Name: Steve Again
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey, Dan Kinch of the Kairos Theatre is going to tote my sign. He's a good cat. He's doing an interview documentary thing with some very heavy female activists. Ive' marched a few time s with Dan over the last two years. Check him out on the web. Very talented playright. and solid friend.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Miz Nancy crashed at my digs after we had a few at the Stoned Crow and fried a goat pill. She's down soith of Cannal getting a mamigram. I finished the sign, but wont' get to march as I am making some lunch money working the desk from 1)-1 pm. Broadway is closed from 42nd St. on down. The parade winds up at Wash. Sq. Park, so I may have alot of company later. Rev. Bryan is toting a sign that reads: "Texan For Peace".

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

Hello Garrett! Eileen, enjoy Hawaii a little extra for those of stuck in climates where you freeze in winter and boil in summer and intend to at least see Hawaii one day.... Not meaning to make light of moving, it's so difficult I know, but Hawaii what an adventure.

Name: garrett kiefer
EmailAddress: garrett2343@yahoo.com
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

i lived at the ranch in the summer of '67. (shel silverstein, the steve miller band, tim leary, superman, etc. etc.) i came out from n.y.c. with david & penny in a driveaway in '66. anyone here know what happened to those two people? and Joe Conte and Lucy Livingood? last I heard they went to hawaii, where joe was going to be a crab fisherman...? spent "some of the best years of my life" there. how great to be able to plug back in, after all this time. went to the ranch with the new love of my life last fall (she'd never been there before) and as we walked along the trail at the back of the property, approaching the redwood grove, she had a vision of Lou, standing there amongst the trees. she'd never seen him before yet when i asked her to describe what/who she saw...it was Lou! i just wanted to share that here. what ever happened to Morning Star East?

peace, LOVE IS ALL THERE IS,

garrett

 

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 22 Mar 2003

Comments

I changed my mind (who me?)....the sign will read: "SHOCK AND AWE BUSH IN THE NEXT ELECTION" ...nuff' said???)

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Some diversion. I just finished watching a favorite video. Made me think of ya'll. "Hugo Pool" with Robert Downey,Jr., Sean Penn, Faye Dunaway, Michael Lewis and Malcom McDowell. This is a funny movie. Check it out. Okay, back to the war.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

just a though...that's how my mind runs as well. reporting the war for TV to sell deoderant and cars.

Name:
EmailAddress: John Ashcroft's dream
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/

Name: Mc Ming
EmailAddress: gettin the space ship ready
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

if you've got any of these recordings .. of which there are dozens .. SUN RA & his Myth Science Arkestra, AKA Astro Infinity Arkestra .. a door to other dimensions .. some better than others, it's all good .. my tune right now : 'Next Stop Mars'

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: The Stoned Crow
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Psssst...Saddam is booked in the next room from the CNN Crew under the name of Mr. Jones. An' you know somethin' is happen' here....Hey, I plan on carrying a sign that reads: SHOCK AND AWE AT THE VOTING BOOTH /LIBERATE THE REPUBLICANS.

Name:
EmailAddress: a thought
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Can you imagine Iraqi journalists and film crews commenting for their local affiliates from the balcony of the New York Hilton while Iraqi planes and missles rained carnage upon the streets of Manhattan?

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: 133 West 4th Street
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Anti War Poster Making Party at my place until 8PM or??? Drop in (ring bell "Artist in Residence") Its for the March on Saturday the 22nd. Get here, we'll do the rest.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: lol
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

titaniumcounter.com, now that's funny, feels like I sure needed to laugh that much in the midst of the nausea vision. Nausea vision, now that's the truth.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

"On The 3rd Day" http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/bwsky.html

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

It might be the utter depravity of the times, but someone sent me the following URL and I practically busted my gut laughing so hard:

(note: may contain offensive language to some)

http://www.titaniumcounter.com/temp/emergency/

Name:
EmailAddress: The Banks of the Euphrates
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

http://www-relg-studies.scu.edu/netcours/rs011/restrict/gilflood.htm

from The Ballad of Gilgamesh, ancient Sumerian Epic

Pre dates the Bilical Flood of Noah

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark and Hammond~You said words I needed to hear. Miranda and I cried together as I read your responses. "The two men in my life today" I told her. It did not feel so bad.

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

SF News in today's CounterPunch http://www.counterpunch.org/

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Stew Albert's Portland

Consequences

Dom, ended his speech proclaiming the old and golden Sixties slogan, “Power to the people.” And the people were about to demonstrate their power by shutting down or jamming up major sections of Portland. They were trying to punish Bush for invading Iraq and showing contempt for our planet’s noblest aspirations.

We started out in Terry Shrunk Plaza with a rally, maybe 2,000 were present. The high spirited solidarity that was obvious at the last Portland march continued to energize the protesters. And with drum like sounds most of the crowd, including many students who left school early, soon headed into the streets, marched around the Plaza several times and then headed into the downtown for some bold and creative disruption.

Those who remained in the Plaza continued with their speeches, networking and petition signing. They also expressed support for those who were pushing the city into purposeful chaos.

Both the rally and the march lacked a permit but as one speaker declared, “Bush doesn’t have a permit to make war!”

The marchers managed to stop traffic on two bridges and three Interstate highways, through a combination of putting their bodies on a line where cars couldn’t go and holding random sit-ins. The police did some pepper spraying, bean bag shooting and clubbing but were obviously under order to act with some restraint. The disrupters were quite aware that similar actions against the war were going on all over the world and that certainly added to their confrontational capacity.

Arrests were taking place but festivities of the people’s power, continued into the AM and were covered live and continuously by the local Fox affiliate. The “whole Oregon was watching.”

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

A thought for today:

Hey fuck you, George! You needle-dick, bible quotin', right wing suckass killer! Ahhh....that looks good in print. I feel better today.

Eileen,

I am thinking of you. Sometimes turning a page is more like tearing it.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen - such sad (yet strong - and spirited) resignation in your voice. Moments like the one you describe are indeed hard to swallow. My thoughts and prayers are with you on your journey - and his whoever he may be - I know how hard it can be (there I go with the Beatles again!) as I can well imagine that "leaving you," with or without words, would be a heart breaking experience. Namasté

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve glad you got the package. Made with our own little hands. The other book one of my most favorite.

this morning the light has that raw look as my lover i can no longer allow in my heart leaves without a word. i tried to tell him but he thought his presence would be enough. it feels like a cold day in hell. it is not easy to end a relationship and goodbye sticks in my throat. make love not war. i couldn't

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Looks like even the spooks were telling George II to his face he was a liar...

http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=3298&sectionID=15

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Here is the strange story of the protestor who jumped or fell from the Golden Gate Bridge.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/03/21/MN280768.DTL

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Here is the strange story of the protestor who jumped or fell from the Golden Gate Bridge.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/03/21/MN280768.DTL

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Walking one of the dogs on another sunny, short-sleeves day, I noticed that the color of the ground was being changed by the tiny clumps of new, green grass sprouting all over the lawns. No leaves yet on the trees but birds were singling wildly in a clear blue sky, and I saw some crocuses blooming. Potential Spring loveliness everywhere. Then I remembered, my country is at war. Then I went to WalMart to look for presents for my granddaughter's first birthday and they were playing the war news over their loudspeaker.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Still crazy after all these years.
Date: 21 Mar 2003

Comments

Wow!!....Thats Alright little Mamma Eileen, Wow!...I put on that crazy hat and did some of that crazy stuff and then tried to come up with a short list of things to do....hell, ...I couldnt think of one damn thing. And to think, just yesterday, I was a very busy man. Smiles to you. Hey Mark; I hear ya'. And to take it one step further; I for one never saw an *Asterisk in front of "Thou Shalt Not Kill". (think about it)...hey; I just came up with somethin' to do!!! (more of that crazy stuff). Well thats one thing in a row. P.S. Sam; its amazing how many American Native "Sign Talk" words that I already mime without having been taught. Thank again. P.S.S. Hey, I got to throw a word and get Eye to Eye with Iron Eyes Cody one night back in 1976 in Old Hollywood. He was on horseback in a parade on the Blvd. Sweet Lorraine and I were holed up in my North Gordon digs (between Fountain and Santa Monica Blvd.) My landlord was the old Jazz Man "Rowley the Roof. Any way,..sign talk,..hell, with Iron Eyes it was pure "Sight Talk"... he looked at me after I had called his name out very low in order not to spook his horse. (which was odd; as it was a loud parade).. I gave away my white upbringing by smiling. He gave a nod and proudly smiled without smiling. Read me? Later all,...I ah,...I got somthin' to do.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Nothing good ever came out of a gun barrel. Killing kills it's victim and the killer. How are we ever going to get better?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Portland, Oregons budget shortfall for education amounts to 9.5 million dollars. Bush Inc. is going to spend 95 Billion for his adventure in the desert, if he handed over 9.5 million to Portland or any community who needed it there would be nothing to show for Exxon, Mobile, Shell et al . Conversely if he spends 95 Billion for the overthrow of a "hostile" regime the main benificiaries (see above) are out of pocket Nada yet they prosper immensely from misspent tax dollars that leave the children of Portland and any other metropoliton center, rural town, or plain needy folk S.O.L.

This amounts to 10,000 times the amount of money needed to fund my childs education! A mere pittance if used properly. Why are we so easily duped?

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Ninevah, Babylon, Sumeria, ancient seat of civilizations dawn, now the realm of barbarion hordes picking like vultures at the carrions carcass. Ali Baba and the fourty theives, Sinbad and the treasures of Baghdad, a culture of antiquity reduced to a "Bubbilin Crude" Jed Clampett,whither thou goest?

I hope the fall of a tyrant like Saddam will mean more than profits for Haliburton but the obvious is that the ancient's of yore (Persia Beware) shall be next in line for a dose Texas Justice.

Name: Mc Nut Case
EmailAddress: raving on
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Waall Steve -- Glad you're not depending on the TV networks for your news .. it's coming across like the NCAA playoffs or such, a little sports tournament .. 2nd place would be pretty good. Just give me another 20 mg librium & stick a pacifier in my mouth till I go punch the clock against the wall again.. Home of the brave, land of the free ? .. Are they still taking refugees in Sweden ? Somebody wake me out of this bad dream.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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Well, the free food deliveries to the Peace Church are getting very spuratic. The City Harvest folks just dumped over 30 employees. That adds on to the nearly one quarter million jobs lost in NYC since 09-11. When ya' think about it; it's nothin' that a cool 200 Billion couldnt fix....Oh... I forgot,..that money is being used over-seas in Bush's new "Forign Policy"...as always; pardon my spelling. Hey,..what ever happened to AIDS, or the Social Security and Medical crisis issues??? Did they go away???...maybe the CNN news people will clue me in...NAAAA!!!!

Name: LionHeart and MammaMoon
EmailAddress: 60sfurther@redjellyfish.net
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Finally found you! Yes...we have a candle lit hourly here in Southern Colorado-they trashed McDonalds in France.ahhhhhhhhh what a shame!! We will visit often. We are here!

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Update Portland OR

Police confront demonstrators, Officer down, anarchists roam, all on a minute scale compared to national disruptions yet Portland shall not go quiet into that goodnight.

We have a groundswell of serious opposition to national policy, demonstrators tried to charge the pro war "forces" all 50 of them, police have kept them separated so far but gas and sticks have flown. Local news has pre-empted all regular programing.

Name: Sheriff Boyd
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

President George Bush, I am hereby making a citizen's arrest. I am personally placing you under house arrest for CONSPIRACY, WAR CRIMES and DISTURBING THE PEACE. P.S. Hey Dubbya',..If UGLY was a crime, your' mother would be on Death Row.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Provincial Portland makes itself heard! Protesters are blocking rush hour traffic, disrupting bridge traffic, and causing general havoc downtown. Police are "containing" the demonstrations but have had little success in stopping any body.

A group of pro war supporters, from the look of them on TV , about 50 or 60 strong, are lying in wait for the main group of demonstaters to confront them. Don't know how it will play out but tensions are elevated around here.

Name: Mc Ming
EmailAddress: I will not be moved
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Somewhat long-winded essay, still might be of value to some of you .. the value of that priceless attribute, the unique one-of-a-kind, individual human soul .. and from the so-called right wing website, Lew Rockwell.com .. check it out --

http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer39.html

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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Downtown San Fran is today an example of roving autonomous direct action. Affinity groups independently blocking intersections all over the financial district, the whole length of Market Street, Van Ness Avenue, Mission Street, onramps to the Bay Bridge. Scores of helicopters attempting to track the multitudinous movements throughout the city. Police communications are in confusion as they try and locate the groups. "There's a group of 25 or 30 sitting in the intersection of Fell and Gough. Please bring a bus for arrests." Minutes later, "About that group at Fell and Gough, they have moved off, seem to be going north in the direction of Geary." Multiply interactions like that by the dozens all day long.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Shock and Hurl in SF!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2003/03/20/heaving.DTL

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Ah Santa Cruz, what a place. I am sitting in my car at a stoplight on 41st Ave. This is a typical busy boulevard with shopping malls, banks, supermarkets, etc and I am sitting at the busiest interesection, first in line at the red light. It is around lunchtime so traffic is heavy. I am watching some protesters in front of the recruiting station down the block calmly holding signs and waving. All of a sudden a convoy of sheriff cars,lights flashing about 6 or 7 squad cars, 2 or 3 SUV's, and 3 paddy wagons arrive at the light intending on crossing the intersection in front of me. They are obviously a little overamped and chaos prevails. Suddenly another squad car drives into the intersection and stops, the officer gets out to stop traffic but is a little unsure of how to do it. Meanwhile some of the convoy makes it across the intersection only to come to a screeching halt at a stop sign a short block away. Not enough room for all these other cop cars. The agitated deputy starts waving the other cars through quickly. I hear skidding rubber and watch as the second half of the convoy speed across the intersection and then lock up their brakes. Boom, boom, boom. A chain reaction rearend collision. Nothing more hilarious seeing 3 paddy wagons bang into each other. I don't know where they were headed because the just regrouped and took off. Made my fucking day.

Lots of protests around the Bay Area today. Cops all over the place. I will be in SF on Saturday at the Civic Center to raise hell. The mighty shit should be hitting the Amerikan fan hard by then.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

http://www.mikeleo.com/beer/beer.swf

At the risk of being sexist check this out (I'm guilty I laughed)

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Mother Witch: got the goodies this A.M. Its a wonder you can even pack yer' tootsies into your' socks (much less travel bags) with goat pills like that rollin' around on the floor. Thanks for sweeping a few up for me. Well, I actually turned on a Television set (oops, dating myself again)..ahhh..T.V. and its as if the newscasters are covering the Super Bowl. (Score Board and all)...something very distastfull about real-time war. It makes the commercials almost blood-thirsty. Hey I just got a real negative Email in reference to the combined Formal Educations for the Bush Administration compared to the High School level/collage drop out Actors and commedians who keep criticizing them. It just tells me that Smart people with hidden agendas are the most deadly animals on the planet. Give me plain folks who are up front any day. Well here in NYC weve' lost another freedom issue. It seems that now on the subway, that any tri-state cops can fuck with you. N.J. Conn. etc. Those fat boys just love to fuck over the girls. (better check those powdered donuts for anthrax)....

Name: SF Gridlock News
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Gridlocked in SF -

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2003/03/20/protesters.DTL

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Theres something great going on here in the UK folks somthing possitive emerging. Possibly a beacon on the horizon. I said yesterday that 100 school children shut down Liverpool city centre, well today they were back 1000's of them in nearly every major UK city. London ,Birmingham,Cardif, Nottingham, Bristol and many other cities. These are not your university or college students. No . These are young teenagers fom 12 - 16 just skipping school and doing their thing. I watched them on the news today chanting "sit down for peace" putting up 2 fingers to the police , who stood by and watched hoplesly, unable to manhandle the defiant youth whilst the cameras rolled. The schools have threatend to take action against any pupil not attending lessons.They responded by inviting their teachers too join them on the ground.Is this the future ? I hope so.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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Michael, Pretty scarey stuff...but we knew that...I had already gotten a heads up passed to me from my "friend" in the spy biz...about certain of us in this community...saying ,"get a lower profile, you are being watched seriously" but hey, too late and like one of us said in response to the warning, "if they are afraid of us for disseminating info...oh well"

ps Michael, do you remember Randy Van Warmer? He was going with Jeanie Valez sister? a songwriter? "Just when I needed you most" let me know.

Name: Michael
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Interesting article guaranteed to add some fire to your day. Leaning on you and using the law to make you shut the fuck up.

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15422

Some Dare Call It Treason By Bill Berkowitz, WorkingForChange.com March 19, 2003

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Ohio Girl - What a sweet moment backstage and just like Richie to wear the necklaces. You never know - he might still be wearing them!

The Bridge - so is the "banner hanger" actually a suicide? Was a banner found? How ultimately sad - and (misguidedly) brave - and so ironic that the first official casualty should be an anti-war (yet life-forsaking) statement.

Namasté to his soul and condolences to his family and friends.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

CounterPunched again..... From today's issue http://www.counterpunch.org/guthrie03202003.html

Vinceremos!

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

I can't get the Ministry of Information site to load now, it worked when I opened it from my desktop. Pretty Orwellian

Name: Rumor Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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'Senior Officials' Think Saddam May Not Have Survived Thu Mar 20 2003 10:33:00 ET "I am being told by several senior officials not to take that taped speech Saddam gave last night as proof that he survived the attack," CBS NEWS reporter David Martin said on air. "They say the evidence that put him in the bunker last night was very reliable, and they are confident that the cruise missiles and bunker-busting bombs that were fired at that bunker last night hit the target. So now, intelligence experts are studying the tape to determine if it is really Saddam, or a body double which he is known to use from time to time. And they are running a computerized voice analysis, comparing that speech with known recordings of Saddam's voice. But that's a process that takes awhile. So we may not have a quick answer." "There is considerable belief in this government that they may, in fact, have gotten Saddam."

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Click on the web cam symbol in the upper left to bring up the main site, I couldn't get it to load by using the original URL

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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http://www.uruklink.net/iraqdaily/

http://www.webcaminiraq.org/album.htm

 

Heres a couple of sites that are interesting the first is the Official Iraqi news site put out by the Ministry of Information, and the second is a Spanish Web Cam in Baghdad (soon to be in English)

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Mar 2003

Comments

Well they've gone and done it. Yesterday I hid out in a kids' video, "Spirit" which is beautifully made, and escaped down-home with the video "Sweet Home Alabama," but today I feel crushed watching the news. Yes by some miracle Alaska was spared from being plundered for oil, that was actually voted down. That reminded me to pray that the Iraqi landscape will not get much more ecological devastation, along with praying for all the humans whose lives are in peril. Alot of humans will have to live off of what's left of the Iraqi land after these present sorrows.

Richie Havens . . . when my 24-year-old was around 16 I took him to see Richie Havens at the Cuyahoga Valley Music Festival (not sure of the exact name). My son was a teenager and not impressed by much of my life at the time, but he and I were both just blown away by being at folk music festival and how different it was than rock shows. People were sitting around in groups jammin' with guitars and banjos, you didn't have to get searched and throw away your soda pop to enter the grounds . . . I had brought two beaded necklaces I'd made, to try to give to Richie Havens. This confirmed to my son that I was crazy. The afternoon performance, at a small outdoor stage, moved me so much. My late first husband had worked at a coffee house in New York (Hammond you might have seen him!) where Richie Havens played, so the music was dear to me. After the show I got up my nerve and asked one of the people on stage if they might give some necklaces to Richie Havens for me. To the complete surprise of my son and me, we was told, why don't you just go backstace and meet him!!!!! Well he was really beautiful. We shook hands. I gave him the necklaces and with a most beautiful smile he said, "This is what keeps the planes flying." The evening's show was almost canceled due to lightning and rain, but my son and I ended up in front-row seats under a tarp with another die-hard who wouldn't be deterred by weather. Richie Havens wore my necklaces along with the many others for that wonderful show. Peace

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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Yesterday afternoon I was able to spend some time with the Super Human Crew and after the Gold Rush, I boogied around the church with little Darla in tow. She will be one year old soon. It was all shits and giggles. We listned to Paul Knopf's Jazz Meditation session in the Sanctuary. No war. No hunger. No pain. A man and a child and some music.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Fear City
Date: 20 Mar 2003

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Hey, I get most of my information third or fourth hand, so this may not be accurate, but I just heard that the Senate or Congress just shot down George Bush's sceme to drill for Oil in the Arctic;..(on some sort of National Wild Life reserve or somethin')...I dunno'...Sounds about right dont it???.. Any question in anyone's mind that we are all being lead down the rosey path by a third rate (any other kind?) Texas Oil Man??? (oh,..did I say man??) Hey Dr. Sponge; you must really be an Englishman,...over here we call it the Statue of Inequality.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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The Marin County Coroner said tonight it is investigating the death of a 44-year-old man who committed suicide by jumping from the eastern side of the mid-span of the Golden Gate Bridge about 11:30 a.m. this morning.

The U.S. Coast Guard recovered the man from the water and performed CPR on him, but he was pronounced dead at 12:05 p.m.

The California Highway Patrol said the man had been standing on the outside of the guard rail for about 40 minutes prior to jumping. He was reportedly expressing his personal opposition to a war with Iraq.

CHP and Golden Gate personnel tried to talk the man off the bridge for about 30 minutes before he eventually jumped.

The man's identity is pending until notification of next of kin. An autopsy Thursday morning is expected to determine the exact cause of death.

 

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: is the escape pod ready ?
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Not to get too obsessive on this one topic .. but details here of Israeli disruption of the memorial service for Rachel Corrie --

http://www.rense.com/general35/memd.htm

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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A curse on the men in Washington, Pentagon

http://www.diggers.org/digpaps68/curse.html

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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God Damn George Bush and all Warmakers in this World

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Hammond,

It is being reported as an a single anti-war protestor trying to attach a banner to the center span of the bridge but no banner was found. Sounds flaky.

CNN is broadcasting ari fleischer saying it is starting. Here we fucking go. What fucking failure of amerikan morality. Bush is coming out to speak, maybe in his damn cowboy outfit. I live in goddamn Santa Cruz folks and the amerikan flags are flying here, I can't believe it.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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An anti-war protester fell or jumped to his death today off one of the towers of the Golden Gate Bridge.

U.S. Coast Guard spokesman Chief Petty Officer Dan Brophy said the man was pronounced dead at 11:55 a.m. Initial reports indicated the man was attempting to secure an anti-war banner on one of the bridge towers, however no banner was found at the scene.

The man fell about 220 feet from the center span to the bottom of the bridge, Brophy said.

An anti-war protester fell or jumped to his death today off one of the towers of the Golden Gate Bridge.

U.S. Coast Guard spokesman Chief Petty Officer Dan Brophy said the man was pronounced dead at 11:55 a.m. Initial reports indicated the man was attempting to secure an anti-war banner on one of the bridge towers, however no banner was found at the scene.

The man fell about 220 feet from the center span to the bottom of the bridge, Brophy said. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2003/03/19/fall.DTL

 

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Speculation News in Oregon has it that the death on the bridge was a suicide - Mark do you know? H>

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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The Israeli army is blindsided by "Special Interest" groups, much as in America, when a tragedy such as this occurs rather than ackowledge it, it is much more prudent to demonize the victim. I only hope the innocent bystanders that fall prey to this feeding frenzy by media opportunistics can weather the storm of crazed public opinion and accomplish their goal of social equity for all residents of "Occupied Palastine" They have plenty of support from the unheard mass of Israeli citizenry.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Here is something strange. I was at home today working on remodeling the kitchen. I watch the California Highway Patrol live dispatch website as kind of a monitor for what might be happening in the state. This afternoon there was a big dispatch to South Sacramento for a heliocopter that went down. When they found it they reported two fatalities. I can't find any coverage about it on any of the Bay Area or Sacramento news outlets. Anybody see anything about it? Something like this would normally be all over the news.

Name: say it aint so
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

at the memorial for Rachel Corrie in Gaza a soldier in an Israeli tank hurled tear gas at the 100 gathered mourners.

 

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

The deadline has passed unleash the hounds! And may God be with your soul. I think I'm in a Fellini flick

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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His Holiness the Dalai Lama's views on war and Iraq conflict The following is the English translation of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's views on war and Iraq conflict shared with Buddhist devotees and others on the first day of the Great Prayer Festival

11 March 2003, in Dharamsala

The Iraq issue is becoming very critical now. War, or the kind of organized fighting, is something that came with the development of human civilization. It seems to have become part and parcel of human history or human temperament. At the same time, the world is changing dramatically. We have seen that we cannot solve human problems by fighting. Problems resulting from differences in opinion must be resolved through the gradual process of dialogue. Undoubtedly, wars produce victors and losers; but only temporarily. Victory or defeat resulting from wars cannot be long-lasting. Secondly, our world has become so interdependent that the defeat of one country must impact the rest of the word, or cause all of us to suffer losses either directly or indirectly.

Today, the world is so small and so interdependent that the concept of war has become anachronistic, an outmoded approach. As a rule, we always talk about reform and changes. Among the old traditions, there are many aspects that are either ill-suited to our present reality or are counterproductive due to their shortsightedness. These, we have consigned to the dustbin of history. War too should be relegated to the dustbin of history.

Unfortunately, although we are in the 21st century, we still have not been able to get rid of the habit of our older generations. I am talking about the belief or confidence that we can solve our problems with arms. It is because of this notion that the world continues to be dogged by all kinds of problems.

But what can we do? What can we do when big powers have already made up their minds? All we can do is to pray for a gradual end to the tradition of wars. Of course, the militaristic tradition may not end easily. But, let us think of this. If there were bloodshed, people in positions of power, or those who are responsible, will find safe places; they will escape the consequent hardship. They will find safety for themselves, one way or the other. But what about the poor people, the defenseless people, the children, the old and infirm. They are the ones who will have to bear the brunt of devastation. When weapons are fired, the result will be death and destruction. Weapons will not discriminate between the innocent and guilty. A missile, once fired, will show no respect to the innocent, poor, defenseless, or those worthy of compassion. Therefore, the real losers will be the poor and defenseless, ones who are completely innocent, and those who lead a hand-to-mouth existence.

On the positive side, we now have people volunteer medical care, aid, and other humanitarian assistance in war-torn regions. This is a heart-winning development of the modern age.

Okay, now, let us pray that there be no war at all, if possible. However, if a war does break out, let us pray that there be a minimum bloodshed and hardship. I don't know whether our prayers will be of any practical help. But this is all we can do for the moment.

Translated and issued by: The Department of Information and International Relations Central Tibetan Administration Dharamsala INDIA

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

A Reuters flash has just announced that a protester fell to his death today from the Golden Gate Bridge while hanging an anti-war banner. The first casualty in the war for peace

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: Little Beirut AKA Portland, OR
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

The brave and tragic death of Rachel Corrie is felt deeply here, she is a North West anachronism, one who speaks out even when the tides of public opinion are washing the other way. George Sr. called Portland "Little Beirut" when he visited in the 90's I couldn't be prouder of the sobriquet.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Well we are on the edge of the chasm of absolute human misery tonight with one foot on the banana peel. Once again it is all too clear that humans have not evolved sufficiently. I feel a great sickness in the whole of my being for all the innocents who are about to suffer.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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http://www.jwj.org Good site, Joe Hill is smilin

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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My NY friends..you might find this interesting.The Listeners Spring Concert Healing Music

This is a special ceremony for letting go of unreleased winter junk and for opening to the inner and outer blessings of spring.

For over 25 years, The Listeners have been studying the traditions and techniques through which participants can use ceremony for healing and integration.

The concert will consist of a series of improvised pieces on ancient world instruments. The event will last about two hours. Admission is $10. Please arrive by 8 pm.

Saturday April 5th. 22 E. 89th St., Apt 6C, NYC.

http://www.thepurposeofmusic.com/

 

 

 

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: 'my sweetheart's on the barricade'
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Grief for the young American woman, Rachel Corrie, crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer .. link to her e-mails back home to her family in Olympia, Wash. Vivid picture of life for occupied Palestine, and why she was there.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,916299,00.html

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Received this communique from "Jobs With Justice" Nice to know labor is not afraid to speak out.

 

On February 13, with the assistance from CNP, more than 30 labor leaders held a press conference under the banner “U.S. Labor Against the War.” Most of the leaders were from Chicago JwJ affiliates. The leaders officially announced their opposition to the war and committed themselves to doing more to engage their membership on this important subject. They further undertook to build a national network of leaders committed encouraging union activism around the war.

 

On March 16, a diverse crowd estimated at 7,000 to 10,000 people converged in downtown Chicago to protest the war. The rally drew large numbers of Muslim women, Africans, and Latinos, as well as the congregations of several African-American churches who came to the rally in busloads following Sunday services. Chicago JwJ led turnout efforts - they contacted members through telephone and e-mail, served as a pick up point for rally flyers and other materials, and reached out in particular to communities of color. Dr. Rev. Calvin Morris of the Community Renewal Society, a Chicago JwJ Workers’ Rights Board member and National JwJ Board member, emceed the rally. Speakers includedTom Balanoff of SEIU Local 1, Gerald Zero of IBT Local 705, Elwood Flowers of STU, Lynn Talbott of UNITE!, James Thwinda of Chicago JwJ, and radio host and author Studs Terkel.[top]

 

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Give it back to Jaque

http://www.giveitback.net/

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: NYC
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Gouge: "Freedom needs her poets; it is they who give her aspirations wings, and to the wiser law of music sway her wild imaginings." -James Russell Lowell

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Joe - Indeed a small world. I am still in periodic e-mail touch with Richie in NY and who still warms my heart in a way that few people in my life have done. I can also say (as I did in the book) that he is one of the most intelligent and intuitive people I have ever had the pleasure of meetng. Though I never met his brother - and if you will - please give him my regards just the same. Thanks so much for giving the book a read.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Woke this morning oddly at peace and wondering if the war had started. Strange. I can't help but wonder why such a sudden change after having to talk myself down every morning lately. Sure isn't cause I got things together here. Passed by a lot of folks with American flags and signs (no oil for blood..etc) blocking EXXON this early this morning. Ahh I can't tell you how good that made me feel! Cops were there in force an hr later. But the message was given and I hollered thank you. In retrospect I suppose I should have joined them after all I have been feeling. It seemed the most powerful statement opposed to just standing on the street. In a small town like this most actions just seem to be so impotent to the big picture. But there is a man that keeps showing up at the court house with his No War sign. That also must be seeping into folks psychi.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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In solidarity with Gouge - Poets on every corner!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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In silidarity with Gouge - Poets on every corner!

Name: Mort Subiet
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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"In war - everyone becomes a casualty" -2003 Mort Subiet

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Hammond I started reading your book.....what boy hasnt been threatened at one time or another with military school? I work with Richie Haven brother Carl in the fire department....small world....it is very entertaining

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Never had much truck with Marxists, they just had no sense of humor. The neighborhood Red was throwing a party, May Day, or Karl's birthday, or something. I shouldn't have gone, but the promise of free beer and smoke drew me. There was our host in his uniform of jeans, motorcycle jacket and boots, earnestly drunk. A young lovely sat on the couch, a bottle of cheap wine in her fist. I squeezed in next to her, to talk. 'Oh, I'm not a Marxist', she said, 'I'm a Dadaist!' When I asked if she really read Tristan Tzara, she said 'Who?'. She didn't seem quite as lovely as I thought. Copping a joint and a couple beers, I headed out the door.

Last weekend I headed down to Peace Park for the rally, with my chopped off silver hair and jacket from an older war. Some cop in a van snapped my picture. A Chicano poet was on stage, reading his work. The crowd milled, polite, but never caught fire.

I can't remember when a poem fucked me against the bar room wall, my lips bloody by her teeth, cock aching in her hungry, full hips, sweet she-spunk burning into my skin. A long time since I've heard that flat slap cool beat, Camera Three cadence swelling into flaming hoofbeats on the sky. Shining words spat, shattering display windows, smashing plaster mannequin sneers, spilling the goods out onto the streets. Words like stone knives slitting sacred cow bellies, stinking offal on temple floors.

There was a time, poets were warriors. We need them today, on every streetcorner.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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I hate to break the news but it appears that war has begun in earnest -

London Flash http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/til/jsp/modules/Article/print.jsp?itemId=3895393

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Hey; I just heard on the answering machine that a gal is going to try to get some space here at the Peace Church next Thursday for a press conference with Ramsey Clark and his anti-war gang. I hope that it all pans out. I want to shake that cat's hand. Will keep you New Yorker's posted.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Good Man Sponge.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Dr. Sponge -

Now thats the sort of entry that is well appreciated here and my thanks for posting it. By "IT" do you mean International Times underground newspaper from 60s London? I can see the front page now from back then - with brave marchers arm in arm solidarity - then in the face of nearly world wide opposition. If 100 spontaneous school children can shut down Liverpool there is great hope for civil disobedience in America.

God Bless The Child!

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

100 school children in their early teens skipped school today and brought Liverpool city centre to a standstill by just sitting down and blocking the main arteries to the city. There anti war protest was completely effective as chaos hit liverpool. The police where completely flumoxed as this unanounced protest seemed to be happening without any clear leadership or organisation.P'haps the police should invest in some IT training to try and keep up with this generation.Great to see these teenagers taking affermative action.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Yes I believe French people wouldn't mind if we lose the name "French" from our fries, I love my relatives on that side of the family but they do consider us here to be cooking-challenged. However I think French fries as a name will stick, freedom fries will go the way of alot of silly slogans being heard today. C'est la vie, what it is is what it is.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Renaming french fries freedom fries will only please the French , they have a horror of American cuisine as it is and are only to happy to distance themselves from our cultural malapropism's of their language and heritage. I for one feel the French are acting as a friend by not endorsing our mad rush to war at the behest of a trigger happy preppie who wouldn't even honor his committment to the reserves during the Vietnam era. A friend will tell you when your wrong and not mince words like a groveling synchophant.He'll also point out your miscreant behavior to others.

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: wearing the green
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

A quote for you, says it better than I could, followed by a link to the full article --

Confronting Our Fears So We Can Confront the Empire by Robert Jensen

 

I am finally ready to admit what for months I have kept hidden: I am terrified.

I am more scared than I have ever been in my adult life. For weeks now I have felt a new kind of free-floating terror at what has been unfolding, as the Bush administration has made it clear that nothing would derail its mad rush to war.

Until now, I have not spoken of it. In organizing meetings or talks to community groups or rally speeches, I held back. The task was to build the antiwar movement, and I worried that talking too much about my fear might undermine that. People need to feel empowered, hopeful, I told myself; we should be talking about the potential of the movement.

That hasn't changed. We have to continue to build the movement, which has enormous potential over the long-term to turn this society away from war and profit, toward peace and the needs of people. We cannot abandon our commitment to the people of the world, the work of education and organizing that we all must do if we are to make good on that commitment.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0318-09.htm

 

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

At least he's speaking up...

Walter Cronkite Slams War

AP reports, "U.S. invasion of Iraq would destroy the UN, former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite said, [adding] a U.S. invasion would plunge this country into financial chaos... 'We have shown arrogance, almost an egotism, in our conduct of foreign policy so that we have alienated most of our former allies in the world,' Cronkite said. 'I think (it) is going to get us in very serious trouble.' The 86-year-old Cronkite, who was the anchor of the CBS Evening News from 1962-81, asked why American troops couldn't remain on Iraq's doorstep. They would be ready to respond instantly if Saddam showed evidence of atomic, biological or chemical weapons, he said. Cronkite also warned that the cost of the war and its aftermath, coupled with Bush's proposed tax cuts, would leave a national debt 'that our grandchildren's grandchildren will be paying for. That's a terrible legacy for any generation to leave.'"

Name: curios is as curious does
EmailAddress: corporal of the guard, post number one
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Don't know what happened there Eric, you may of course feel free to delete all but one of my multiple entries--I think that it is said once, might be sufficient..................T

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: Concord and Lexington
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Just going on the record as opposing the war confronting us;but, reminding that the right to vigorous even deadly force, as a defence, is given to all life, and that the badly misunderstood concepts of Karma abroad have, unfortunately, also found a harbor here. When you are in the company of people who are voicing views absolutely antithetical to your beliefs, what better teaching moment could you have. Where is your voice, intellect, argument (complete with small notebook containg cited facts, statistics, and personal references)--where is your theatre, and finally where is your camp--some of these people will find the journey to it long and arduous...........................Travis UAW/MF

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: Concord and Lexington
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Just going on the record as opposing the war confronting us;but, reminding that the right to vigorous even deadly force, as a defence, is given to all life, and that the badly misunderstood concepts of Karma abroad have, unfortunately, also found a harbor here. When you are in the company of people who are voicing views absolutely antithetical to your beliefs, what better teaching moment could you have. Where is your voice, intellect, argument (complete with small notebook containg cited facts, statistics, and personal references)--where is your theatre, and finally where is your camp--some of these people will find the journey to it long and arduous...........................Travis UAW/MF

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: Concord and Lexington
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Just going on the record as opposing the war confronting us;but, reminding that the right to vigorous even deadly force, as a defence, is given to all life, and that the badly misunderstood concepts of Karma abroad have, unfortunately, also found a harbor here. When you are in the company of people who are voicing views absolutely antithetical to your beliefs, what better teaching moment could you have. Where is your voice, intellect, argument (complete with small notebook containg cited facts, statistics, and personal references)--where is your theatre, and finally where is your camp--some of these people will find the journey to it long and arduous...........................Travis UAW/MF

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: Concord and Lexington
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Just going on the record as opposing the war confronting us;but, reminding that the right to vigorous even deadly force, as a defence, is given to all life, and that the badly misunderstood concepts of Karma abroad have, unfortunately, also found a harbor here. When you are in the company of people who are voicing views absolutely antithetical to your beliefs, what better teaching moment could you have. Where is your voice, intellect, argument (complete with small notebook containg cited facts, statistics, and personal references)--where is your theatre, and finally where is your camp--some of these people will find the journey to it long and arduous...........................Travis UAW/MF

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: Concord and Lexington
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Just going on the record as opposing the war confronting us;but, reminding that the right to vigorous even deadly force, as a defence, is given to all life, and that the badly misunderstood concepts of Karma abroad have, unfortunately, also found a harbor here. When you are in the company of people who are voicing views absolutely antithetical to your beliefs, what better teaching moment could you have. Where is your voice, intellect, argument (complete with small notebook containg cited facts, statistics, and personal references)--where is your theatre, and finally where is your camp--some of these people will find the journey to it long and arduous...........................Travis UAW/MF

Name: Auntie
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Mar 2003

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Any souls traveling through airports, please, please be scrupulously clean. don't bring anything that even resembles paraphernalia etc. Trust that the goddess will provide when you arrive.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd
Date: 19 Mar 2003

Comments

Oh Ya Ohio Girl; "Home Alone". Just me and Cawdia the church cat. Good company. I can see it now. Moving Nik's bed into the center of the sanctuary, piping the Ol' CD player over the P.A. system. World's biggest bed room???...could be some kinda' record. Hey Eileen; thank you. I could use an attitude adjustment right about now. Hey all; I heard about the french fries being called "Freedom" fries. Hell, us old timmers remember when "French" was a term for oral sex; that being said: "Hey George,....ahh..forget it! Hey I just heard that the Pope busted Dubbya's balls. (dontcha' hate when that happens?) Although it seems that there are more open air walkers (good weather again?)...New York is very silent tonight. The street folks are really spooked about going anywhere near the subways. (and I aint talkin' about the fare increase). It's 48 hours to Fear City. Hey, the stock market rose upon news of the war dead line. Blood money? (think about it)

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: just read the Eisenhower quotation
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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It's awesome that Eisenhower the WW2 general said that. That was the WW2 lesson we forgot but France remembered (although maybe we are making France forget it too). Peace

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Does it ever enter the minds of the numbed of brain there are those that are not likely to take this laying down and may do some direct action of their own in this country? I think most folks are still assuming the battle is going to stay saftly away from us. Perhaps it will..but to act like we can stand here saftly and poke the dog with a stick...duuh

Steve just found my note to you on my kitchen table. Oh well, you'll figure it out.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Mark, That's one of the things that really bothers me, that the United Nations WAS trying to solve this by rising above the cycle of violence. And I really noticed today, that a kind of violence is happening right here in the U.S. in how divided people's opinions are on this issue. Violence circles us downwards....karma. I went walking today in jeans and t-shirt minus the coat and hat and gloves and boots and all that, and came in from my walk in the sun and wondered what new horrors were awaiting when I turned on the TV news.

Steve--good plan!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress: Howfarhave@wecome.com
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick schoolhouse in more than 30 cities. It is two fine fully equipped hospitals. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of war, it is humanity on a cross of iron." Dwight D. Eisenhower (Speech to the American Socity of Newspaper Editors, 4/16/53)

 

 

Name: Mc O'  wot the fuck
EmailAddress: cowering before the shit storm
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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At least I feel at home here .. bad as the latest news is ..only thing for me to think is -- another cycle .. and the Iron law of karma cannot be bribed .. So stay strong, there'a another day coming .. Say a prayer for the innocents who suffer from the depravity of the ignorant. No-one can say we ourselves [Gaelic 'Sinn Fein'] have not struggled for peace & justice. ( I mean the Diggers by that.) One more harsh thought -- Santayana: "Only the dead have seen the end of war."

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Sorry, I ain't done yet.

Nowhere in the media that bombards this country from the right or the not-so-right, from all the noise that rails about Iraq do I hear or read about the real issue. War is no longer an option for our world. This is no longer just a moral issue but a practical one. The threats presented by Saddam and his like will not go away; they will continue to come forward exhibiting the darker side of human existence. How these spasms of violence are dealt with as a planet community is the real issue. I haven't heard or read much mainstream discussion on rising above the cycle of violence. All I hear from most is a Wyatt Earp, Rambo, Terminator, and thug brain-dead drivel about vengance and dominance. I don't get it. It seems the idea of striving to rise above violence as a viable tool for cultural communication is completely forgotten about. Saddam is a disgusting, murdering, mutilating freak that needs to be dealt with but using violence, the vehicle of his own depravity, killing innocents in order to accomplish that, is narrow, old and morally bankrupt thinking. This is common knowledge but this thirst for violence has a harrowing implication of entertainment. Lets fight. Lets fight. Be angry and let some blood. Money, blood, power, arrogance. God Bless fucking amerika. Play ball!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Here is a co-workers observation. Bush says "Saddam and his sons must leave Iraq in 48 hours or face military oblivion." so that means please forget about the daughters, we'll take care of them.

Eileen, head banging is nearer than I like to admit. The frustration level is so high. If I hear "We must rally around the president" one more time I am goin' blow a gasket. Fucking democrats suck, spineless greedy bastards. They are waiting until it is over because they can't win now. Then I just read the "who made the most money" issue of Rolling Stone magazine. The Stones play a private birthday party for 7 million bucks? Elton John does these private little tidbits all year long for 500K a pop. Where the hell does all this money go? Talk about sold out, where are these folks heads at. They do this stuff but can't say shit about the war? This is a really bad wind.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Steve~ FINALLY your package is really in the mail as of this afternoon.

Out at lunch today overheard..god I wish I hadn't some ameriken ladies have their deep and intelligent discussion as it was announced loud and clear ..I don't know but we are AMERICANS (that was the hook) and we need to support..blah blah blah as I stuck my head up to my good ear and went la la la la to save myself from banging my head or hers on the table. It went on from there until the ignored up to that point obviouys forigner at the table spoke up and said what needed to be said and was given the polite silent treatment later no doubt to be blackballed from any more lunchons. Miranda drug me out before I lost it entirely. I'm telling you I am loosing it I am so beyond angry. So I drink my rum and continue to pack and refocus and do my best to black this out yet here it bubbles up again. Saw this guy banging his head against a wall on purpose on some skate board vedio and I got to tell you I won't do it but it's how I'm feeling about this whole situation. hhhaagh those white people. they make my skin crawl.

still working through my stuff for one last sale SAt. found home for last dog. now we got the cat, chicken, and fish. bus going up to S Humboldt tomorrow. one foot in front of the other. just get me out of here and near some dark skinned people even if they hate me it will be a relief

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Night watchman....good idea....what are they doing....emptying the place pending "repairs"? We ran into a landlord on 110St. who took out the bearing wall to get everyone out of the building...ah real estate in NYC...right up there with politicians ....no offense nicole

Name: me again
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Nik, some links to the music; http://www.ely.com/Super7.html

http://www.johnfahey.com

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Nicole, my pleasure. Glad you like it. Gracias por la suerta.

Name: fungus  amongus
EmailAddress: from outer space
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Hieronymus Bosch couldn't have painted it better .. the 'Hell' section of the "Garden of Earthly Desire" .. as it is gin must stand in for horse here .. just got on my personal train .. the Oblivion Express .. and you my brethren & sistren ?

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Hey You Know Who: Thats what gets me about Dr. Sponge. One minute he is a freedom fighting Union Person and the next minute a bubble-fart-popping quink. That stupid horse shit that he tries to shove up everyones ass gives the Union People in General a black eye. The Doctor lost the best freind that he could have had when he tried to burn my shit-house down. Mental Illnes??? Go figure.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Hey Hammond; I may be able to put you up in high style when you hit the city after all. Having given the matter much thought (who me?) I was planning on dropping the radical look and disguising myself as a straight citizen (suit and brief case etc.) living on the subway and studying the humans while rotating four three piece suits in two diferent dry cleaners (one clean change per week, plus various other details); Anyway; It dawned on me that my way of thinking may have been somewhat pussyfied by close contact with so many Christians these last two years. That being said; I changed my train of thought from: "What would Jesus do?" to "What would Emmitt do?". And heres what I came up with; Im' (hustling) pitching the angle to the New Reverend of staying on here as a caretaker/night watchman after the place closes up. (same deal: free rent for work). This would no doubt set well with the Insurance Company (as oppossed to leaving both blds. vacant.) What with the war about to rage; I feel the need for sanctuary more strongly that ever. Will keep you posted as my new sceme unfolds. Keep up the writting Mister. "Write On".....P.S. "Everyman needs four walls" -Charles Buckowski

Name: You Know Who Dr.
EmailAddress: exposure.com
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Okay enough. My junk mail filter just caught something from you - Dr. Sponge - with some (undoubtedly silly) picture attached that would not play in my junk pile - I am happy to receive your notes here Sponge - but you have been exiled from my personal e-mail .

Dr. Sponge Exposed for those who care:

From: ROBERTRobbieG@aol.com Subject: Dr Sponge Apic to compliment your poem

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Considering that Iraq received the raw materials for their weapons of mass destruction from France (Germany and the US) - it comes as no surprise that the same Frence bio-chemico-teams would want to "help out" - as below -

Sort of like the reverse-twin of the Haliburton buring oil clean-up crew.

French ambassador Jean-David Levitte said: "If Saddam Hussein were to use chemical and biological weapons, this would change the situation completely and immediately for the French government." Mr Levitte said a decision on any French participation in the war would be made by French President Jacques Chirac, if and when biological or chemical weapons were used. Although he declined to give details on the possible shape of French participation, Levitte said, "We have equipment to fight in these circumstances."

 

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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actually I have a cassette player on my desk so now I'm really transported to the southwest...the mexican music just finished and now I'm listening to Deportee...muchas gracias mi amigo, y buenas suerte in tu vida y en tu suenos!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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Hi Gouge, my package just arrived! Thank you so much...I just love that stuff...with my office window wide open due to phenomenol weather...and the smell of the sage, why, I can close my eyes and I'm on the hill in Tesuchi just above Alices house watching the dogs try and pull low branches off the pinion trees...yes Bob, thank you so so much...and I'll play the tape later on after work...Nik

Name: FYI - Service Blurt
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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(from) Stew Albert's Daily Word (today)

Let's Party

 

Bush’s Bloodbathist Party is beginning to celebrate. Tomorrow, bombs begin blowing up our future.

I was taking a morning walk exercising a damaged heart, it wasn’t a peace march, and a neighbor passed me snarling “Why did he give Saddam an ultimatum? They’ll go into Iraq even if he leaves.” And I reply “Cowboy talk plays well in America.” She repeated her remark several times and sped up her furious pace.

If we really mean it about hating France, let’s give back the Statue of Liberty better yet melt her down for bullets.

 

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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I seems I am becoming the 'unofficial' (poetic)-cub-reporter for CounterPunch Magazine - from today - asever - H.

In The Meantime http://www.counterpunch.org/guthrie03182003.html

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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As predicted the domino effect, caused by Cooks resignation, in the house of commons has now started with more Mp's and ministers resigning.This will seriously damage Blairs credibility as a leader and demonstrates a huge swing to the left for British politics.Hopefuly this trend will escalate to critical mass and lead to the UK pulling out of the war,(is this a very British cou?) unfortunatly the French have indicated a change in attitude and could possibly do a U turn on their anti war stance by today announcing that they would aid the war effort if Sadam uses bio-chemical weapons.FOR MORE INFO http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,916563,00.html

 

Name: brief-update
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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3 British Ministers have resigned from Blair's cabinet over the impending military action in Iraq and Saddam and his son Uday of course refuse to leave Iraq.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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hmmmmm I was just thinking...wasn't it Spain on the west coast and England on the east coast that took this land away from it's indiginous people in the first place? I guess it figures then...and some how I don't think it was the common people who approved of this, but the big guns in government who just wanted MORE...

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

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...it's so hard feeling so fantastic because the deep freeze is gone and it's beautiful outside, birds are back, snow is gone, sun is shining... crocus blooming...but...war is looming, wives are crying, politicians lying, soon boys and girls dying...meanwhile, we are all trying to be heard above the bullshit of the media...screaming against silence is very difficult...like screaming into an coming hurricane...all I really know is what doesn't come out in the wash, comes out in the rinse and George, let me tell you...Karma is a motherfucker.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 18 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Iraqi soldier, refuse to fight and get shot in the head, and then we won't have to kill you. And now they are saying nyah, nyah, nyah right back at us. Then there are all those descriptions (many of them right in the speech itself!) of the terrors that might be unleashed, and of the dangers we should watch for or be prepared to sacrifice for, in the name of making us safer (??). And so what if along the way, we take down the government of our greatest ally? I should have stayed at work, the people with Alzheimers make more and more sense the more you learn what their words mean, unlike this which makes less and less sense the better you understand it.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

just one word Saddam "Oil".

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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Just one word Saddam "Suntan".

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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When the framers of our constitution convened I hardly think they had the interest's of Haliburton, or Exxon in mind. Which is all our President or Vice president have in mind at this time. By the way I hear over and over in the "liberal" media how more than fifty percent of Americans support this war, yet I have yet to hear of more than 500 "patriots" gathering to support military action. I have seen literally millions come out against it. When is this massive pro-war lobby going to make its presence known?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: oops
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

No not worrier either..close though. Warrior. But you knew that.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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A few things chewing on my ass tonight I have to get off my chest..humm how is that possible you may ask? A few lines..the Security Council has not done it's job..like going along with Georges plans. Oh I cringed at that. And how about getting SH before he can get stronger etc. This is what has been in my mind all along. Get the country totally disarmed and then attack. And telling the soldiers not to fight. And the tone of his voice? Who the heck has been givng him voice lessons? Weird wasn't it? In kid games can't you hear it?..CHEATER! Cept this ain't no kid's game. And you know that part of me? The one with the cross in the forhead? I'm having a hard time with it tonight cause the anger I feel is deep and violent wanting to see terrible reprocussions for "this country" being so arrogant..and I live here along with the rest of us in harms way. As a worrior I would be willing to do anything to take this man and this country down. And if I'm feeling that way and I live here... No it's not even anger. It's rage. It's rage.

Name: McMingus
EmailAddress: future ex-terrestrial
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

WTF ?? -- Well this contender ain't been disqualified yet. I'm comin back with Winstanley, Kesey, Ringolevio & some others strictly underground & fix this shit right. AND PERMANENT. Ya get me ?

Text of Robin Cook's resignation letter, you can learn more from links within this piece : http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,9061,916145,00.html

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

I posted twice excuse my ineptness, I'm new to this.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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Jury duty can be a prism to societies moore's, I got called in 76, (I think I voted for Carter, God I miss him, who knew?) small county, south of Portland, OR, they had a system in place where they took the entire jury pool and had a lottery for the 9 seats available for the Grand Jury! I have'nt had a winning lottery ticket since that day! What a surreal two months, no questions asked, just rubber stamp the D.A.'s latest prosecutorial pet peeves. Heard a lot of excuses for blind acceptence and "He must be guilty,the DA say's so" I think we refused his request for an indictment only once, some poor schmuck thought he could grow two plant's in his apt. window box and not be noticed. I was at least proud that we could agree not to nail this naive soul. Just heard the new's, War in 48 hours! I think I knew this yesterday.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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Jury duty can be a prism to societies moore's, I got called in 76, (I think I voted for Carter, God I miss him, who knew?) small county, south of Portland, OR, they had a system in place where they took the entire jury pool and had a lottery for the 9 seats available for the Grand Jury! I have'nt had a winning lottery ticket since that day! What a surreal two months, no questions asked, just rubber stamp the D.A.'s latest prosecutorial pet peeves. Heard a lot of excuses for blind acceptence and "He must be guilty,the DA say's so" I think we refused his request for an indictment only once, some poor schmuck thought he could grow two plant's in his apt. window box and not be noticed. I was at least proud that we could agree not to nail this naive soul. Just heard the new's, War in 48 hours! I think I knew this yesterday.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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OPEN LETTER TO GEORGE BUSH: George, Im' giving you 48 Hrs. to get out of Washington DC. ....Ahh.....on second thought,...make that America. P.S. I think that even the Iraq's are smart enough to realize that its Texas who's attacking them and not America. (Think about it) This "Get Out Of Dodge" shit is like a grade B Western Film.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

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Funny how things go. I was selected for jury duty in my neck of the woods this week and got called in today to go through the selection process for a trial. The problem was that the trial was for possession of heroin. I live in a "liberal community" but folks, given my history, it wasn't looking good for me. I have been here and raised my kids for 38 years. My kids are very involved and are known well around here. The jury pool was a good representation of folks(parents,teachers,physicians) from the area. You can imagine some of the questions used to expose and disqualify prospective jurors. It has been a tough day. I escaped and with some of my dignity. What a day. Shit!

Bush, what fucking dumbass. Weather forecast for Wed. is a major sandstorm in Iraq, which is the beginning of the sandstorm season for them.

Robin Cook's resignation is great, but it isn't getting much coverage here and we need some of the Bush cabinet to fall out to get some traction in the US.

Hey, maybe I can do some direct action now and get arrested again.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: intuit777@hotmail.com
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

How can a nation be led down this path by a preppie cowboy with no nose for war save his puppet masters desires? If Cheeny or "Rummy" didn't make him dance his old man would. This reeks of "Old boy networking" and business as usual politics. Its a sad sad day in our town when this crap can pass as politics.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge,

That's one of the most interesting (and hopeful) messages I've seen in days. Sorry I deleted your posts a few days ago, but it's hard to reconcile those messages with the one you sent today. I wish I knew who you really are.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole -- (and Hammond),

The page counter on the top-level page here comes with the Microsoft Frontpage server extensions. Many web space providers offer support for Frontpage. You should check and see if that's the case with your providers. Then, if you're interested in using Frontpage to manage your websites (highly recommended, in my opinion) then you'll need to get a copy of the s/w, install it on your local (office and/or home) computers and have your web provider switch your site to a Frontpage-compatible web. From then on, you will be able to design your web pages to include all the very useful tools in Frontpage, including page counters, navigation bars, shared borders, themes, forms, discussion webs, etc. etc. Let me know if you have any questions. I've been using FP for several years and love it. Have taught many how to use it.

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Former secretary of state for foreign affairs and leader of the house of commons (uk parliament) Robin Cook has just anounced that he is resigning his parliamentary possition as a protest agains the war.The gist of Cooks speach is that Britain is being led by the nose by Bush and the whole affair is a diplomatic shambles that could easily be avoided.I will post a link to his remarkable speach as soon as I find it.This is a major blow to the parliamentary war mongers as Cook is part of Blairs inner circle and this form of discent can only be viewed as absoloute bankable whistleblowing by a trusted colleague of the Priminister.Cook openly said in his speach that "this country is not being led by this house (parliament) but by the bush administration.This may be causing a domino effect as Clair Short told the press that she will consider handing in her resignation tomorrow.Hopefuly and quite probably this will seriously damage the credibility, especialy when you consider that his main body of support is from the Tories, of Tony Blair and force him to stand down as prime minister and leader of the labour party thus denying Bush an invaluable ally .

Name: IMAM(Revisited)
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

I bet if by twist of fate (tonight and before his speech pattern hits the air) One billion viewers turned off their televisions sets at 5pm and left them off for 24 hours Bush would hear about it from the networks running around in his maniacial brain! IMAM(Revisited)

 

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond I don't mean you, I enjoyed your poem! I mean how the TV news is spending a whole bunch of time on the Dixie Chicks, for example CNN had people answering a poll about them, they are being used as propaganda and little coverage is given to protests. Just because someone unexpected speaks against a war (they didn't have a whole lot to say about Neil Young protesting). Poor Chicks have got their necks on the chopping block.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Eric - Me too! - but only if it is a free counter - ideally where I don't have to put their logo click on my front page. I lost the one I had - a really good one but now they charge monthly and I don't get enough traffic to justify any expense - and besides The 3rd Page is 100% FREE! Tx.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Yeah, thanks Hammond.

Eric, can you tell me how to get a counter put on my company web site?

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: survivors fan club!
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole - The photo you sent (never mind the guy for now) - In it your eyes and expression are very telling of that time in your life - vs. the beaming life and spirit as they express today. So glad you made it....H.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Afternoon all, I always have so much catching up to do on Monday...at lunch i walked over to Fifth ave to watch the parade...only had time for the fireman...then back to the office...I spent the weekend in up state in Saugerties and woodstock, it was so lovely...snow all around the river frozwn but warm enough to sit in the sun...I picked an arm load of pussy willows and left them there on the kitchen table...damn! anyway comments on the week-ends posts...heroin. one of the things I did was write a good bye letter to my "lover" it helped, but short of going through it to the very depths of hell, it was always calling...no longer though, I can finally say...25/30 years was quite enough...One day Albert Grossman picked up Emmett, Peter and I in a limo and took us out for lunch or something...you know treated us like royalty introducing us to all of his music biz cronies and at some restaurant, the two "boys" went off somewhere for a minute and came back nodding and puking and just plain fucked up, I remember being jealous of them at the time...can you believe that?...now it just seems so embaressing. So happy those days are gone...the nature of the beast is to keep and create chaos in the life of the user...it just stops all real emotional feelings...clogs the chakras so to speak...blocks the door to any interaction with reality...but of course those experiences got me to this very spot I'm standing in so I relaly can't say I have real regrets. Mostly, wasted time.

IMAM, I know we will recognize your spirit no matter what name you use...we all have distinct voices here it seems. With Warm Regards all, Nik

Name: PS - Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

I know I seem to be 'full of it' these daze - but nonetheless CounterPunch magazine seems to like my chops - So I share them again here - and did any of you see the article about the acitivists on London who invaded (and temporarily halted) the UK Petroleum Exchange? - This is action in motion! - AsEver - H.

"On The Waterfront!" http://www.counterpunch.org/guthrie03172003.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Ohio Girl - Okay (even though I love thier voices) I dusted the Dixies as a vehicle to take a few more shots at Bush before he goes to war (Not In Our Names!). But enough said for now and I promise not to bash them again - I hope they win another grammy.!. - Speaking of country music - have any of you noticed how some (can't think of a name) country musicians are (in a sense) co-opting 60s guitar licks and near-pschedelic rhythm structures in current songs? I channel surf to the good ole boys and girls station on a regular basis (Okay I confess - I am actually trying to hit on the Dixie Girls!). I am amazed at times at the musical proficiency and ad-lib bridge work - yet, the lyrics remain the same vs. the song (Led Zep they are not - but hey who is?) Best of the day to everyone. The sun is out in Portland.....

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Thanks Eric!

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

Just discovered what caused the formatting problems yesterday. It was the long URL for the article in the Telegraph newspaper. Note to myself: when someone complains about weird formatting, open Frontpage and view the guestbook.htm file in edit mode. If the table scrolls horizontally, look for long URLs and edit them in the guestlog file.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: teach your children well
Date: 17 Mar 2003

Comments

I love the weather, I hate the news, with features such as "Countdown to War," and giving more coverage to Dixie Chick bashing and French bashing than to protesters. Having whipped up the media, can they back off now without disappointing their public?

So I thought of something funny, before I go outside and enjoy the sunshine. When I lived in Athens, Ohio and my kids were little, we used to go see the Hoxie Brothers Circus when they came through each year. Sometimes they were awesome and sometimes not, but they were always up-close and personal, a very different experience than seeing a big-time circus. One year I shelled out the extra money for a sideshow exhibit that was supposed to be a mermaid. Well we get inside the tent, and there in a long glass box was a dead person, an old, dry, flaky dusty mummified corpse. And it was unmistakably a male. Well I was so horrified, I had just actually paid to show my young children this horrid thing that would no doubt cast a pall over their lives. Maybe they wouldn't realize what it was, that was my only hope. Then my older child, who was seven or eight I think, spoke up in a voice loud enough to be heard by one and all. "Mommy, that can't be a mermaid. It has a peter."

Name: collateral damage
EmailAddress: another nom de plume
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen, Zorba was the main feature. A great inspiration to my boho Christian Socialist parents .. of course I remember the scene you describe. Truly frightening.

Name: ?????
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

What happened to the page? Seems to have lost format - Eric?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Yea that X burned into my forehead didn't slow them down in the least.(just joking around wid ja)

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen, Im out of firefighting on the 29th on a medical disability...lungs...like I said im pretty good at massage, and at messages too for that matter, and have strong fingers....I'll have to get some training etc. Sounds like you were overun by the savage hordes....I hate when that happens

Name: Patrick
EmailAddress: 1day@ a X
Date: 16 Mar 2003

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Boy oh boy, I remember the last baloon {from that run anyway} Leavin"Berkley heading to Garberville with a righteous ol" freek named Smokey to kick. Whew stopped at a few wine tasting rooms on the way , Did'nt help much, felt sicker after. Took us almost 48 hour to drive 300 miles. Must have been around 1972. Junk don't care about nothin' but junk. Wasted days in line at the clinic for methadone from coast to coast.Some of us do recover, If we don't die or kill our spirit by some of the obscene actions and rationalizations addiction dictates.I feel fortunate that I am clean today.I like that line from the Eagle's Sad Cafe song, "I don't know why fortune smiles on some and lets the rest go free". God help us when this war starts that persian smack will be back with a vengence.I saw that fuck-wad Ollie North on tv over in the mideastt some where. Probably already setting up some deals. New title same story, "The politics of oil and heroin in mideast Europe" Right on! JAG and Eileen loved what you had to say. Patrick

Name: NY Friend
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

This from the Telegraph UK - Iraqi resistance in the works! One can only hope this is true vs. western press propaganda

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main... (link shortened for formatting)

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

IMAM,

Don't go to far. We be here. I for one am hopeful even at this dark point. This will become a larger struggle and push has come to shove. The streets will become full of angry citizens, the chanting Buddhists will do their part, and the left will define itself more clearly. The fight for the identity of the American culture is at hand and this battle is being played very clearly on a international level. Bush will become Saddam.

Name: FYI - Poetry
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

"Dixie Dust" - CounterPunched on Sunday http://www.counterpunch.org/poems03152003.html

IMAM - come back and be free. You have a great voice.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

IMAM~ I have missed the fact you are leaping out of here. I will be gone soon for awhile as well. It has been quit pleasant having you here and I hope you will come back and we can meet again here refreshed and ready for the next round. What's next? So far the good fight is going on and I think there as those that will find it a calling just as with the enviornment movement. And yes that must continue as well. Summer is just around the corner which will likely bring even more people out. I hope everyone is figuring out they must be prepared for things to get rough once they realize we are not going to go away. If what has taken place for the enviornmental folks in the past is any indication we best suit up for battle with our music and street theater. It could be one of our more creative times to look back on. We always seem to do our best when push comes to shove.

Name: IMAM(Revisted)
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Dear All - The world is just a breath away from the future. I guess the big question I have is: What happens next? Do we watch it all unfold on TV as we did with Desert Storm and Operation Afghanistan - or will the protests continue - growing in size and determination? Acts of civil disobedience to clogstop the machine will only work if thousands upon thousands take action as random individual acts will not do the trick - 30,000 fasting gandhis chained together need to camp out on the White House lawn to make much of an impact I think....

PS-I will return as another or perhaps myself! - but - If I haven't said it clearly enough in notes gone by - let me here again express my heartfelt thanks to Steve, Nicole, Eileen, Mark, Ohio Girl, r n a and everyone unnamed for your virtual friendships.(Nevermind the Sproge!) - I have learned so much here - and hope I have left a few worthy footprints. Love and Peace and Hope to one and all.......

Anonyomously yours - IMAM - (Suspect)

 

Name: savedbythebell
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

The "tail-end of the Haight" was made of ugly dragon's breath and henbane. This is a legacy the 60s could have done without - but couldn't. Heroin addiction is the mother of all downhill runs - with speed a close second. So many are suffering from Hep C and the aftermath of this tail end of things gone by - Let us pray for a univeral cure

Blessing to all of you wonderful Digger folks!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Just one more quick one as I get on with my day. Ypu know those signals that are best not ignored? I went to chant and found someone had gotten into my butsadan (the box that holds my scroll) and picked up the golden crane that holds the bottom of the scroll in place and the crane had come apart. I imagine they were so surprised at what probably looked like they broke it that they shut things back up with the piece still resting st the bottom. I am really glad they didn't do more. But it made me realize I have to take this sale entirely into the workshop or load the rest all in the bus and sell off the road. Anyway put up not sale signs and am going out for coffee..now I can go back to being mean, thank you very much.

About junk and your observations Mark..as usual I totally agree with your thoughts. I like the tone here everyone has followed with here I think we all know the trip by now.

Joe..so what's making you switch gears? I have the prime message table for sale. Too bad you don't live closer. I got it off eBay, might look there or ask at your local hot tub/sauna place for adds.

Name: JAG
EmailAddress: intuit777@hotmail.com
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Junk is a pervasive friend, I found out, I wound down, down, down. To regain a semblence of sanity and family is a major occurance. Eileen said it well. I have only asked cause I find myself so removed from those days I must want to pay that price again! Well it aint never gonna happen. From forest fires in B.C. to phosphorous on the beach with a head fulla purple haze, its never coming back. I only caught the tail end of the Haight, but it set me on aroad I traveled long, bittersweet memories of moonlit nights in the forests of the Northwest, the beachs of the tropics, and the solace of ones inner dialogue whispering "This has to be right", only knowing I can lie with the best of them. John

Name: hands helping hands
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Joe - Good choice! There are so many essential techniques to explore from Rolphing to the gentler side - and remember this at least ten times a day: "Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands" and "let your spirit be your guide." - a helping hand

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Well Im gonna have to start looking for a new career..does anyone know anything about massage therapy....i have very strong fingers and hands from gripping hoses all these years...and Ive been told that I give good massages though those are a litle bit different circumstances...the sun is out and so will be I.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Remember Zorba the Greek when the widow dies and the women hit the house like vultures taking everything looking through all her stuff throwing things out of windows? That was yesterday from 8:30 to 10:30. We collasped for half a minute before the next wave hit and thought it was the midlle of the afternoon we were so wasted from the intensity of mops of folks asking questions shoving stuff in our face grabbing things and just wanting to talk. add the men to it. People were even taking the dishes out of Miranda's wash water. So far my tent seems to be gone and a crystal out of one of my sulptures of Miranda's. We made huge money..this was not a el cheapo sale and I gave away probably as much..and we still have too much stuff I'm typing this without looking up cause this Zorba movie just popped in my head and it was such a perfect discription. Oh and add I didn't sleep at all through the night before cause there was so much left to do and here it comes again. I must chant so ! I can get through this. I'm not even dringking coffee so I don't hurt anyone by loosing patience. Miranda is still in shock and said she's locking her doors today. They really hit her house hard and when she didn't have anything in a room to sell folks were still taking out her stuff and looking at it. I noticed people were just tripped out by US and seemed to simply want a piece of of. It was actually a very amazing day. But I will be glad to be done today cause I'm starting to feel this move coming on and it's still freaking me out the commitment this is taking. Funny the strong opinions folks have about HI. I hate to tell people anything when they ask where we're going. You'd think I was saying the moon. ok here I go for another day. I really hope it's not as big cause I lost a worker and M is sleeping. Will be intersting at the very least. later...

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

A couple interesting points about the anti-war demonstrations the past two days in San Francisco. The direct action on Friday at the Pacific Coast Stock Exchange was very effective blocking the Montgomery Street financial district for several hours. Unfortunately, all the floor traders got to work at 5:30am, an hour-and-a-half before the first protesters blocked the doors. Nevertheless, the action got good coverage and the quotes that were aired were very articulate. There were 80 protesters arrested for blocking sidewalks and streets. The one protester who got the most coverage, and really a very amazing aspect to this action, was an ex-president of the Stock Exchange. He went through non-violence training the night before, and came dressed in business suit. When asked his reason for getting arrested, he gave this answer: "I'm representing the establishment. And there are a lot of other people out there who feel like I do. Now is the time to take the next step in speaking your conscience."

The other interesting aspect to the past two days was that Black Bloc showed up in numbers yesterday for the big march and rally, but they seemed to have a change of heart in their tactics. They again broke away from the rally and went marching through the streets with dozens of police cars and helicopters attempting to figure out where they were headed. But the big news this time as opposed to last month was that the masked contingent did NOT engage in property damage. They sat down in the middle of several intersections and caused huge disruption to Saturday traffic in the whole Civic Center area. This is good news, if it represents a change in tactics. Non-violent direct action like what we saw Friday at the Stock Exchange and yesterday with Black Bloc is a very important part of our movement. But when we start to have property damage as part of the tactics, our movements inevitably fall apart. I've seen it so many times. Whenever I see property damage coming into a movement, I always look around trying to figure out who are the agents provacateurs.

One of the important aspects of direct action that leads to arrests is that it provides a life-changing moment for the participants. If anyone is thinking about getting arrested and is having a quandary trying to decide, my recommendation is to just DO IT. The group that organized the Stock Exchange action is Direct Action to Stop the War. They are located here:

http://www.actagainstwar.org/

The article in the SF Chronicle about the action is here:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/03/15/BA105060.DTL

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Notes From the WaterFront -

On The Waterfront!

Heading for the Waterfront The tram stops at an empty Pioneer Square Rally point for supporting the War Rain falling on wet pigeons Homeless youth head for the front

It's early - the first wave of survivors Arrive as if to a Love-In In the final moments before the storm

Neil Young croons solo over the PA system "Can we get it together - Can we make it last - Like a musical ride?"

Rhythmic drum's Hemp-Hop natty dread And backstage an unused basketball hoop Reminds me of better days at the Fillmore

Less than magic if diplomacy fails And the 2nd shot heard round the world Puts fire in everyone's eyes

A woman walks by carrying a blue styrofoam peace sign I shudder with revolution at it's real/time half-life Sleeping in a land fill awaiting tomorrow's archeologist And four times the survivors have arrived the waterfront.

A drunk failing his reality test chases a paper scrap on the lawn As if nothing else existed - oblivious to the tide of survivors A tide I become one with - Oil - Oil everyone talkin' bout Oil Everyone smiles and says "Cheese!" for the Security cameras

Somebody is blowing a whistle - a familiar sign passes by "War is Not Healthy - for Children and Other Living Things" I remember first seeing this - an early 60s yellow flower On the day I first read Ginsberg's "HOWL" And thousands of survivors arrive on the WaterFront

Signs of the day:

"Frodo has failed - Bush has the ring!" "Eat Bush - Not War!" "Stop Mad Cowboy Disease" "Duct Tape For Peace!" "What would Jesus Do?"

and I thinkto myself: "Pray with the rest of us?"

None of this matters to those at the helm of Spaceship Earth I wonder who is back at Pioneer Square supporting the War? Helicopters arrive over the pipe and drum of the street Marching with cadence - nothing but survivors in it's wake.

I stop to rest at an empty memorial for American soldiers My bones are older now and tired - My stamina is fading A dog pisses in the ivy near-by and I wonder yet again Who is supporting the War up at Pioneer Square?

I have had quite enough of War and Peace for today I jump on a train heading my way - signs of peace everywhere And when the train passes an empty Pioneer Square I see that no one is supporting the War.

 

 

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

"Junk wins by default" -William Burroughs ("Junky") "Speed is an hightened state of paranoia" -William Burroughs Jr.("Speed")

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: former outsider, still on the night shift
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Gee that was a long night, not one of the fun ones, twelve hours that felt like 24. But all of us employees stepped outside into some warm bright sunshine, really nice, after we clocked out. It's going to be in the sixties or thereabouts every afternoon for the next several days. I hope it's the same in New York!

Junk makes everyone a rip-off artist and destructive to their friends and loved ones, been there. It's an extremely strong influence. I think outsiders find a home in speed and junk, that's true, we can just fall in and make ourselves right at home and then invite our closest friends. When Curt Cobain died a few years back, the media talked and talked about how depressed his life had been, therefore he took drugs. That's not it. Heroin addiction is depressing all by itself, regardless of what a person was like before they got hooked in. They lost a chance to tell kids, hey, this stuff can depress you to death. If it's even possible to give kids a coherent message about drugs, they never do get it right because they are never honest. Opiates are beautiful, too, something you never forget.

Life is pretty convoluted for sure. Finally old enough to enjoy a good marriage (the best) and the simple things in life, and stuck with our 35-year-old loner illnesses. Oh and being sick kind of makes you a hypochondriac every little thing wrong with me is a big deal and Significant. Yikes! It's so hard for people to ever learn. My granddaughter learned something, she learned her balance and started walking yesterday! Peace

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

[Post removed. Sponge, you've been told before, keep your personal diatribes and mental drivel outta here. --ed.]

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Drug Store Cowboy
Date: 16 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Ohio Girl; I sure hope ya' had a good night at work. Did you say that you work 3rd shift???...anyway, I think of you often. Ahh... the drug thing can get very boring and depressing (talking about it; that is)...Ahh...Your' cheer is catching. Keep smiling and sending in your thoughts on the day. The little minnor things are Important. Ahh...Death and dying...Hell....The Land of the Dead is no big shakes after spending a half of a century in the Land of the Dying. (think about it)...write soon, will ya'?

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: nyc
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Sam; You came through again; as Mark said. I can only give a torn curtain view of that scene. While true; I was surrounded in that world back in S.F as early as 70' (before my close circle of hustler freinds started dropping like flies) it was balloon city. Having held out and only submitted to skin-popping: "They" naturally boosted my doses; that being said: I still never came close to what "IT" must really be like. My closest description would be getting lowered into a warm/hot bubble bath. (which aint a bad feeling). It also gave me the feeling that I had eyes in the back of my head. I remember thinking: God, if I could only feel like this all the time. I remember folks on the street sayin' "Hey Steve..blah, blah, blah,.." Ide' lagh em' off and say "Ahh... I gotta go" Anyway, the first time I ever made any gravy was in Hawaii,..(peer group preasure)..some chicks were running up yellows and I wanted to be a big man. That was what I called Low-Ridin'. I did some very Impresive nembutal art work. Where am I goin' with this??...Ahhh...Oh ya,...New York City killed Emmitt; after "Here" theres only one place left to go...I think. Anyway...Ahhh... I gotta go. P.S. Your' slant on it all was very sweet.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen,

You did it again. Lay it out there in its raw and beautiful rich truth. Does smack make you a loner or do outsiders find junk for solace? My experience is the latter, loners find the comfort that can never be given to them by another. I have seen the others who come to heroin full of life and slowly turn gray and weak but I think they have the equipment to overcome it. The outsider is a archetypical personality that has walked through human existence trying but failing to make contact. This is a unique individual perspective, though pain filled, accumulates a store of information glossed over by most folks. Outside-looking-in is a sentence to isolation, loneliness and the ability to be cold and cruel but also offers an "objective" cultural view that exposes many frailties and solutions not available to the rest. Grogan may have been a citizen of that world. Tormented by distance, driven by its harrowing needs and fascinated, even seduced by the facility to walk in a parallel reality. The world of a junkie is complex.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge: In reference to your' lame attempt to communicate one on one in your' last three Emails; asking questions and not giving any answers aint where its at. If I want that kinda shit, all I gotta do is break the law. (or get remarried) It's just not in ya' is it?...(opps; I forgot: you dont answer questions)...

Name: ****
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

From the heart - thanks Eileen.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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When discussing a "legion" one can quickly get in trouble. But I knew Emmett to some degree and would be willing to throw in my 2 cents here. I would like to say he was a friend but I don't think I qualified for some reason in his book although he tended to watch over me when he felt it necessary. I may have even known him before heroin. It's hard to say. If you wish you can chalk this up to an opinion. OK, did I cover my back well enough?

Emmett was a junkie. Every woman he got involved with, perhaps his last wife being the exception, ended up strung out right along with him, big time. He left a wake and it amazed me some of the women that gave in. Not all of them lived through it..Paula McCoy being a prime example. She was the most intelligent high toned woman in the scene. God was she smart and politically hip. I never in a million yrs could have seen those 2 together, But that's another story. He was a hustler to the inth degree and sneaky as shit. But he was not so good at the sneaky part, so he would simply disappear or hide out in his house when he was getting too high profile. He dug himself a very deep hole with his habit and borrowed money out of the LA scene to the point I think that's what killed him..simply cause he was so way over his head in debt in a manner that only a celebrity can open doors to. I think he'd gotten himself in an blind alley he had no chance of gettin himself out of and certainly knew it. The man could talk the talk! You should have see he and Coyote together. whew! Boy were they bad! There was a high respect and competion the likes of king roosters. Towards the end it had started to grate to be with the 2 together. I thing it was a credit to strength of their friendship they hung in there as long as they did. They were so different in their background, but both had that east coast intensity that made them move through the world differently and I think they recognized each other as similar creatures. Talk about a phenomanal karmic blend from the best to the worst possible with two men that loved each other. Did someone kill him? I don't suppose that's out of the question. But as I said before, he came to me in my dreams often for yrs and never let me know. But that never entered my mind. Even before he died he was in my dreams as a messanger. I learned a lot from him both awake and when asleep. Peter told his story about himself and about Emmett in his book, pretty straight up. But they were so close there's a lot I don't think he could stand back and tell. When they finally got into serious battle and let their egos and habits get the best of them it was a disappointing and hard thing to witness. But that was a bad time with all of us. Emmett no doubt had a lot of enemies. I am sure there were men that were totally threatened by him and he would use that if it served him. To me he always had a boy air about him. An innocence a delight that I think was part of what made him so much fun. He would come up with the craziest stuff. But in the end he always felt like a loner. Heroin I think does that to you. One might wonder what he would have been like without the junk. He never got that far and he was who he was and being clean never looked to me to be out there on the horizon. I don't think he could have stood to be that awake in the world he had created. I have never missed someone so much as I did him even before he died. I always wanted more than I think he was willing to give anyone other than maybe Peter. Maybe everyone felt that way and was part of want opened so many pathways to him. Like Peter he was someone you always wanted more of than he was willing to give.

Name: Tom Diaz
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelose.com
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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Tolstoy & Morningstar 1967: There is an emotion that is contagious, a clean healthy happy to be around emotion. Joanie carried it at Tolstoy as she put flowers in your hair and gave you a hug. Ken had that quiet emotion, busy working in the garden. Kathy had the free to be, smiling emotion that carried a warm glow and presence of pleasant feelings around her. Kyle had the quiet emotion of knowing good. Lou had a intelligent wit, humorous sarcasm that would tickle but not hurt. Ramon would sit in the lotus position and look at the sun in peace, you could see the radiance of life there.

If you ask these people they would say, that's not how I felt inside. We were all turbulent inside, wanting to understand our status as humans, but we carried a contagious amount of good feelings and warmth wherever we went. The people at the courthouse were always happy to see us. I did mention that the judge took us home to dinner. He was quite proud to know us. That was his way of telling us that we were doing good, no matter what he ruled, he was a Judge

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress: laughin@theworld
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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[Post removed. This is not a toilet stall where you can post your school-boy drivel.]

Name: John
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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"Fear is a poor subsitute for respect", according to Kesey (RIP) Stone was a punk for even implying Emmett was'nt a stand-up guy, I was just testing the waters, guess I'm all wet.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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Just returned from San Francisco. The demonstration was great. The weather turned out to be sunny and warm. My official Digger crowd count is about 30,000. Lots of local colorful types, plenty of sun on the lawn in front of City Hall and a genuine good SF vibe in the crowd. The cops where laid back and there was enough room to circulate in the crowds to see and be seen, many good booths with information and goodies for sale. CHP Helicopters circled above constantly as the march went through the now she-she Hayes Valley district with many of the residents and shop (bar) patrons whooping up the crowd. A large group of protesters took part in a meditation happening with the Buddhists For Peace on the Civic Center lawn in the warm sun. The reason for having to be there was bad but it was a very good day. I love San Francisco. Still the coolest city for me.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Ask Rip Torn - accept no alternatives - grief be far....

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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Ill of the Dead Dept.:...Dear John; Anything that I ever implied about Emmett was purely speculation based upon second hand horse shit. If in fact I ever even met him at all; I didnt know his name or rep. I know that he was not at Olema during the time that I lived there, as I remember folks saying: Gee, I wish Emmit could see this..etc. I had an elderly cat pictured in my mind; as the name Emmett conjered up Immages of an old coot. As far as Ripping Off. Generally; a fucker who gets bunt is next to nill on the respect-O-meter. From what Ive' heard about Stone fucking over Morrison's saga; Ide' rip the prick off myself.

Name: John
EmailAddress: intuit777@hotmail.com
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Just read Peter Coyote's tome about Emmett and had to respond. He does'nt mention Oliver Stones assertion that Emmett died from the drugs he ripped off from Stone. Also can't understand Stones claim that Grogan was nothing but a rip-off junkie. I have read Ringolevio and any thing else I could find by and about Emmett, even got an e-mail from Ken Kesey stating what a stand-up guy Emmett was and denigrating Oliver Stone. Where does Peter weigh in on this smack?

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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Hi - My earlier note sent me into poetic drive - and here is the result -

"Dusting Dixie"

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/dixie.html

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Hello everyone, with appreciation to all who are protesting today, IMAM a voice missed lately, Eileen maybe buried alive in the blues of a yard sale, Eric you have made such a beautiful place here........ Peace

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark and all who stand and deliver in today's streets - Portand will be a massive turnout (by Portland standards).

Dixies say what is in their hearts and minds and then their manager and press agent chime: "What the hell were you thinking!!! Get out there and apologise!!!" - the sheep then baa - baa - baa all the way home.

I for one am embarrassed that Bush is a Texan if only because he is giving all good hearted Texans a bad name by thinking that our nation's flag is the Star and Stripe of America and apparently he couldn't care less what this nation and 30+ million other people think. Why should he? We/They aren't his contstituients. He wasn't even elected for christ's sake.

What a world eh?

Peace - Harmony - Spirit Focus and Love to one and all - H.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

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Just getting ready to leave for SF and the demonstration. Looks like it will be a wet one this time. The Dixie Chicks haired out, oh well, fuck them very much. I will post a report when we get back.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Mar 2003

Comments

Hello Bruce, Thanks for telling me about Sarah Mills. I never met either of you (that I know of) but it's nice to hear from you and I will be happy to get in touch with Sarah. Sounds like she took the same stuff I did. Isn't this weather something else, Ohio is outdoing herself this weekend with some beautiful early Spring weather. I hope all of you everywhere are enjoying this kind of weather where you can really appreciate the sunlight. Peace

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Hey Bruce!! Hadn't read beyond my last post. Good to hear from you here. Thanks for the good wishes. I'm glad to get good news of Sara. Shawn of X Jed lives on the big island and is my hook there. I must get back to packing and sorting. I'm really behind and the sale tomorrow promises to be hectic..especially if I don't get stuff priced and sorted. It's a lot of stuff and a lot of space for 3 of us to cover.

I can't do Richards passing justice in the hurry I'm in and will have to get back to this a few days down the line. Sorry. He died yesterday (Thur) morning and the whole family was there and it sounds like it couldn't have been more perfect. We are learning how to be with our dieing as we have had to learn to birth our children. We are learning.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Just watched the vedio of the Cocketts. If you get a chance it's a must see. Best of the '60's I've see and really showed a side of it that I think spoke for many of us. I definitely could relate. Great job.

Name: Bruce
EmailAddress: bjmartin@zoomnet.net
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Ohio girl...I'm one of the gypsy truckers that landed at Olema in the fall of '69. I live outside Jackson, Ohio along the northern border of Lake Katherine. I recently talked with Sarah, one of the gypsy truckers, who lives near you on Dutch Creek Rd. Sarah contracted hepatitis C from a blood transfusion in the early 70's when she hemmoraged having her second son, Soloman. Sarah is probably best remembered from the couple years she lived at Blackbear Ranch. Anyhow, after 6 months of Chemo last year and injections of Rivatol (or Rivaviron) she's knocked it out. I asked her if she'd be interested in being in touch with you, and she said she'd like that. It's in the Athens phone book under Tom & Sarah Mills. Tom passed away but he's the one who created those Appalachian Post Cards you might have seen around town. Eileen...good luck in Hawaii. Any word on Richard Marley? For the record: Cheryl Lynne, JP's youngest daughter, and her husband Donald Rubbo are sponsering a World Tai Chi & Chi Gung Day 2003 April 12th 10AM to 1PM at the Gerstle Park Basketball Court on San Rafael Ave. and Clark St. in San Rafael. Info: (415)456-9095. LIGHT A CANDLE FOR PEACE

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Bet they took a lot of heat! I still give em a yeah! They said it and it was heard whether anyone liked it or not.

This is one of those WOW! things. Pay attention and see if you notice how it effects the weather I people..including yourself.Space Weather News for March 14, 2003 http://www.spaceweather.com

Earth has entered a solar wind stream flowing from a coronal hole on the Sun. Geomagnetic activity reached storm levels for a while on March 14th when Earth first glided into the stream. Conditions have since quieted, but they could intensify again this weekend as solar wind gusts continue to buffet our planet's magnetic field. Sky watchers at high latitudes, e.g., in northern Europe, Canada, Alaska and US states like Wisconsin or Minnesota, should be alert for Northern Lights this weekend. Visit spaceweather.com for images and updates.

 

 

Name: patrick
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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OOPS- Gimme back my gonads. It seems the lil' dixie chicken just apologized to "Der Weasle personally saved by Christos" Pat-riot the patriot

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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MMMmm I love the Dixie Chicks! Yes I know their music. Yea for them..that did take ovaries..they may have to cross back over. HA!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Patrick,

I have just finished reading about the Dixie Chicks roasting Bush, they are taking major heat from all their country music fans. They're a crossover group so they will get some support but the best thing is that the may have opened the door for some of our more timid musicians. There will be some rallying around them for support and maybe some jerks who have been hiding may finally come out. "Up against the wall motherfucker" sure sounds good to these ears.

Name: patrick
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Wow, I gotta quit these midnight runs to Georgia so I can stick around this ol" electronic box to keep an on you all. I'm not gone 24 hours and you f orgot the difference tweeen boys and girls.Even when dem parts are showin'.I guess if you see one peace sign you've seen them all.

Eileen- Did you hear or see where a roots country girl group, who I believe won a bunch of grammmy's this year, The Dixie Chicks. Told an audience in London that they were ashamed George Bush was also a Texan. So far I don't recall any groups recently hhaving the balls to make public statements about that asshole. Oops there I go mixing up boys and girls, Perhaps I should have said Hhaving the Ovaries instead of balls. Anywayyy It was'nt the Airplane "Volunteers" up against thhe wall mother fuckers". But what the hell. Later all, Peace Patrick

 

 

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: walk on gilded splinters
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

A much needed laugh about a piece sign. But all in a very good cause I know, I guess you need to laugh in this deadly serious situation.

Yesterday we had freezing rain, and everything was encased in a thin layer of ice. This morning when the sun came up, Ohio sparkled silver and gold. Each tree branch glistened, even the corn stubble and dried grass in the fields was lovely with the light reflecting off countless individual stems. And this afternoon it was fifty degrees and sunny. And having said that, Hawaii sure sounds good!! Small world, I collect rocks too. The kids used to cringe whenever I started collecting rocks in front of strangers. Most are small, but one weights around 40 pounds and I had to roll it down this big hill to the car (to the kids' relief there were no other people around to witness this event, but they must have been glad when they were old enough to move away from all that embarrassment). Anyways by the time I got the rock down to the car it was a giant mudball and they laughed at me. But once cleaned up, it is a natural work of art. I was told it's called a septarian nodule and it has rings of white and black crystals.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Tomas, phew! thank you, I thought so.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Nic - The photo arrived and at first glance - Yes - I have seen this face or one like it blending into the crowds downtown. Hummmmm....Stew and I will get together next week. Update to follow......:-)

Name: Tom
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Pt Reyes Women Protest

Those are the guys. If not? I have been fooling around with the wrong ones.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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My pleasure Nic - Vol. 2 will debut by the Spring if not before. Tx!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Hammond, Thanks and yes absolutely.

Name: Pt Reyes Women Protest
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Here is a great shot of the ladies in Pt. Reyes - bless their hearts! http://www.ptreyeslight.com/stories/jan02_03/naked_again2.html

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Joe~You gave me a laugh. No that's not the picture. Maybe I'll give you my version later when I can enjoy it. Have hit the ground running this morning and it won't stop til later tonight..maybe.

Hello Family~Richard Marley died 9: something AM March 13 '03. Family sounds at peace. It was good.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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Michael - You are a gem! Thanks for the a.note.com. Much appreciated.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

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NIcole - Hey now - your fantasy is a keeper! - Care to join in The 3rd Page Vol. 2? Just let me know - You will be in good company I assure you.

Here is the preview page

Who Is Anita Queens? http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/nicole1.html

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi all, just thought I'd share my morning fantasy with you...

Who is Anita Queens?

Somewhere in this deep city is a mystery roaming the tunnels. Every now and again I think I catch a glimpse... But when I try to actually look, it’s no longer there…as if existing only in my peripheral vision. Sometimes I hear footsteps behind me…and once I thought I heard my name called out. I became aware of this mysterious presence one bleak winter morning while standing on the platform waiting for my opportunity to join the crush of humanity known as rush hour. The weather was extreme and I was as cold as the blue ice of a glacier when suddenly there came a soothing rush of warm air…and as it swirled around me, the cold was simply gone. There were no fires no furnaces around me. I was standing quite apart from anyone…yet this comforting warmth abounded and I was very comfortable. Sometimes waiting for the subway at night could be frightening. There were always stories in the papers about random slashing, and strange, wayward men approaching or some crack crazed miscreant pushing someone into the path of an oncoming train. But I felt silently protected by this same mysterious presence. As if it was guarding me from all harm. Somehow I seemed to think perhaps I knew what or who it was…just there on the edge of my brain…maybe in my memory, something tugging at me…who? What? Where? When? A name would flash in my head, but not long enough for me to grab it… Just then while waiting for the train doors to open…I heard the conductor in his classic New Yawk accent say” Dis is an E da Queens, please step away from da closin doors” And there it was, An e to Queens! She’s the woman who roams the underground of NYC!

 

Name: Joe
EmailAddress: Hey Joe
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

Hmm a woman with a shaved head that misses the days when we could just kill someone....Why amI visualizing an X carved in the forehead?....

Hammond I got your book today....it looks good....I'll start it tomorrow...I saw the to be continued on the last page already....a work in progress, just lke life itself

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

How does anyone who's unconscious sleep..either well or with drugs. It's not like the man is struggling with his conscience. It's a skill Southerners have developed to a high art..considering the "other" less than human. But God on our side, Manifest Destiny was and is how this country was taken..why should that change just on our shores? It is the propensity of rulers to expand their domain. The real question might be, what kind of manwould WANT to be president? That must be a slippery slope. But the populace has been spending their time for many yrs now "consciousness raising" during a time of assumed peace and this is no longer the Dark Ages and war seems at the very least distasteful. But since 9/11 we are being quietly brain washed with war movies and their messages softening us up to the idea. Have you noticed?

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: nyc
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

Thats what gets me....then we were getting fucked raw by the "Older" generation. Now its our generation thats putting the sand in the vasaline. He's finishing what his Ol' Man couldnt. How does he sleep at night???

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

I'm amazed the man hasn't been shot yet. You'd think out of all the crazy folks in the world... Oh well. He's not really the only guy we have to worry about. Yes I miss the good old days where we could just kill people that irritated us or mishandled their position. Yeah, I miss it alot. But ofcourse then we're always stuck with the question of whose right. I guess whoever is left standing. On the other hand that's the whole problem in a nutshell ain't it? When it gets right down to it I'm not very evolved at a gut level.

Yep, I'm looking forward to you getting that package too. Just finished going through all my paperwork saved over the last 3 yrs. I have never had to keep that shit and I got to say I don't like it one little bit. I have filled and stuffed a whole grocery bag and I'm loving it!!!!!

Ohio Girl~You know all that stuff you got? I bettcha I'm going through that much. Moving sale this Sat and Sun. I can't wait to see that stuff outa here! I'm even yet still packing and unpacking to get rid of more. Miranda put here hands on her hips when I said I was taking my collection of 6 foot unfinished walking sticks (she thinks they're just sticks, silly girl). I like sticks. I'm going to have to hid the rocks from her.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

OK,..Hunter Thompson wont say it,..Ramsey Clark wont say it,...Charlie Rose wont say it,...It's up to me. FUCK YOU MISTER PRESIDENT!.... Impeach him???...Hell!!...pickle his ass in a fifty gallon oil drum. Those tilt-headed Bush's are no damn good. Are you simps who actually voted for him happy??? Would you re-send yer' vote if ya' had half a chance??... That proud hue???... The blood is on your' hands and on the ballot cards; bent chards, dimples and all.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: nyc
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

Ahhh...make that "Call" it Femail..not "Can" it Femail...OK? Shit, I cant think straight (no pun intended)..Well; t looks like Bush is making it Loud and Clear that this is no War. Its a Feud. King George II has overstepped his authority. In Scotland the Chiefs of the Clans would have declared him an Outlaw and retaken the Crown. They would have cut his throat and bled him like the pig that he is by now for endangering the country. The Boyd's ruled Scotland for over three years and things went real smooth. (Till they got their fuckin' heads cut off)...now that my freind is polotics.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 14 Mar 2003

Comments

Ahhh...Eileen,...thanks, I love male..Uhh...I mean Mail. Hey,..why dont they can it Femail? You know,..that way they could skip all of the silly "Mail Person" stuff and instead of a Mail Man, It would be a Femail Man. Ahhh.. femail person still sounds better, I guess...Hmmm,...bad Idea. Well, thats one in a row. Hey, really; I cant wait to smoke..I mean..mess around with my gift. I cant think too good now.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve~Your package should be in the mail in the morning if the road doesn't have a tree down. You think of the weirdest things! Made me laugh.

Name: Dr. Boyd
EmailAddress: Eye See You  (Intensive Care Unit)..get it??
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey folks; Life blowing by???...goin' to damn fast?. Here's what I recommend; Marry a poor widow who has six youngens, move into a one room shack in Kansas and buy one hundred hogs. (I guarentee that it will be the longest year of your life!)....Hey, come on...cheer up. Things could be alot worse. (you could be me.)....

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Well;..all of the signs say get out while the gettin's good. Hey nik, I will put the reels (heavy) in a canvas tote bag for ya. You can have em' for keeps. As I said perhaps get them onto a more modern format. Maybe Eric knows a War archivist or two. They could be all propaganda for all I know. In any event: have at it. Well; they broke it down into "Task Teams" here at the Peace Church. "Close Down Team", "Alternate Location Team", ...here's the one that pops up Red Flags which these sheep just cant see.."Redevelopment Team" (these are the hacks who plan on getting in bed with a "developer" to "redevelop" our property.) Yep,..Ive' been "Down-Sized" and have seen to many factories close up shop while massaging the working stiffs to know that if these fools ever leave this Building; they will not be permited to ever return. (..well,..maybe if they buy a ticket)...Anyway,.. mark my words: This is one big realestate scam. Hey Nik,..again; thanks, but I aint' gonna' let any grass grow under me..(no barnacles either)..again;..thanks so much.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: more stuff
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

If I was a turtle carrying my house around with me, my shell would explode. I like the John Phillip Sousa reprise, we're in such trouble, did they have to add a Mother of All Blasphemies into the mix?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Went and got a Carlin vedio to help me keep it all in perspective. Big-O storm kicking in..cold too. I was just about getting spoiled with the weather this past few wks. Ocean churning and blowing sprays backwards off the waves. Pretty fierce out there.

Name: NY Friend
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Meeting Assembled By Conyers Mulls Seeking Bush's Impeachment Over Iraq

Thu Mar 13 2003 10:30:03 ET

House Judiciary ranking member John Conyers (D-Mich.) assembled more than two-dozen prominent liberal attorneys and legal scholars on Tuesday to mull over articles of impeachment drafted against President Bush by activists seeking to block military action against Saddam Hussein. ROLL CALL is reporting on Thursday.

The two-hour session, which featured former attorney general-turned-activist Ramsey Clark, took place in the downtown office of a prominent Washington tort lawyer. Participants said Conyers, who hosted the meeting, was the only Member of Congress to attend. 'We had a pretty frank discussion about putting in a bill of impeachment against President Bush,' said Francis Boyle, an Illinois law professor who has been working on the impeachment language with Clark.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi All - Here is a literary blurp from today - and of the moment.

John Philip Sousa (Reprise)

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/jpsr.html

Name: Tomas@dotcom
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

If I had lots of money we could create a library to store our stuff in. Or we could just move out of our house and still make the house payments. We could move from place to place and leave a library behind. Everything that I look at is a story that tells a page in this timeline. This website does that, but if we had lots of money we could store our homes as we traveled. thhywwww.your.life.dot.com.org wwww.the.great.hippie.auction.dot.com

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

If George Carlin saw the things and stuff in this house he'd have to re-write that great monologue twice as long. I actually sometimes think of George Carlin's monologue with a tinge of guilt when I'm in the attic, which looks like someone has lived here 200 years not 15. So un-hip. But hey, it's all really good stuff.

Name: Ellsberg Files
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Daniel Ellsberg Seeks Iraq Leaks: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030311-024340-7995r

Name: Poets Against War
EmailAddress: NoWar.org
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

"Help!" by Robert Creeley in today's CounterPunch http://www.counterpunch.org/creeley03132003.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen - My history has been - get rid of it! But this is me at least four times in my life when have simply let go of (almost) everything material when 'moving along time' has come along. And though there are some 'stuff-thingys' I miss from time to time - the lightened load of (excess) baggage has always been somewhat enlightening. Good luck with the downsizing - I know how hard it can be. (or is that from a Beatles song?) -

Niclole - You forgot to ask for the "advice" - Don't think you really need any as it sounds like you have a firm grip on what you need to do. Just take your 'moment' and soar (break a leg!). Kerouac was once asked about the plot of his book "On The Road" - and he answered: "Life doesn't have a plot."

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen, no you weren't being rude. Hope I didn't come off that way either...

Stuff...gawd I'm choking on stuff. everywhere I turn I have stuff. Junk. Once, everything I owned fit into a duffel bag and a paint box, and I was pretty damn happy. Now I'd need a boxcar to move, and my days are blue.

 

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, I lived on a moored Tahiti Ketch in the Lahaina harbour when Jeramiah was a baby and I loved it...of course that was in Hawaii our on the pacific...not the Hudson river in New York Harbor...so I quite understand...

I need some advice and direction...I've been asked to give a talk at the Tisch building at NYU by my friend who teaches there. It's a workshop on performance, but relative to something...for instance I saw a lecture by an enviromentalist who has written several books but also stages events to bring media attention to different issues. They know of my involvement with the San Francisco scene and asked if I would speak on it...so I said yes. Because the diggers are "life actors", it fits into thier performance format.

By the way Steve, My friend is very interested in viewing the tapes from VN.I will come by and speak to you about it...I'm going upstate tomorrow so probably monday or tues...

Name: Mc Ming
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve -- Without a doubt the Red Chinese occupation of the ancient & honorable nation of Tibet has been one of the great tragedies of modern history. And the devastation goes on, even as we speak. Too bad the great freedom-loving democracies of the West did not intervene when they could .. the only interventionist action I could ever sign up for .. <sigh>

Oh, one more line from the Dalai Lama, one of the great scholars of Budddhism in our time, he said it as simply as this : "My religion is kindness."

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey; here's the latest from the Dahli Lahma.. (spelling?)..anyway, on top of saying that "War lacked far-sighted vision",.. the Big Kahoona went on to spout that "Destruction of Iraq will affect many people and countries when we live on a small planet where all of us are interdependant on each other." ...got that?..OK,..he also said; "The concept and practice of war has become outdated and must be consigned to the dustbin of history"....OK,...he went on to add that; "One country may lose at a time but this only creates a cycle of violence. In the long run there will be no winners"...As to war, he added that: "The weaker sections will suffer the most. Those with rank and positions will find safe places to hide themselves". Hey,..this cat is tuned in. Personally; I watched the Letterman show which was hosted by Whoppi Goldburge; and she said something to the effect:.."whadda' ya expect? Our current administration is being led by a Bush, a Dick and a Colin." (think about it). P.S. hey, lets hear it for my Tibetan Brothers and Sisters.

Name: Silent Skin
EmailAddress: NYC Fringe Element
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Black Leather?..yuuukk!... I dont even do top grain. Having dumped the dock worker image: Im' a doe skin, suede cat again. I plan on morphing into all buck skin from here on out. Nik; boat?...you mean a hole in the water which is usually lined with wood or fiber glass that folks keep dumping money into???..Ahh... I dont wanna sound like an ingrate; but if it was leaving port; SURE!...but uhh.. moored??..thanks but no thanks,..I really mean that. I am my home. I plan on not wearin' the ol' mocasins out on the pavement and will wile the summer away on the green grass (somewhere in between the dog shit and the busted glass) untill the first snow. Hey Ohio Girl; the Strange Days Alley is here in NYC. Nancy and I relived it last summer. (Invisible juggling, pressing air, clicking my heels)...we were definately tracked down. After consulting the coin oracle, Im' going the pioneer route with whats on my back. No health club which would keep me in their game. And a shadow touched a shadows hand.

Name: McMingus the designated Barbarian
EmailAddress: orbit of Pluto right now
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

welcome Sarah -- we might seem a little crazy here .. but as I think you have detected, it is a good kind of crazy, crazy like a fox .. when normalcy is so obviously certifiably INSANE .. thanx for the good words, little sister -- raving on into the night, Blue Man

Name: sarah
EmailAddress: punk_in_my_vitamins@hotmail.com
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

thanks for a great website! just wanted you to know, the digger ideology is not completely lost on my generation of fuckups. there will always be a few hippie offspring like me out there to keep the spirit alive, even if the external appearance has changed over the years.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen,

Travel light. Stuff will accumulate. George Carlin did an amazing routine years ago about this. Something about the process of things becoming stuff becoming junk. Hey, it's just an idea.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Sorry that was me, Gouge. No, It's your name. Guess I was being rude. It just looks like Gourge and takes me a minute to recompute everytime I see it. But that's my little problem..not yours. I have hit the standing in a pile (make that piles) of stuff stage, just wanting to shovel it out the doo,r when I am supposidly packing. I can no longer figure out what to keep cause somehow it seems like too much to cart around from shore to shore. Picking on you is just my way of ignoring real life over here. Thanks for the explination.

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

It's my real last name...frenchie deal. I first logged on as Stray, it morphed to stray bob, bob...if it's a problem, gimme a new one. please make it a good 'un, tho...

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

"the name rhymes with rouge...Goo-zhu." Could we talk about this? What does it mean? Where does it come from?

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Congratulations, Eileen. Sounds like paradise. (the name rhymes with rouge...Goo-zhuh..)

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress: reminicsing@memory.lane
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Rena, Phyllis is in Arcata. my sister Jenn sees her sometimes...she's doing well. I lived at Treat Street with all the sisters for a while...vicky,Julie,Phyllis, Sienna(natural susanne) and Taj...when the twins were just born...he actually really was paramount in my entering the music biz...and years later I would run into him at either a gig of his or one of mine...the world is so so small really. ps. do or did you ever know Virginia Dowis...on Maui? she had a big estate in Kula...she was part of the Sausalito, Big Sur, contingent but always ready to help people out...sort of a patron of the arts type.

Name: rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

update... Taj and Insurah have long been split up. Taj is in LA (I have his manager's number) and Insurah is still on Kauai raising his kids. It was a rough break up. I have her number as well. Insurah is one awesome yogini.

Hey... did anyone ever find Digger Phyllis? Taj made me think of her becasue she used to watch his first set of twins way back when.

Eileen, I anticipate a great journey for you. I'm relieved one of the big island midwives is offering you some assistance in tuning in.

Blessings, Rena

Name: R I P
EmailAddress: FYI.org
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Filmmaker Stan Brakage has passed away into the good night.

Obitlinks - http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/BrakhageL.html

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen,

I too can feel your excitement about setting foot on the Big Island. Man, there is nothing like a little change of geography to lift the spirits. A clean fresh canvas always sets me free. You're giving me road fever.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

ooh you guys are good. Thanks. Cause I am not fishing for compliments but having a uuum an aging crisis. I admit I am not zen enough not to need the feedback from the outside these days. Ha and I used to complain folks just related to my beauty like it was a problem or something. Ah the stupidty of youth. Ofcourse I don't believe you, but it's nicer to hear than..yeah she's pretty scary looking.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole,

I am happy to verify your description of Eileen's captivating beauty and elegant ways. That Louisiana demeanor together with the deep counter- culture kaleidoscope spirit is a soulful presence.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey folks, now let me tell you, those of you who know, know...those of you that haven't had the pleasure...believe me if Eileen was 95 she'd still be stunning...and that doesn't even account for the inner beauty.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen - Nicole and I smell the same Hawaiian air from 30+ years away with fond memory of the garden-like isles and yes - it is as fresh as a daisy (even better with the 360 degree sea air to comfort you). I can feel your excitement growing - and Bon Voyage! So glad you found a home for your buddy - I had to do the same when I moved back to Holland in 97 - thinking (nearly correctly ) that I would not return for number of years - yet in the end it was only one and here I am in Portland. My buddy Kace (a wonderful Keeshound - a Dutch breed) got a fantastic home near Eugene. - Best of search for your new digs on the island - which ever one you find to be home for you - and damn - I wish I was doing the same!!!

Nicole - No pic in the mail as yet - I will let you know when it has been examined by HSI (Hammond and Stew Investigations!)

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

No I said you're a good looking man, dummy. I just mean I'm not so thrilled at my own looks right now and might be happier with what folks THINK I look like. We all must create in our minds eye what each of us faceless people here must look like. Now matter what you told me, I had you shorter with dark long hair and a black leather jacket, just for starters. And I have always somehow remembered Eric looking a whole lot like you. I still haven't quite come to terms with that radical change.

Thanks Rena~I know most of those from the month I lived in Lahina 18 yrs ago. Time's so odd. It hadly seems that long ago..if I forget everything inbetween. HA! I'm good at that..forgetting that is.

Have a man coming to look at all my books to possibly buy this morning and have to let the dogs and chickens out yet. Wet spring morning here. The dafydills have about worn themselves out and the acacais have blossomed (yeah, I know I can't spell) and the new leaves on the trees are just being born..wonder what flowers are next?

Morning Nicole.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress: crocusandpussywillow@springis.coming
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Geez you guys get to do all the talking at night!

Eileen, I'm so happy for you, wow would I love to go to the islands...it's been over 30 years, but I still can smell the air. You know Taj and Anshura live on Kuaai and taj jr. too, he has a landscaping business there...have you spoken to Sienna?

Mark, I never made it to BBR but that living room/music room sure looks mighty inviting...

Steve, I have a friend with a sailboat down at the 79th street boat basin, whenever he goes away, he likes to have someone stay on the boat...it's usually for a few months at a time...shall I give him a shout and see what's up with his schedule? Could be nice as summer rolls along...

Gouge, the dessert used to scare me untill once while traveling across pulling a little antique wooden airstream type trailer, the truck we were pulling it with broke down...so my friend I was traveling with had to leave my son and I alone out there while he hitch hiked to go get the part...it took about four or five days and that's was when I became intimate with the dessert...and I've had a fantasy relationship with her ever since, every now and again I get to pass through.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

You have a way with women

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Yeah, I'm smiling and feeling great most of the time. If I have a bad day it terrifies me, also thinking about the upcoming blood test. But this website kept me smiling this morning. Steve you look good. And you look like the person who writes what you write. When it comes to album covers I used to live in the Strange Days cover, it was actually in the Fillmore. The Freewheeling' cover was a picture worth a million words, many of those album covers were.

Concerning flying without a plane... My Mom was a war bride and after WW2, her sisters followed her to the US. One of my aunts, after arriving in New York on a boat, had to take a plane to Ohio. Upon being told that there were no more seats on the plane, my Aunt, who had previously ridden on buses, said that's okay, she'd stand at the back of the plane until there was an empty seat.

Name: Steve......
EmailAddress: Ahh......
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

You sayin' Im' ugly???...

Name: rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2003

Comments

Congratulations Eileen on venturing to paradise. here's some Hawaiian words you need to know: Aloha: my love to you, also hello and good bye. Mahalo: thanks. Mahalo is on the trash cans and means thanks pupu: something to munch on, snack pau: (prounced pow) enough finished pau hana: through work mana: the divine energy, power, vital force. My favorite health food store on Maui is Mana Foods. ohana: extended family

aina (long i, nah) the land

kamaaina child of the land.

kamaaina is the bonus word because saying it will often get you a discount on purchases and services. Do you have a kamaaina rate? is an acceptable question.

You can get your driver's license in one day. You will have to read the rule book and take a written test. all the questions and answers are in the back of the book, so it's fine to mainly study the test questions. That license will get you lots of discounts and a free library card. The library system in Hawaii is one of the best in the world. We can order books, cds, tapes and videos from any branch in the state and they are delivered to the library branch of choice for free. The library also has free internet access but you need a card and id. It is possible to purchase a temporary library card with out of state id. But, might as well get your Hawaii driver's license right away.

I hope you hook up with some of the midwives. they have lots of useful information about everything. I wish I had more personal friends on the big island but it is another world from here. yet, lots of people travel betwenn Maui and the big island.

find Kihana beach. I may be spelling it wrong. It is past Puna on and i think past Kalapana, but i reallu don't remember because it's been 11 + years. that's where I first swam with dolphins. It's pretty near the end of the road past Puna where the lava has overtaken homes and roads. It's pretty wild to walk in what was someone's beach front place and now see the house, swimming in cold lava that looks fluid, a half mile from the water, a half mile of lava spill.

Good Luck!!! Give me a call anytime. I'm closer than you think. Ciao!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

I need to be on the plane inthe air and then step into the air there. oops* No I will not be sky diving. I mean I need to get out at the airport and feel the air there and then I'll know it's real.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Guess you figured out that was me. Mark~I had to laugh. Looking through those pictures (from the bottom up) all I could think was.."It's so CLEAN!" I forgot you said those were recent pictures.

OK folks I have GREAT news! I found a home for my old lady dog with a friend she likes I hadn't even thought about..so I don't have to kill her. There's no way she could have made it through dog jail even for a month. Can you hear me shouting YEA! I know I won't have much trouble finding homes for my other critters. Yes I will miss them. But as long as I know they're ok is all that matters. I have our tickets now. We go to the ship yard and leave the car and boxes March 26th and fly out of Oakland, the 27th. I will be off-line from the 22nd until I hook back up ON THE BIG ISLAND. Yes! Can you believe it??? We're really doing this. But for real..I just need to be there. I need to be on the plane inthe air and then step into the air there. Then I'll know.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

The Active Opposition

This Thursday night, the 2nd episode of Peter Coyote's new TV series, "The Active Opposition" will be broadcast on WorldLink TV. The promo says, "An exploration of recent developments in the buildup to war in Iraq. Hosted by Peter Coyote." The first episode was top notch. Here's the schedule of broadcasts: Thu, Mar 13, 9:00 PM ET (Thu, Mar 13, 6:00 PM PT) Fri, Mar 14, 3:00 AM ET (Fri, Mar 14, 12:00 AM PT) Fri, Mar 14, 9:00 AM ET (Fri, Mar 14, 6:00 AM PT) If you're not aware of WorldLink yet, you need to be. WorldLink TV... http://www.worldlinktv.org ...is the first nationwide television network providing Americans with global perspectives on news,events and culture. The programming consists of first run documentaries, foreign feature films, global news reports and eight hours of world music each day. Launched in 1999, the channel is available in over 17 million U.S. homes via basic service on the direct-to-home satellite services DIRECTV® (Channel 375) and DISH Network® (Channel 9410).

 

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

But really folks;...religion is serious stuff....just ask Bakker of Swaggart. (or Bernnie Law for that matter). OR BURT AND EARNIE.

No way. Ok I have to reconstruct my brain. That guy standing in the hole is Eric?!~ No way! (I know. I said that already.) I have Eric looking like you and you looking like someone that wasn't in the picture. I'm in shock. Maybe I better leave well enough alone and not send any pictures of myself and remain a figment of everyone's imagination (except Mark). Wow! (I seem to be saying that a lot today.) Yeah. Leave the beard until some woman tells you she wants to see your face bad enough to get there. Good looking man!

Yes zippo lighter. hehe You're going to like this!

Name: Steve again
EmailAddress: Out of focus....
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Hell,...I could have sworn that that was a rockin' chair...some fucker wrenched 4X4's to it!! (I guess we see what we wanna'??!!)....

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Black Bear early September, 1970
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen, that front room is where we parted company. The hells Angels had all pulled up stakes and rode out of the Olema campsite at the lower end a few days before you came up with Erial. Coyote had resurfaced from a run to a free store on the night of your' arrival that and teased you by offering you some "Witch Shoes". You turned up your' nose at em" (I know that look)...I said: WOW; can I have em??..I also scarfed a cool pair of English Invasion tight stripped pirate pants to match my new Checkered Demon Lucky Boots. In early '71' I Incorperated both Items into a J.P. style "Found Things" sculpture in San Francisco. Hey,... check out the rockin' chair...(are you thinkin' what Im' thinkin'???).... Folks; sometimes life gets interesting. Fortune favors the bold.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Hmmm.....
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

mark; after 33 years...Ahhh...the floor kinda rings a bell,...I cant make out where the square cut out in the ceiling is just before ya' get to the old kitchen beyond...Ahh...did they demo the little front room that was used for the kids' class room?...I know that it had painted walls, because we drew on them. The main room looks alot smaller in so many ways. The painting of the melting lady in the swamp must be long gone also...anyone have any clues???...kinda sad; I remember it at night, lite up like an old church at Chrismas,..filled with some vibrant folks with a kid on every other hip.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Brownsville Station
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Hammond; Im' burrowing out in dribs and drabs; but I have a book bag which will come in handy on the subway; it will contain the I Ching: (The Book Of Changes) and AsEverWas. Im' leaving the Bible at the Church. (which is some Improvement: as I left the last one in a rain swept gutter down on Bowery.) I figure that Buckley and I can swap shifts and wake each other in order to skip getting ticketed. Shit...getting fined for sleeping...they said that it couldnt' happen here. Hey; I wont have to read the news paper: all I gotta' do is listen to Buckley read it. That fucker just got back from a week long Episcople retreat in Connecticutt. (he really plays those churches for all they're wourth). Hmmm....those big-assed-tight-skirted-divorced-Whiskiepalian-Gals....why didnt I think of that sooner???...I could use some more "Savin'". But really folks;...religion is serious stuff....just ask Bakker of Swaggart. (or Bernnie Law for that matter).

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Here's a series of photos I took at BBR about a year and a half ago. I thought it would be something interesting that could be posted here.

 

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Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Homeskin
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen; Im' the cat standing next to Nicole in both pictures. In one Im' Napolian and Nik is Josephine, and in the other Im' in between Nik and Eric. Where ya' commin' from???...Ahhh...do I look different in each photo, or what??...Ahh...In one I have on a jacket and in the other just a tee shirt. Package??...Hmmm...Ah...if its pocket sized sure,..but I now plan on sleeping on the subway with Buckley and padding a bankroll in order to puddle jump to Kodiak Island in early '04'. I plan on doing some cannery work. So if the package contains knick-knacks or a home improvement Item...ahhh..lay it on a straight citizen. Ahhh...will this gift require a zippo lighter???... Hmmm...133 (or) 135 West 4th. Street, NY, NY. 10012

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: almost forgot
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve I have a package I KNOW you want, but no way am I putting it in the mail until you tell me that address is still good.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Gouge (no that name does not work for me) WOW! You're still together? I love it. Nice read. Keep it comin'.

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

There are a couple of totem images in my history. One is the cover of Dylan's 'Freewheelin'. You know, he's walking down a cold Bleeker Street, Suze Rotolo on his arm. The other, you'll have to imagine. Picture the hard desert pan, ringed by mountain. A plume of smoke in the distance. Both are pictures of home.

When I made myself up out of youthful hurt and anger, I did so as the 'loner'. Whether it came from a prang in my helix, or just me believing my owm bullshit doesn't really matter. As the 'loner', I was always looking for home. The desert is just in my blood, I came from there and always return. Can't help it. Bleeker Street is another matter.

Actually it was Leroy Street. Number 57. Top floor, walkup. A clawfoot tub in the kitchen. Restlessness drove me out of the desert and into that walkup. That, and a woman, but that's a different story. Went to Manhattan to paint and write. Did it, too. Education came in the Metropolitan Museum, the Frick Collection, libraries and bars, the streets and blooded Italian women. I've got a box of Manhattan stories. Ended up living Dylan's album cover, for a time.

One night a friend wanted me to meet his new lady. I had seen her around. Hell, everyone had seen her around, she was the Village Beauty, the gorgeous blonde they called The Ice Queen. She didn't much like thay name, though. Standing out on a freezing midnight Perry Street she offered me her elegantly gloved hand, and all hell broke loose. We came together like a couple of wild horses, doing everything hard. Loved hard, fought hard... I ended up stealing her away from them, put her up in a beat up pick-up out in the desert. A long time ago, and by some miracle, we're still together. Home.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Rena - I am so pleased to find (especially now with you-know-what brewing) that my book can instigate smiles - and laughter. As a writer I can't thank you enough - I am simply blushing.

Name: Rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, I'm having a hard time getting on with my day. Your book...i just don't want to put it down. Bravo!

Name: r n a
EmailAddress: susm it up
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

AsEverWas is a multi sensory book; visuals, spirituals,emotionals, colorfuls, spiced with laughs aloud.

What a journey!

 

Name: guardians of the sacred?
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

This (blatant CEO nepotism) is why Dick Cheney refused to release the names of people who met him at the White House to discuss Energy.

Only in America could this happen.

In today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,911943,00.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Rena - Assuming the Drop City book you mention is the one I have read excerpts from on the web - I found it very disappointing - not exactly well written - and did not accurately represent the Drop City I visited long ago. Then again UI was never a resident - just passing by so to speak. at the invitation of an old hobo - Beat acid head traveler whose name I can't remember. He looked like Robinson Crusoe in pelts and spoke like an Angel. When I arrived in Drop City the place was full of LSD and geodesic variations make from sections of automobiles and 50 gal. drums. First communal situation I had encountered as a young lad on the road to where ever it led..... The story in this book breifly touches on the place I visited but from there the writer's story and the place described seemed very alien to me. I think that this book at least is about the later day Drop City and not the original tribe.

PS - Tx my dear and I hope you enjoy the read!

Name: rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, Wow!!! Your book kept me reading for hours. I can well understand how Nicole went past her stop on the subway while reading it. Your story is captivating; the way you write is absolutely riveting. Thanks!!!!

i also found myself laughing out loud (sorry for the cliche, but it's true) in many spots.

AsEverWas is a hit in my world. Thanks!

PS I keep getting these amazing visuals from your book...

Name: paterpower
EmailAddress: bonedigger9@yahoo.com
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

We was in N.Y.C. after the arrival of our firstborn ,it was 1970 anno di cane we were at a bar on bdwy. saint Adrians ,below the bdwy central hotel,it was cold and I was another pauper volunteer, as i surveyed the rm, another ex expat amerrikkkan sat next me and we began a discussion about a free store play in the works, 1970 year of the dawg, nixons mid-term and free dumb now shit, the play "red lips'aka red lips for stalin was gettin hashed out and the director? asked me if i wanted in, consulting ,art or what not, his background was tech lites etal and i figgured "free theatre" so i listened and he pitched the storyline, so as i criused the local not free cineplex and made entry after entry, only to find more cliched crap, exitos mas exitos, i stopped hunched down and watched steve martin duh... and queen latifah , of the gladiator sandals do a rip off for not free of the for free, sorta; play "red lips" when the still sea conspires in amour, when a street wise black gal "bigassed' meets up with mister got it all togetherwhite bread , sparks ensue sure and we rewrote days of thunder and called it the race for racists or whatever 's write wheres the freestore theatre nowadays....../

Name: Joe
EmailAddress: Hey Joe
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve I'll be back to brooklyn again in about 2 weeks....i used to run to work when i worked in Morningside Heights over the 59 St. Bridge or Triborough Bridge....about 8 miles each way...I like that walk dont walk idea...Hawaii sounds good after this winter....get rid of that coat once and for all....I heard its really expensive....how is Hawaii for people with respiratory problems...i cant believe i have to take these things into consideration now...Im waiting until things settle down here with her leg, we just found out at least 3 more operations, then im gonna take a trip somewhere...new mexico and arizona, if gas isnt $5 a galon by then.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: taking a break
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Eric~Read over the Black Bear reunion story. Made me once again remember the smell we all had from living with the out doors and fire..wood burning cook stoves, wood for heat and open fire pits. There was a smell I miss on all of us. When I brain tan and smoke my hides I set up a tall tripod much like a tepee, that the hide goes over to capture the smoke. I have to keep it going for hours. It always makes me yearn for those days together. Also made me think of Richard Marley. I wonder if he is still hanging on or has passed. I have put him to the side of my mind until this moment. It was too painful to hold him so close in my mind.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve if you're the tall dude in the picture..who's the uh short one? I'm really confused. BTW, there will be a package in the mail for you in the next day or so. I mail it to the return address you put on your letter right?

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: W. 4th
Date: 11 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Joe: found your note on the ringer. I dont know where I was....maybe napping with Cla"W"dia the cat. Monday is one of my days off....(no Blue Mondays for this Boy)...Oh ya Hammond; burrowing is a good word for it. Hey Eric; I will lay your' Poster and those Cong Movie reels on The Queen Goddess of NYC. (our other on-site historian.) Maybe she can connect with someone to transfer em' onto vidio cassets or stills. Hmmm...maybe silk-screened images for Tee Shirts. Have at it Nik! Hey Nik; you can also have my turned-up-at-the-toes Gennie shoes and flying carpet. If I wore those on the street, Ide' most likely end up a victom of an angry mob. America, where are you now? Hey Ohio Girl,..how are ya??..keep smiling.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Talkin' New York Talk
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Nik; your' little walk-a-bout made somethin' click. Try this; head out the door and walk to the nearest courner and cross with the "WALK" sign. Keep doing that and if you hit a "Dont Walk" sign; turn and cross with the "Walk" sign,...continue doing that...cross only with the "Walk" (without ever waiting)..and avoid any direction that indicates "Dont Walk"...Get it???...All of the "signs" are there. The City will guide you. Who knows where it will lead. Try it with a friend sometime. Go with the flow. P.S. dont get me wrong: (Look both ways). Take care.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Hypnotizzzzzed
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Ah...make that...ahhh... well, I got the shirt and the jacket mixed up with the photos...well, you know what I mean...Im' the cat standing next to Nicole in each photo....I think.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Photo-Genic
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Cat; to answer your' question: in the three-some picture, Im' the dude in the middle wearin' the brown suede jacket,..and in the couple pic, Im' next to Nik, wearin' my "Fresh Washed" Tee Shirt. As you can see; Eric is as nearly as tall as me and Nicole when he sits down. Hey Eric; take a few drags from that bottle and you will realize why God put Whiskie on Earth....(to keep the Irish from ruling the World)...ENJOY!!!!

Name: rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond, your book arrived today. I'm looking forward to diving in.

lots of chat about the book Drop City that's getting lots of publicity and reviews. haven't read it but i hear it's your worst nightmare of the imagined hippie trip by an uptight out of the looper. Ramon Sender, one of the founding parents of Morningstar, had his name swiped as a main character in drop city: "Norm Sender." Nothing high here, no spirituality, no consciousness, just lots of bummers, per Ramon who has read this book. he is sending me a copy to peruse and see if i recognize. apparently Boyle, the author, read Dick Fairfield's "Communes USA" and hit on some of the downers mentioned in this book while omitting the spiritual journeys, and creative consciousness raising lifestyles. since i haven't read it i'm just running at the mouth. however, my granddaughter (Lou's granddaughter) phoned tonight concerned because she heard my name was in it and it was aobut M*. I called ramon... etc. so, he's sending us each a copy. the publisher sent ramon a dozen copies when ramon contacted them.

Hammond, your book will be eagerly read but i have limited time... single mother dances...

best to all

 

 

 

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Gouge - Thanks and please do.

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress: rhymes with 'rouge'
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Why, certainly, Hammond. I'm pleased you liked it. Do whatever you like with it. Perhaps from time to time I'll toss some more into the pot...

Name: seniormagggggga
EmailAddress: seniormagga@yahoo.com
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

i have been there just hello to the site okkkk

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi All~Just a note to let you know this is an auspicious day for decisions and planning great things..to really set something in motion that matters to you. Sorry I forgot to mention this sooner. So called the travel agent and have asked her to work out our flight. Someone in Ariels loop, my age. Turns out she lived on the Big Island for 11 yrs! and suggested a whole new course of action and area there. Now we're cookin'. Sadly I am not getting any news I feel good about with this animal quarantine situation. Will fill you all in later as things unfold.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Dear Gouge - To further honor your words not here not long ago (and I think we were all really taken by the strength and intuition - Anyway I have prepared this 'preview page' link below - and with your permission I want to include it in my journal The 3rd Page - Vol. 2 (summer 2003) - What say? RSVP here or my e-mail. Tx - Hammond

A Digger's Day Is Never Done (draft) http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/gouge.html

Name: Cat D
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi all and I hope that you enjoyed your weekend. I am still waiting to recieve my copy of Coyotes sleeping w.........

I recieved a letter today from a local university where I represent some union members on the staff they informed me that after due consideration they accepted my grievance about their organisation using descriminatory working practices (race discrimination) and that it was both actual and institutionaly racist. I won a substantial settlement for a porter so I am off out to celebrate.

Great pics by the way , but who is who (obvious not meaning Nichole) please tell.

bye for now

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: duffle bag
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Loft sit??..hell, I can dig graves and ring bells,..I may infiltrate and free-up another Church. Know anyone needing a stand-in Gargoil??...It's all in the stars. Im' not fleeing; Im' stategically retreating. Ive' molted and came out on top. Heres my stratigy; REALITY. (what a concept)..this ship is sinking. What to do???...take a lesson from nature; (Run like a Rat). Ive' shed so many shackles since first logging on here at the Digger web site,..I cant' remember the last time that I even carried a knife. Disarming is much like shaving one's head I Imagine,..very refreshing. The bed?..ya, that is a Jim Dandy. Its safe here until one of us picks it up. No sweat. Will keep you all posted. Damn Sam!! You are beating me out the door by a few days!...(My timing is off)..we gotta get it all back together. OK???..hey, if ya' can get a flight that lands ya' there at night. Thats a trip. Aloha

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Yes Eric, Niucole, Steve, Mark..great pictures!! Wish I had some to add. Maybe once I settle and can show off my new home!

Hammond..I am aiming to be out of here around March 27. Have not made full committment yet by buying ticket. Can't decide whether to start off camping and just wing it and see what it's like and what area we like, or to take a place near friends that is avaiable. I think by tomorrow I will have to make a decision. It's either be near friends and be in their loop or create our own. I'm having a steady Libra attack on this and what animals to take and today I seriously have to resort my stuff. AAAuugh! Yes No maybe yeah but..etc and so on. Yeah I got to nail this sucker down and get on with the show!

Thanks Nicole for the input. I can guess how crucial that situation must be.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

The red monkeys read like Imam to me...fess up!

Ohio Girl - I can't stand the suspense! Please e-mail me the anecdote.

Mark - Lookin good my man!

Steve - How is the burrowing out coming along?

Eileen - When do you actually move to the islands?

 

Name: SerialRedMonkeys (Revisited)
EmailAddress: no-way-jose.com
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

From Today: March 10 2003

Washington: The Pentagon is about to take the first public step to produce an earth-penetrating nuclear weapon that could be aimed at North Korea's underground nuclear and missile production facilities, Bush Administration officials say. Within a week, an air force report is to be delivered to the House of Representative and the Senate, stating the military requirements for the "robust nuclear earth penetrator," a device designed to dig into the ground before it explodes and crushes any facility buried beneath it. David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security and an expert on North Korea, said, "It is a bad idea to develop these things, which probably would never be used, and do so openly. It develops a lot of paranoia among proliferating states who believe the US is planning to attack them."

SerialRed Monkeys Archive -

 

Raison(s) du NOT

Iraq is NOT (thus far) associated with the 9-11 attack on America.

[Thus far the Bush Administration has NOT presented any evidence that Iraq is supporting or harboring anyone who had anything to do with the 9-11 attack on the World Trade Center (WTC).]

Attacking Iraq will NOT reduce terrorist attacks against or in the United States.

The War on Terrorism (WOT) is a war against independent groups and individuals associated with Al Qaida, the Taliban and Osama bin Ladin - NOT entire nations.

Wars against nations (WANs) will increase only increase risk for terrorist attacks - NOT reduce them.

Impragmata

The timetable is flexible but will be dictated by strategic and military readiness and NOT something else.

A country that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death. - Martin Luther King, April 4, 1967 - NYC

Linkage to Survival

http://www.stopthewaragainstiraq.org http://www.saveageneration.org http://www.iacenter.org/ http://www.wfp.org/index2.html http://www.ifrc.org/

 

Catabatic Wind Chime(s)

Hawkish fine-line traders support devices back benched with unease, isolationism - chaos - carnage and spiritual disease are (re)formulating New World ordered interdependence aforethought.

 

BETWEEN THE BUTTONS

The Administration’s Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator, (RNEP) study and review of nuclear weapons policy, known as the Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) has arrived in all its glory. The vaguely defined study examines whether the nuclear explosives from existing stockpiles can be reformulated so that they could smash deep into Earth [into the underdesert] and destroy reinforced bunkers and tunnel complexities.

The report states that vaguely described explosive packages (EPs) would need to be reformulated to limit the per person ratios of radioactive fallout and damage to non-targeted areas, such as elementary schools.

Some scientists and elementary school teachers say that this cannot be done.

The NPR study is the first Alpha One project for the new teams of formerly unemployed scientists the Bush administration has installed at the Department of Energy and the Lawrence Livermore, Sandia and Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratories in order to increase the intellectual creativity of nuclear weapons scientists and to encourage them to freely explore their new ideas.

In The Meanest Time

This Is NOT a Test!

An unidentified Shadow Source indicates that the Bush administration is pressing for the development of low yield nuclear bombs to decimate underground targets. This is an ugly issue that hasn't been looked at for nearly 30 years, largely due to the ill-defined dispersion of electromagnetic pulse vulnerabilities, in a society such as ours, that occurs post detonation anywhere and everywhere within the line-of-sight of the resultant explosions from these patently anti-social shield devices. The last time the US tested one of these despicable weapons of mass disintegration they used a four-megaton device leeched to a Spartan rocket.

Basic Resource Guide http://www.basicint.org/US_nukepolicy.htm

Catabatic Wind Chime #2

The United States has produced around 70,000 nuclear weapons of 71 major types since their invention, and there are now roughly 9600 such weapons of 10 major types in the U.S. arsenal.

Actual production of new warheads halted in 1989.

Leaked portions of the 2002 Nuclear Posture Review have raised alarm that the US may develop mini-nuclear weapons.

Congress must first authorize new nuclear weapon systems or modification of existing nuclear weapons--

This is most controversial considering that all but one of the current U.S. nuclear weapons, if used as bunker busters, would undoubtedly result in massive clouds of uncontrolled radioactive fallout.

We politely ask that ALL members of the Bush Administration rethink this nuclear posturing.

More nuclear weapons will only upset the remaining balance of sense and sensibility.

(Re)Source LAW

The groundwork for a comprehensive treaty regime preventing the militarization of outer space has been laid, and the importance of this objective is clear. Much work remains, but the creation of a space regime, under which the international community decisively enshrines space as a peaceful environment, is the only thoroughgoing alternative to a weaponized space free-for-all in which the United States and the rest of the world is rendered forever vulnerable to the vagaries and fluctuations of technological development.

Abolition http://www.hookele.com/abolition2000/

SerialRed Sludge Retort

Leaking sludge reports (LSRs) concerning the (im) plausible use of tactical nuclear weapons against tactically nonnuclear countries continues to enhance the Asymmetrical Threat Problems (ATPs) designed to eliminate doubt about U.S. willingness to respond with untested weapons of mass disintegration (WAMs).

Ongrowing concern retorts that the underminions of Dr. StrangeBush (appear to) endorse pre-emptive strikes.

While responding (rather blindly) to terrorist attacks against one's homeland is one thing, claiming the right to strike first is quite another. That would be indefensible, not to mention really, really stupid. This resurgent commitment under the White House to old, new and quite possibly used weapons of unilaterally assured disintegration (WOUDs) does some serious-real carnage to the more reliable concept(s) of international nonproliferation.

This MADness WOUD completely undermine the formative efforts by millions of sane human beings to rid the world of its massive (and individually) disintegrating tools (DTs) .

We politely ask that ALL members of Dr. StrangeBush's Cabinet, agency directors, spokesmouthpuppets and cadre of WAR blathering sub-minions of Jihad rethink this nuclear posturing. More nuclear weapons will only upset the remaining balance of sense and sensibility.

They will also keep us awake at night!

DON'T REGRET THE FUTURE!

Alternative Action Center http://www.gzcenter.org/

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

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Nicole,

The picture was taken on Forest Highway 93 near Grizzly Peak along the South Fork of the Scott River. We were coming from Forks of Salmon through Cecilville and out to Callahan in the Scott River Valley. We then headed over to Etna and then Yreka for some steaks and brew. I have some pictures of Black Bear including some pics of the inside of the main house that I will send to Eric so maybe he will put them up. I gotta find them first.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark, nice pic...Eel River?

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Hello on another cold morning, but the taste of Spring was blissful.

Mark, how good to see your photo!

Hammond, if everyone had already read the book, I'd tell you how the ending of it simply blew me away.

Steve, you are a survivor. I'm sorry about the church and the people being helped, if it truly closes down. And look at it this way (which has cheered me up in some rough patches), you can go by a high school knowing that you never, ever have to wake up in the morning and attend those classes ever again!

I sure intend to watch "The Pentagon Papers," I was glad to read about it here because we don't look to see what's on TV as much as we used to, what with our odd work schedules or maybe it's the advancing age thing. Peace

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Eric, thanks so much for the photos, can you e-mail me direct so I can print them for my album? I did have such a great evening with the two of you...and puleese, you look fab!

Eileen, I posted a note of encouragement on your other site to the man you mentioned...he makes three men that I know of with similar circumstance...also Lynnies sister Laurie's husband as well...never smoked a cigarette but got throat cancer anyway.

Steve, If I can help you I will, the apartment isn't mine, I'm really a visitor there myself so I can't offer up that, but let me know, I may be able to find a loft sitting temporary thing, being I am a real estate broker here...I'll keep my ears open...hey and if we find you a spot...you already have a great bed! love, NIk

Rna, thanks for the note

Everyone, on Saturday, I left my house to go to the dry cleaner a block away...it was so beautiful and warm and the sun shining bright, that I just kept walking...it was 8:30 am...I walked up hudson street and went into the Chelsea garden center...oh my gawd...what a great place, then back out onto the sidewalk and thinking this is so great to be walking in the morning sunlight here in Manhattan...I just kept walking...and walking untill I was standing at the edge of the ground zero "bath tub" which is what they call the remaining retaining wall that sort of held it all in...then I walked across to the hudson and south again untill I got to the Staten Island Ferry...so I got on and rode across passed the State of Liberty...then back across to Manhattan and walked north up the Hudson River Park promenade and back home...it was 1:00 when I got back...and yesterday...Sunday...I walked from home to my office...which is across town from the west side at Bank and Hudson to 2nd avenue and East 47th then back down 2nd ave and 10th street... after that I took a cross town bus back home...it was a marvelous week end.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve, thanks for the suggestion. Paul Goodman wrote a piece on the Diggers (something like "Diggers in 1984" I believe -- I'll have to look it up when I get back to my library). I think Goodman was entranced by the Diggers, but the feeling wasn't mutual. Grogan was his impertinent self to most older left-leaning politicos, especially those who had made it. Mostly, the only older generation that got Emmett's respect were the Beats. I could be off-base here, if anyone takes exception to this characterization, please write back. In any case, Goodman's piece didn't impress me when I read it, but I should go back and check it out again to see if that's still true.

By the way, I really was stunned by your gift when we met. I will save it for a very special occasion and share it with a large group of co-conspirators. Muchas besos y gracias.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

Shake hands? Hey, it was a little cold up there and I was just keepin' it warm okay. Actually I think I had to take a leak.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Eric,..I use to run with a much older crowd who were very tight with Paul Goodman. They all went back to the Chicago collage days if I recall. The reason that I bring it up, is that I once read that Paul had done some writting about the Diggers. Now, I assume that the article was refering to the Original English Clan. Any input on that? Is any of Goodmans writting logged into your archive?...you might want to run that down. Hammond; I will definatly finish readind AsEverWas. (I have a dead line now.)

Name: Dr. Boyd
EmailAddress: Eye See You  (I.C.U. get it?)
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Eileen, I used kid gloves on that cat with my ussual bed-side manner. I only used one swear word which the censored. Wow, you can talk about cutting a man's tounge out, but ya' cant say "SHIT". Makes ya' appreciate the Digger web site dont it??

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Thanks so much Steve. I know you will be an angel at this time for him. No one could possibly know what this is about without having been there. I have a headache and can't stay with this tonight. Catch you tomorrow.

Name: r n a
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Nicole, a friend is copying "Hippie Revolution" and sending it to you. it will be a 3rd generation tape (taped off of a copy of the original) but, hey, it's fun to see lots of familiar faces and places.

Hammond, amazon just e mailed me that your book has been sent. am looking forward to reading it.

 

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Cool; I will try to break it to this cat very gently,..without any foul language etc. (I aint gonna recommend the cold turkey drug-free recovery unless he's been married at least three times, though)...I will also leave the part out where Im' lucky to be alive. Hell,..how can I put it any other way: other than "Cancer Aint Shit". But really,..maybe I touched upon this once on this site already; see a shit-load of church folks laid hands on and preyed. Plus, my oldest daughter Erin, her mom (Sweet Lorraine) and my Holy Lady Reverend Jackie did the same prior to surgery; we all joined hands. Now, Im' not discounting the power of the Female Druid thing; but it is possible that by being layed out and layed open during 18 hrs. of radical sugery caused my nerve endings to deaden. (as Im' still regaining feeling (pins & needles) in many areas. (maybe I aint so tough after all)...that being said; if this cat is only going under for a couple of hours, hell; he may come out of it a hurtin' puppy. In any event; I will give him the ol' pep talk. Thanks Mia. Hey,... how about a baldy photo??!! (red stockings and all) Oh, the Tarot Card...Hmm...not sure of the spelling,..but how about Hyrophant. (any experts care to help me out on that one?)

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve~Glad I didn't simply offend you. The Fool? I don't think so.

I just pulled this off my other site. If I could email this to you I would have. Would you please take a look. Thought you might be of some help. Please let me know if you can't get it.

http://www.efc-inc.com/boards/friends/messages/7794.shtml

 

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Mark!..Ide' shake hands; but I can see that you are busy. No shit, you look as if you have kept in shape. (clean living?)... take care.

Name: The Fool
EmailAddress: Both Ways
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Real???...what a concept! "I" dont think that "I" could play "Me"...tough act to follow. Of course, "Ive'" been under-studying for over fifty years now...Hmmm...maybe "I" could break-a-leg and give "Me" "My" first "Real" break in the Biz. Naaaa...no good!..ya' gotta' learn act one before ya' can go on too act two. Man.....God is one hell of a booking agent.

Name: Just Plain Steve
EmailAddress: down a few notches
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

I hear ya Mother Witch; (and you too Mig Mamma)..after consulting the three coins, Im' outa here on the first of next month. It's been a good run. I cut the Preacher Lady loose and will find Clawdia the Cat a loving home, give away whats still givable and head out of Port with the first "One Thousand" that Ive' had in many Moons. Having somewhat weened myself off of the milk train ages ago; I dont know what to do with all of that cash. (or what my many dependants will do without it) In any event, I will skip the soup kitchens and bread lines and distance myself from the lost boys. I can live on 2 six packs of Liquid Ensure per day and shit, shower, shave and maybe even work-out a bit at a centrally located Gym/Health Club after scoring a year's membership and recycle a fresh change of duds through the dry cleaners every week. I can catch Zee's in the steam room or in the Park on sunny days or book a week at the White House Hotel down on Bowery to get a solid weeks worth of down time per month... or crash there full time and finnish a few novels. (Its got more Ghosts than the Clelsea.) The pews at the Bowery Mission may also beckon. Getting off of my "Save The World Kick" and on to my "Save My Ass" kick would give me skads of time to fuck off and get a real New York Public Library Education (Priceless) and maybe start a few back-burner projects such as walking the entire length of every street on the Island of Manhatten (which I started three years ago)....or become a fully Illustrated Man one Tattoo at a time. In any event, I will make the best of Exile. Oh, a Dream Actor's life. (ahh...make that "A Life Actor's Dream). In closing: It's a crazy world: and Im' a happy guy. Ya' relly think that Im' what's wrong with this country???..(that's been buggin' me).......

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Here is a photo of me to add to the posts I make. This was taken on a trip back from Forks of Salmon last year.


Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond....I just ordered your book....Im looking forward to reading it

Steve....I have a few trips to make to Brooklyn in the next few weeks....Ill stop by

Name: Mark Hebard
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond,

Thanks for the suggestion. I sent the image and some words to Eric.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Mark - if you have your own web page just make a page with the photo and then post the url - otherwise I think you need eric's help -

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Help.... I have a jpeg image of myself I want to post here. How do I paste it on this page?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: been there done that
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve~"ever lose your' job, your' home and your' church all at the same time???" Yes. Take a hint. You are being drop kicked by the Universe. Remember when we first started talking about a move? You must have put it out there and it's now being answered. Not a good idea to ignore the Big Mama (and I don't mean me!). Time to pick a landing spot or you'll find yourself some place by default. With all you've got to make it easy, that would be a poor choice (in my humble opinion). Is there some reason you feel the need to be the asetic? An asetic with $1000 a month? You can't play it both ways if you're for real. If you were a card in the Tarot right now, which one would it be?

I don't mean to be jumping the gun here or coming off some kind of way. But I sense you are dancing the edge of the gifts that many would feel relief and gratitude to have. They can be taken away if you don't want what is being offered and choose to do it the hard way. As the gypies say (so I've heard) "Leave while it's good."

Name: Steve O.M.U.
EmailAddress: strike
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Joe; I once walked out of an open shop circle jerk at a glue factory and was surprised when I looked behind me at the long line of 3rd shifters. The place went dark. It was some pain in the ass for em' to replace the entire 3rd shift. (but they were glad to see our Tee Shirts go). "Third Shift / We Do Glue"

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Damn Steve that is sad! Good man who is doing it though.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: all the lonely people
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Well,..I just got word that I will be sweeping up some rice today after a very small private cerimony. The bride is dying of cancer. Im' not reading it as a sign...but,..save the Peace Church?...No man is an Island.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Ohio Girl: Thanks so much for the post! and - to Michael Ellsberg for his as well.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

No one but you is fighting this? As a union activist I was able to derail a few done deals in my time. So there may still be hope. Best of luck.....keep the beard its you

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: hell if I know ahh...make that Desolation Row
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Washington Square United Methodist Church update: Well; I just heard from a very solid source that word from the very top is that it's a "Done Deal". I am on my own in respect to "Saving The Peace Church". Fuck;...ever lose your' job, your' home and your' church all at the same time??? Well, they cant take my Birthday away from me!..Hell, if I do hit the Bowery again, I will be the richest cat on the street of lost men. (thats some comfort)...but not much.....Ahhhh Shit!

Name: Mc Mingus
EmailAddress: not so happy today
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Ohio Girl ... thanks for your insightful post. Too much information on the 'Net if you really want it, a corrective to the false & manipulated info from the mainstream -- UK Guardian & CounterPunch.org particularly informative, Rense.com useful if you get past the UFO graphics at the top. Best bet, since peaceful protest seems to be nothing but a sideshow -- prayer & meditation. There are indeed Powers & Principalites that shape the world beyond our consciousness, and help from above seems to be what we truly need now. Sunday, a good day to look beyond. Aside from that, I'd say the strongest thing you can do is stay high & happy, do the usual things that turn you on. And treat your loved ones with a little extra care today.

Name: Michael Ellsberg
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Tonight (Sunday March 9th), the made-for-TV movie "The Pentagon Papers," starring James Spader as Daniel Ellsberg and Claire Forlani as Patricia Ellsberg, premieres on the FX cable TV station, 8 PM Eastern/Pacific. The movie is not based on "Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers," (the script was written before "Secrets" came out), and oddly, FX never contacted Dan about the film or consulted him in any way. (The only contact, an impersonal one, was to send Ellsberg.Net--along with hundreds of other websites--a mass email after the film was made, asking that we place their banner ad on the site, in exchange for a link from theirs, which we did). Someone with access to the film, who thought Dan should be able to see the film that portrays him before it airs, "leaked" Dan an advance copy of the film (FX never gave it to him and was dismayed he had seen it before tonight). One would think, with so little interest in contacting Dan or using him as a source for the movie, that the film would be negative. Surprisingly, it is a respectful (though unnecessarily fictionalized) and sympathetic portrayal, with a timely and important underlying message. Here are some of Dan's thoughts on the film:

"Every bit of dialogue is completely fictional (with the exception of a dozen lines or so, mainly in my interview with Cronkite), nothing happened very closely to the way it is portrayed, and there are errors in almost every minute of the film. In fact, the script often has me saying things that I not only didn't say, but I never would have said; in many cases they are the opposite of what I believed. The same is true for most of the dialogue associated with other named characters; they obviously weren't consulted any more than I was. You could say that everything is wrong, in some degree: and yet, the overall story is true to the underlying feeling of the events.

"They have made a good movie, with an important message--in favor of whistleblowing-- that I would endorse; and the timeliness of the message, undoubtedly by accident, is uncanny. The inaccuracies of the script are somewhat frustrating to me but they won't be noticed by many others, and every other aspect of the production is unusually well-done: the casting and acting, direction and editing, the photography. It was fun for Patricia and me to watch it together; we relived the start of our romance. As in the rest of script, the circumstances are all wrong, but James Spader and Claire Forlani show the electricity of our attraction, and Forlani conveys "behind her eyes"--as one reviewer put it--Patricia's intelligence as well as her beauty. We found it a gripping film, and I think others will too: one that is true to the spirit and feeling of the events, if not the letter.

"There's a chance this film could encourage more whistleblowers, which is what makes it so timely right now. It shows that it's possible for someone with the background and values that I shared with many current officials to change perspective and to decide to tell the truth to those outside the Executive branch, and it shows that in unforeseeable ways that can be effective. It shows that the personal costs of doing this can be worthwhile, in terms of the possibility of saving lives.

"I've been using every opportunity in the last five months to convey a message to current officials who know--as I did in 1964-65-- that the president, and their bosses, are lying us into a wrongful, reckless, unnecessary war. The message, which I think is implicit in this movie, is that they should consider doing right now, before the bombs are falling, what I wish I had done at a comparable point, in the months before the onset of the Rolling Thunder bombing: going to Congress and the press with documents that undercut official lies. There is still time to avert this war with sufficiently comprehensive truth-telling, though there's only a week or two left before the bombing may begin. That's why I'm particularly happy this film is coming out at this moment. If one individual in Washington gets that message by seeing this movie, and unloads a file-drawer of revelatory current documents to the press and Congress, it could make a great difference. A war’s worth of lives is at stake."

"The Pentagon Papers"

FX

Sunday, March 9, 8:00 PM Eastern/Pacific

(If you miss it tonight, it will be playing five or six more times throughout the month. Check out www.tvguide.com or FX's page for the movie, http://www.fxnetwork.com/shows/originals/pentagon/ for listings of future showings this month.)

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Mar 2003

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I was talking on the phone to my older kid and I said that I was oddly reassured by learning that Americans lost alot of civil liberties during the World War II era, because they got them back and that means we'll get them back one day. My son answered, do you know who got the civil liberties back, it was you hippies! So what to do right now, I guess we've got our work cut out for us. For some time to come. And I like praying and meditating for peace, it's something positive to do. What a scary situation.

I'm registered for various things all over the internet, I'd register here if that's necessary to be able to appreciate everyone's individual voices.

Hammond, I put a small book review on the website where I purchased your book, buy.com. (You have to access it by "Hammond Guthrie" or "As Ever Was" three separate words). I got a good deal there and the free shipping was supposed to take up to two weeks, but I got the book in a matter of days.

Hello to everyone and Peace

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Sitting on the Bad-Boy bench
Date: 09 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey mark, I may be an issolated example, (or rather the male line of my family may be)...(long story)... but I got all the way to legal age of dropping out without learning the times tables, and my brother had to take the Army exam twice before getting addmitted because he didnt' know how many inches were in a foot, (and he was up angainst serious Jail-Time or Active Service)... as for me; hey, I can spread the blame around...lets say that I failed; they failed; the system failed; whatever...of course being Stan's little brother didnt' exactly give me an edge...same Ol' story: first day of class "Roll Call"...Bell, Banks, Beaton, Bond, Boyd...Boyd???..DO YOU HAVE A BROTHER NAMED STAN???...Oh you do; do you???...I want you to sit right over here at this desk mister!. (Hmm... I wonder what she's writting down?)...anyway, with my heritage in my corner I was able later in life to attend (unsuccesfully) a stint at a Michigan American Native Abnokie-Achie (Indian-Earth?) adult education center (mostly Chippawa) where I met a little hunch-backed Angel of a Teacher who was the dedicated type and would give a kid the answer 49 times with the hope that he would get it right the 50th. Bottom line?..Hell; they couldnt teach me a god-damn thing. Enough about me;..hey Eileen, Do It. Regretting doing it, beats the hell out of regretting not doing it. Bad dreams?..this is a bad dream. If it had come out in book form even three years ago it would have bombed. It wouldnt have made print. Think about it. 200 Billion. Shit, we could have paid them on a quarter of that to leave us the fuck alone. Or,..hey,..give em' another 1.5 Billion to fuck with the Red Chinese. Think about it. Play it like the rackets. Whats wrong with our Senate and United Nations is that there aint no Mafia Uhhh... (I mean Union Representatives) in the game. Shit, hows this,..roll the money over and just cut to the chase...make Saddam an offer that he cant refuse,.(but leave those poor people alone). Hey, did ya hear the latest??...it seems that El-Kyda may attack the Allied Forces...OH REALLY???...wow!! a war where the "Enemy" is actually gonna shoot back!!! Surprise! Surprise! Wow George! Were ya' countin' on that???! Shit; somebody could get an eye put out or somethin'!!!!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: Sat Nite Progress Report
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Had war nightmares so hard last night fiunally had to gie up sleeping. Don't think just cause I'm packing up I'm not paying attention.Haven't had those in many yrs. Hope I can get through the night tonight. Just think if we hadn't gotten our asses caught in such a crack we would have yet another ill informed generation. I'm pretty amazed how fast and how many folks are coming up to speed. All you said about this Mark..yeah I'm right there with you.

The sales at my house have started before I have even begun to sort through it. Still feel like I'm moving forward rapidly while standing still. Would that be called wheel spinning? Haven't packed one box to take. The stuff I want is rediclous but it may be what I move with..feathers, rocks..the rest is replaceable, you know? I am really wanting to continue to lighten the load..you know that one don't you Steve?

I'm actually doing pretty well after getting shit faced on tequilla yesterday and getting my mind out of the way long enough to feel the loss I feel leaving northern CA, and the voice that goes, what if this was a really bad idea? Realized I'll take some woods earth with me and stash some money with Ariel in case I can't cut it after a few months. This is sort of like death..I don't need advice I just need to go through it. There's no really easy way to make this big of a jump into the unknown and do more than freefall with the best smile I can come up with. I'm getting there now that I looked at that mess in the eye. Thanks for asking Mark.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

You're right about some of those older teachers but they have mostly gone on to their reward, whatever that is. There is still some around but they are a serious minority. I live in a "liberal" region and parrots posing as teachers don't really cut it here. And some of them know of the Diggers. If fact a known Digger is a high school teacher in this area. Angela Davis is on staff here at the local UC and Huey Newton taught here before his fatal return to the hard streets of Oakland. Mike McClure is or was a teacher at the college I attended. I am not making a list here as NYC has some of the best. I do agree that that academia can be narrowing and there is nothing like the streets of life to make serious lessons come home but the teachers who we have today are a long way from the propaganda wielding hacks of the past.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: smokin' in the boy's room
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Wow,..I knew that Ide' be hearing from some teachers...but I didnt think that it would be this soon!

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Who feels it knows It knows who feels Who knows it feels it

JahPeace

Name: Silent Steve's School for Wayward Souls
EmailAddress: Principle's Office
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

There's somethin' happinin' here. (Those who feel it: know it) My advise???..."If you cant teach: Do"

Name: Steve the Dunce
EmailAddress: Fools School, Olema Ranch, Class of '70'
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Dont get me started on Teachers. I only met one in my life time who wasnt an over-rated baby sitter, who majored in Basket-Weaving and Minored in trained parrot miming. They were lost without a high-lighted text book and the ol' "Home Work" fake-out. (my own natural Sister included)... as a collective "Brother Hood" it was Teacher Union Hacks that damn near broke my spirit. If you cant do: Teach. Those fucks were too dumb to get Mob protection. My advice to them??...fuck your' student loans, (tell George to pay em' off from his personal 200 Billion Dollar War stash,...tell the kids to go home where they can really learn a thing or two and then get in bed with your local Diggers. (spell that FREE EDUCATION) Oh,..what if there are no local Diggers??..well,..just smile and say: There are now! (think about it)

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve,

My 15 year old and some friends circulated a sign-up list at her High School for those who wanted to participate in an Anti-war Club last week. They got 150 names the first day. This in one week has developed into an organized group of students and teachers starting to offer discussion groups, teach ins, and inviting guest speakers. Not bad. I still cook the dinner and we all eat and talk together. What comes out of this war mongering threatens all of this. Each one teach one now is each one teach 150. Unions still have some punch in the Bay Area but not like before. We are under full attack of the education system here. After the raping of the California coffers by Enron, and the other Bush family business associates the state is broke and teachers are being laid off in droves, schools are closing, and college tuitions are skyrocketing. A line is being drawn in the sand between the gubermint and the teachers union. It will be ugly.

Name: Steve again and again...
EmailAddress: the other part
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Oh,...they are from the Village Voice...( A FREE PAPER!!)...check em'e web.

Name: Steve again
EmailAddress: right here
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Ahh..make that "Svelt Brunette"..Im' slippin'...hey Mark, we both know that this country is in one hell of a fix when I start making sence. (Scary aint it)......

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: and-why-see?
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Our Kids???...well,...before Our Dear Ol' Uncle Sam broke the back of the Unions;..my advice would have been "Learn A Trade"...but, Now-a-days,..Ill' be damned if I know!!...Hey, here's a Save The Peace Church update...a shaved Bull Dog and a svelt blond are here to interview and photograph some far-out musicians who are here for a Microtonal gig. They were all shits-and-giggles over my 100% OFF Sale Sign at The W.S.U.M.C. Digger Free Clothing corner...so I slipped them a note that said that I intend to launch a civil disobedience number in order to draw attention to the rug being pulled out from under our asses here at 135 West 4th Street. I directed them to this site and said that they might wanna get the scoop on it if and when the game gets rough....hey Mark; I think that I just answered your question!!!??? Maybe our kids should attempt to save a little chunk of the American way of life...whether it be a radical Peace Church or a Mom and Pop store thats about to get beaten down by Wal-Mart... our continue to talk at dinner time...if dinner still exists as I remember it. Or have the Micro waves and fast food chains stolen that too?? Shit, pass me the Hash Pipe Purberta, I feel a low commin' on. Hey!!...on second thought; inasmuch as things seemed to really shit the bed in the last century,..maybe the kiddies could continue the 21st Century Digger Movement. Ahh... who started it back up again??... ( I forget).....

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Dear Steve,

Pres. Howdy Doody is just a sorry-ass fastfood counterperson for the real terrorists that are pulling his strings. He can't think his way out of a paper bag. The "press conference" the other night made that painfully clear. In contrast, Chris Matthews ran a clip of a JFK speech in 1963 regarding the use of force that dramatically showed what a complete dickhead Bush is. The eloquence and facility of communicating was stunning. The really amazing thing is how we as a country allowed these MFs to do so much damage in so little time without so much as a whine or two from the Democrats. How in the hell did we get to this point so goddamn fast? Even if the war is averted, and I don't think it will be, the incredible damage done to the US, the United Nations, NATO and the credibility of us citizens is so far reaching at this point that many of us won't see the end of it in our lives. It is like we have been in a terrible car wreck and we aren't even sure of what our injuries are yet. What a fucking mess. I have been losing my sense of humor and the desperation of the situation has been getting me down so thanks for your sarcasm and wit, it helps. I really think that when Bush lights the fuse that the reactions world wide will be like nothing we have seen before. It is hard to say and hard to type but I think Amerika is going down hard and maybe it is for the best. But what does this mean for my kids?

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey, Ive' been thinkin' and as an Ol' artist type; I must confess that Ive' stood outside of polotics (among many other things) my entire life, and having just woke to the repercussions of a Senate gone mad...well, I may have come ocross half cocked when I said all of those terrible things about our (Im' smiling now) President.... but, auu... the deeper that I delve into this shit...well,..the more I cant help thinking that Ol' Georgie Boy is a real bad actor. World class leader???...hey,.. I wont' even go there. Hell; Im' not perfect;...but then again, I only lead myself (on?)..and I aint ready to push the button. In my mind (stop laughing) Its this basic: A kid (the world's nations) cant get mom's (Amerika's) attention: so the tears fall. No response. The kid grabs mom's apron: no responce. The kid starts yelpin': no responce. The kid bites mom's leg and gets it's ass beaten raw. America, start listening or you can expect an big ass-bite and a half. In my mind, its that simple. Im' not saying reward bad behavior...Im' just sayin' question the situation: not the people. Let the punisment fit the crime, and dont make threats that you willnot or cannot pull off. This is Ol'Mother Boyd signing off. P.S. George,..you let us down you little freakle-faced Howdy-Hoody you. (you can quote me.)

Name: A Friend
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

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Hammond: No Luck....Pure Talant! (but you knew that)

Name: PS - Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

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Me again! On second look at today's CounterPunch (bottom) Front Page: http://www.counterpunch.org/ they reprinted Stew's review of my book. My lucky day I guess! - H.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Literary Kick -

My poem "Invasion of the Flies" has been CounterPunched. http://www.counterpunch.org/poems03082003.html

Alternate View - The 3rd Page http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/fly.html

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey No-Mame: You left out the most crucial part of saying: which was the true signal and key to the puzzle that the up-tight 60's press buried in an effort to dig the Hippy Grave a few feet deeper. It goes something like this: (in the un-cut original version) "Do what thou wilt; but harm none" (But did the Manson's of this world listen???)...think about it. Thats what censorship can do.

Name: (NoName)Suspect
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Great photos of the three Diggerteers! Thanks Eric for posting them and the manifesto pages. You must have had a grand time in the library -

Steve - don't shave the chin pelt - I like the Ming 'the Magnificent' look - nothing merciless about that face! (NoName)Suspect

I will just keep one moniker step ahead of the imposter!

Do what thou wilt.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Those are great photos. It really good to put faces on words. Truly a souflul trio. Steve and Nik you look great. I will try to get some photos up myself somehow.

Eric,

The photo and text of the Manifesto is wonderful. I am printing it out for my kids to read. I don't know what the best thing to do about the identity difficulty is but I don't mind my IP numbers being up for now. It is a little disconcerting and I guess a good firewall helps. Registration seems outside the "free" context to me but I will follow whatever the consensus is.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Food For Thought
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

"Don't ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive" -Howard Thurman

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

The photos are great! I'm a photo junkie among other aspects of my addictive personality. I had never read the 1649 Digger manifesto, just vaguely heard of it, the words you printed from it here, are just awesome. Thanks!

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 08 Mar 2003

Comments

Great photos and great text. Peace

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Huun. I posted this but it's not here so will try again.

Hi All~Do not have time to chat or catch up..but wanted to let folks know about Richard Marley. Elsa called tonight and it sounds like he's about to leave us now. Prayers and thoughts to him and those caring for him. A warrior/lover, another good man passing.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Barbie and Ken from Hell
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey folks; Dig Nicole in the bottom picture; check out the Queen Goddess Of New York City's crown!!! Its actually floating above her head. Aint it the way???? So whadda ya think folks?..should I shave it all off and re-grow the Ol' Mongol scalp lock? The blood is strong! Hey, check out Papa Eric. He's everyman's favorite Uncle. (but you knew that).....

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

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And here's a couple snapshots we took of our get together at the White Horse Tavern this week. Steve and Nicole were so outasite it put my heart a flutter...



 

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

So here's the first pix taken this past week that I pulled of the digicam showing one of the original Digger manifestos from 1649. This copy is in the Rare Book room at the Fifth Avenue branch of the New York Public Library.

 

 

 

 

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Here's the third page, where it talks about buying and selling:

 

 

 

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And to prevent your scrupulous Objections, know this, That we Must neither buy nor sell; Money must not any longer (after our work of the Earths community is advanced) be the great god, that hedges in some, and hedges out others; for Money is but part of the Earth: And surely, the Righteous Creator, who is King, did never ordain, That unless some of Mankinde, do bring that Mineral (Silver and Gold) in their hands, to others of their own kinde, that they should neither be fed, nor be clothed; no surely, For this was the project of Tyrant-flesh (which Land-lords are branches of) to set his Image upon Money. And they make this unrighteous Law, That none should buy or sell, eat, or be clothed, or have any comfortable Livelihood among men, unless they did bring his Image stamped upon Gold or Silver in their hands.

And whereas the Scriptures speak, That the mark of the Beast is 666, the number of a man; and that those that do not bring that mark in their hands, or in their foreheads, they should neither buy nor sell, Revel. 13.16. And seeing the numbering Letters round about the English money make 666, which is the number of that Kingly Power and Glory, (called a Man.) And seeing the age of the Creation is now come to the Image of the Beast, or Half day. And seeing 666 is his mark, we expect this to be the last Tyrannical power that shall raign; and that people shall live freely in the enioyment of the Earth, without bringing the mark of the Beast in their hands, or in their promise; and that they shall buy Wine and Milk, without Money, or without price, as Isiah speaks.

For after our work of the Earthly community is advanced, we must make use of Gold and Silver, as we do of other metals, but not to buy and sell withal; for buying and selling is the great cheat, that robs and steals the Earth one from another: It is that which makes some Lords, others Beggers, some Rulers, others to be ruled; and makes great Murderers and Theeves to be imprisoners, and hangers of little ones, or of sincere-hearted men.

And while we are made to labor the Earth together, with one consent and willing minde; and while we are made free, that every one, friend and foe, shall enjoy the benefit of their Creation, that is, To have food and rayment from the Earth, their Mother; and every one subiect to give accompt of his thoughts, words, and actions to none, but to the one onely righteous Judg, and Prince of Peace; the Spirit of Righteousness that dwells, and that is now rising up to rule in every Creature, and in the whole Globe. We say, while we are made to hinder no man of his Priviledges given him in his Creation, equal to one, as to another; what Law then can you make, to take hold upon us, but Laws of Oppression and Tyranny, that shall enslave or spill the blood of the Innocent? And so your Selves, your Judges, Lawyers, and Justices, shall be found to be the greatest Transgressors, in, and over Mankinde.

But to draw neerer to declare our meaning, what we would have, and what we shall endevor to the uttermost to obtain, as moderate and righteous Reason directs us; seeing we are made to see our Privileages, given us in our Creation, which have hitherto been denied to us, and our Fathers, since the power of the Sword began to rule, And the secrets of the Creation have been locked up under the traditional, Parrat-like speaking, from the Universities, and Colledges for Scolars, And since the power of the murdering, and theeving Sword, formerly, as well as now of late yeers, hath set up a Govenment, and maintains that Government; for what are prisons, and putting others to death, but the power of the Sword to enforce people to that Government which was got by Conquest and Sword, and cannot stand of it self, but by the same murdering power? That Government that is got over people by the Sword and kept by the Sword, is not set up by the King of Righteousness to be his Law, but by Covetousness, the great god of the world; who hath been permitted to raign for a time, times, and dividing of time and his government draws to the period of the last term of his allotted time; and then the Nations shall see the glory of that Government that shall rule in Righteousness, without either Sword or Spear, ...

Name: Mc ming o' phile
EmailAddress: ***
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Eric .. don't know what a sane person could do about bogus names. One might have thought we were free of the usual BS here, but maybe not.

I have registered elsewhere, & would if nec. here.

I change my monicker everytime because I think the regulars have the sense to recognize a kindred spirit, but it is a pain in the wazoo.

peace .. out .. -- blue

Oh yeah -- Don't Give Up the Fight !

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

I was watching the United Nations proceedings on Cspan this morning, which is more intellectual than I usually get. My husband, who was working, wanted me to watch and see what Colin Powell said. (Actually Colin Powell spoke very well, it's just that he draws a different conclusion than almost the entire world wants.) I really got into it, it was fascinating to see representatives from all over the world, giving their impassioned views about the situation in Iraq. Wow, our United Nations at work. Then I remembered that the reason I was watching it, probably the only reason it was being televised, was because the U.S. is trying to declare them irrelevant. What a bummer. Peace

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge; I crossed your Email address off of the bathroom wall ages ago, so drop me a kite, and please drop the mystery also. Keep your secret I.D. but no more chasing rainbows, OK? ....I cant deal with Phantasy...no room in my life for it. If I was in an 8x8 cell...maybe. Please get real and keep it real. P.S. Whats yer' sign? That could help...as I can see now that Ive' been handeling you wrong for to long. Later. Steve. Hey Eric; me dissapointed???...No way. Keep up the good work. Oh...United Nations???...If I read Bush correctly; Fuck; why have one. His "do-as-I-say-and-not-as-I-do" approach sends one hell of a message to the Free World dont it? (Did I say Free?)...

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Oh, I took the opportunity to archive the February and beginning March messages.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey, all. Just got access to the web again after almost a week travelling. The highlight was the evening with Nicole and Steve, soul sister and brother to be sure. Will post a snapshot we asked someone to take when I get access to the digicam pix. That may be a few days unless the Digital Wallet can hook up to my laptop. They were disappointed, I'm sure, that I don't look like myself 20 years ago. But whereas some of us haven't aged well, those two certainly are stunning in looks and conversation. Nicole embodies the spirit of all the Digger women I've ever met. And Steve, well he's not silent he's telepathic. His voice was so loud I realized later that he was in my head with his thoughts.

I'm concerned about the problems people are having with their online identities here. One solution would be to display the IP addresses in each message. I did this before. For anyone who uses the same computer to type messages, it would "authenticate" their postings. Let me know if you think I should do this. People didn't like this when I did it before because it somehow seemed too "big brother".

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Cat, some of us have known eachother for 30 + years, some of us have met here...it's run by Eric Nobel who I just met for the first time Wednesday evening as he's out here doing some research...I met Steve here in NYC last year after meeting him here on the site...Eric showed us the digital photos he took at the NY public library reference dept on wednesday of the original 1600's manifesto of the original english diggers...what an awesome thing to see...he'll post it here when he gets back to California. Sounds like you have a pretty interesting life Cat, let us keep hearing from you okay.

Eileen, busy packing? anyway I can help from this side of the planet? jes'holler. with warm regards, Nik

Everyone else, see you on Monday...ciao

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Cat, some of us have known eachother for 30 + years, some of us have met here...it's run by Eric Nobel who I just met for the first time Wednesday evening as he's ot here doing some research...I met Steve here in NYC last year after meeting him here on the site...Eric showed us the digital photos he took at the NY public library reference dept on wednesday of the original 1600's manifesto of the original english diggers...what an awesome thing to see...he'll post it here when he gets back to California. Sounds like you have a pretty interesting life Cat, let us keep hearing from you okay.

Eileen, busy packing? anyway I can help from this side of the planet? jes'holler. with warm regards, Nik

Name: Cat D
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey Dr Sponge

Yes I do know what your talking about. Looks like same union and same region If the office you mention is over the road from the Crown.Next time you are over let me know.Thank you Patric and you too Steve, Mark thanks for the info I will look into buying them books any time you want to chat is great by me.So what gives here do you all know each other or have you just met on line? Who runs the site and howcome its completely free.(dumb question knowing the diggers) Any how cant stay I am working late tonight see you all soon and have a great weekend.

Name: patrick
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

McMingus- I think we will probably cross paths sooner or later. Patman

Name: No Name
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Is the coast clear yet? -Anonymite(no name)

Name: McMingus
EmailAddress: can't
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Patrick .. I'm a fellow Ashevillean, any way we could actually make contact ? I don't like to publish my e-mail, I get too much spam no matter what I do. Just give me a clue, maybe we can hook up.

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve of course we can either on screen or you can email me what ever i will be away for 2 days all things going well so reply wont be imediate

Name: ButchT
EmailAddress: butchone@aol.com
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

Thanks for letting me sign the guestbook it is a popular one

Make 10% monthly on you money http://www.1heluva.com/cgi-bin/join.cgi?refer=13474

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2003

Comments

I have to stop being such a news junkie, I sure didn't enjoy that political speech last night. I don't like us-against-the-world-if-necessary. I did learn a nice word on CNN though, "mouse potato." I guess being a mouse potato is better than being a couch potato. More modern!! Hello and Peace

Name: patrick
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Welcome Cat. Hello all. Once again I have just returned from my 2 day run to North Georgia. The bible bangin' baptists are alive and well there singing the praises of St. George W.the patron saint of toxic clowns.It's good to be back in Asheville among the abnormal minority.

It looks like I missed some of the monkeyshines going on with assorted members of this our present crew. I must be sick as hell. I've only been posting here on occasion for the last couple weeks and catching up on the last 2 days interactions have not confused me at all.hmmm.

Hey pussy that thing on Michael J. was quite revolting.A better sight is www.pixyland.org. Then hit on the peter pan page, This guy is really a whack job but in a sweet way. Quite hilarious.

Oh yea, I think I mentioned before www.landoverbaptist.com Now that site is hysterical, recommended to one and all. PEACE, Patman AKA Captain Sobriety

P.s. That bottle of Irish dew you been blabbin' about sounds rightous. Have a few for me.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: United Auto Workers
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Dear Cat: I worked side by side with Women on many a job. They had to hold up their end of it and then some!! Once in a great while a female slacker would come along and every prick and his brother would say: "She's taking up a good man's job!...too which I would reply: "No..she's taking up a good Woman's job!" (Think About it)...Keep up the fight...(and it is a fight)..You owe it to our Children. Your's in UNITY. Steve Boyd. U.A.W. P.S. I have a commection somewhere in reference to the Union Workers for Peace movement here in the States. I will try to dig it up and post it. (if I didnt already)...Take Care...P.S. Hey Sponge; even when it wasnt a closed shop, I was O.M.U. (One Man Union) can we talk???...

Name: Princess Peussie
EmailAddress: i.a.a@37.com
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Hello to everyone....Oprah and Michael Jackson...What a wonderful combo for raising our sights and getting food to the starving children of the world. I love to see that Michael sitting on his little train and his umbrella high over his head with not a care in the world...and NeverDoWell Ranch with its sleep-overs is so wonderful. THIS NEWEST JACKSON HOME PAGE just blew my mind as it's so thorough and delightful, with a lovely sense of humor. I cannot wait for the photo album within a week....PLEASE READ THIS AND ENJOY!! Yours, Princess Peussie along with sister Princess Fluff and Mojo and friends:::::::

http://www.geocities.com/pocitojuanito/MICHAEL_JACKSON.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Nic- Thanks - We look forward to the 'mugshot'. - Has the snow melted yet?

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi Cat and thanks for the compliment about l,pool and may i return them for Belfast.

I think that through your description that we may have met or been in the same room. your union activities in Harland may have brought us in contact. To save the guilty/innocent i will use first names only. Do you know Cecil through work and union and if I said Terry was replaced by Paul does that make sense.let me know via this site I like Belfast I usualy go to the crown city centre opposite the union building.let me know

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond...nice. It also allowed me to read some of his other stuff...by the way, I found the photo of my "friend" so I'll snail it to you today...let me know...I'm ever so curious.

I'm wondering if you knew Luigi Alphono (film maker amoung other things)in Bolinas? Or Martha Wax? Rick Lloyd?

Name: NY Friend
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

I mean: "Peaced Off!" - as in "Bush - Peace on You!"

Name: NY Friend
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

New T-Shirt motto: "PEACE OFF!"

France, Germany and Russia are now accepting orders via your local consulate.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Well Eric it looks like you could take that walk down a snow hushed Lafayette St. again if you want after all!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi Mark - and all. Stew Albert wrote quite a nice review for his web site - and for amazon.com - http://hometown.aol.com/stewa/journalpage.html Thanks again for all of your encouraging comments - and should any of you who enjoyed the read be so inclined - please feel free to post a word of your own at amazon with my gratitude!

Steve and Nic - Looking forward to the trip (May?) - which is still without a ticket!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Welcome Cat,

It is an interesting introduction you have posted and your Union work is a positive move in what seems like a less positive world at this point. From your first post I would also recommend reading "Totem Salmon: Life Lessons From Another Species" by Freeman House. Barnes and Noble has it so Amazon may have it too. He and several other former Diggers have dedicated themselves to this effort in Northern California. Hammond Guthrie, a regular here on the list, has a new book out "As Ever Was" which is a great walk through those times giving lots of insight into the evolution of the 60's. Peter Berg (the Hun) and Judy Goldhaft founded Planet Drum Foundation in 1973 in San Francisco which began the Bioregional environmental movement which was an extension of the "back to the land" movement that came out of the early communes of the 60's. They are very active now and their website is: www.planetdrum.org

This list can get way off the wall at times, it can be confusing and distracting. I accept this as the nature of a free-for-all forum bringing out many interesting and sometimes damn obscure motivations. I tend to respond to stuff that deals with my own outlook and pass over the others.

I have used my real name and email on this site for a couple of years without any troubles. I put it up on the header above occasionally to offer a place to respond about something I might be working on. I realize this can be a little risky but it is a personal choice. Some folks need or want to remain a mystery so I try to respect that.

Oh yea, my college bound niece recently visited Ireland and participated in the Anti-war marches there. She brought home some of the placards and has them pinned up on her wall. Very cool.

Hey Tomas,

I will beam at 7am. The coffee is just starting to kick in about then.

Name: Name in Hiding
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Great to have to back Cat D. - but due to the current state of identity theft enter and repsond at your own risk - there are bugs that need some ironing out by Eric once he returns from the land of Steve and Nik. You will really enjoy Coyote's book. Hammond's book too if you get around to it - but be advised - Sproge/nana/Suzanne is on the take and make here because he/she/it does not have a real time life to live.

Hey Steve, Nik and Eric - sounds like you guys had a great ole evening. Wish I could have been there but I no longer have a name! IAM - Hidden from View for now. Peace to all (well nearly all because well wishing doesn't seem to affect the dull witted)

Name: Cat D
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Hello again and thank you all for the welcome.

My name as I said earlier is Catherine and nobody calls me Cat, it just looks better on screen so I will stick with it. I ordered Coyotes sleeping where.... from Amazon and it will be here soon.(cant wait) Too answer a few questions , I an still single and staying that way, I work for Harland and wolf a ship builders and I am heavily involved with the trade union movement fighting for workers rights. Thats both male and female.I have spoken at a great many public venues ie TUC congress etc on many issues. My ambition is too work full time for the union where I personaly find that women are under represented. I am not a feminist with a capital F but if I see inequality I just change it - no permission, no favours, just me taking what I believe is right.Yes I do get in to Liverpool a lot, It is the warmest friendliest city in the world and I like too spend time there either through work or socialy. Being Irish I do spend a load of time and money down the pub but what the hell the cracks good and you only live once. I read the earlier postings and someone has a great sense of mischief about them and its great. (dont ever lose it) but I now am a bit confused as to who is who. I am at work at the moment using their computer but I am getting my own PC in a few weeks .Is it ok if i share my new email adress here?

see you all soon Cat D

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Tomas, exellent posting!!! I will cut and past and send it out on my e-mail address book...thank you

Had a wonderful time with Eric and Steve last evening...sitting in an historic tavern in NYC talking about some historic times and discussing some future plans and giving thought to just how are we incorporating our lessons learned from our past experiences into our daily lives now...

Eric has not been near a computer since he left for this trip that is why the posts on this and FFR that are sometimes, edited, have not been...you kids just wait till Dad gets home!!

ps. Thanks for the vote of confidence Steve...

...it's 9:15 am and snowing huge giant snowflakes...beautiful

Name: Peace Beam - 5 minutes in the morning
EmailAddress: Tom Diaz
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

From: Ramon Sender Subject: 5 minutes in the AM

 

On the list

and also posted to the WELL Jewish, Buddhist and Spirituality conferences as well as to other lists, a group of us have begun meditating a‘peacebeam’ together at 7 AM Pacific Time - that's 10 AM East Coast, etc. -- for just five minutes.

The suggestion was that we gather ourselves into one great glorious WHOOOOM of LOVE POWER and reach out to those poor paranoid leaders who feel like they're sitting on a cataclysm's bull's eye and just gurgle them up into warm, bubbly frothy chi better than any orgasm can possibly feel and keep them there until all their testosterone- inspired need to lock antlers just melts away.

Remember, the group mind listens to a high-energy transmission if it's synchronized. The hundred-and-oneth-plus monkeys are about to get the great idea to wash their sweet potatoes.

PLEASE PASS THIS ON - WE NEED EVERYONE!

 

For those who would like more specific suggestions:

First, take a few seconds to center and breathe a few relaxed breaths, and visualize your "transmitter" warming up. When you are ready, at or about 7 AM beam the following message:

(speak aloud if you wish:) "May all beings be peaceful and happy forever. May those parts of the planet overwhelmed by strife and hatred be surprised by a sudden joy and forgiveness for themselves in for others. May those in distress or pain have their suffering alleviated. May the birds of the air, the beasts of the fields and forests, all living things be blessed. May the trees and plants, all growing things find nourishment and the sunlight and pure air they require. May all waters become pure, and those creatures living in them healed and replenished. May weather everywhere return to gentle weather, and all disturbances cease. May we awaken in peace and happiness May all troubles melt away, and best dreams come true. May we understand deeply how we are of each other. May we become each other's best friend, counselor or partner, brother, or sister, mother or father. May we all, embraced in peace by each other, become one.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: 155 West 4th. (inside joke)
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

"THE END IS NEAR"!!!!Well I got home from the pub last night and found Miz Nancy on my stairs. I took her out for some chow. I keep working on the "Friend-ship" thing. I'm wearing her resistance down to the point of her aggreeing to lay me on the day before the world ends. Ah...make that "The Day That The World Ends. ("The Last Day On Earth")... Anyway,..Im' counting on George Bush to help the process along. Hey!...heres the scoop on Eric and Nik; well,..Eric is like every man youve' ever met and Nicole is every woman that you would like to meet. (Im' kinda in between the two)...anyway,..Eric has arms like tree trunks and his shadow streatches from Hudson Street to the Hudson River. Nicole is like a new doll. You wanna play with her; Dig? ....very lovely: has a model body and wears terrific Barbie clothes. She's very respectable. Real Class. A very refined ballsyness. She passed around some funky original Digger photos, I layed some top shelf hootch on our Man and it was like old home week. Oh...the anti war march and candle light vigil last night???...Ahh...well,..lets just say that we were "Drinking For Peace" and leave it at that.... Shall we???

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Peace

This morning I saw a movie with a happy ending and I remembered the folks at Tolstoy and Morningstar and I smiled. I knew that I was loved and cared for. I was given what the world could not give. I was given the sense of being a human being on this planet. A footing of goodwill, a path, the light to walk on. It is easy for me to see the way, the common good, the view, as Kyle said, “the sunset, the sunrise”.

I know that you care deeply about the turmoil surrounding us but we can sit in this quiet time and see and feel the peace that we have created. Peace

 

Name: Sting
EmailAddress: from the Invisible Sun
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

I'm a walking disaster, I'm a Demolition Man

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Argh this is annoying. I have not changed my name nor am I about to call myself anonymouse I am AND allways will be IMAM. IGNORE THE LAST POSTS

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Mar 2003

Comments

Wasn't Squinky almost a character on the Laverne and Shirley show? I knew a guy back in the daze who took a bath every day but didn't believe in soap, I think that's squinky-clean. Peace

Name: Steve Again
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Hammond: that was one hell of a review mister! Thats why I dont publish...(I couldnt take all of that praise)..but no shit. What a write up!..how about a colage of short pieces for your next one. I can say from experience that twisted tales told from a clear head can get squinky...(Ah...what the hell does Squinky mean???)..I read it in a ZAP Comic I think....keep writting. You gotta come to NYC. You just gotta.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

The last two posts entered under my name were not from me. (This is where I came in folks)...Good Luck. P.S. In order to assure you that this is me now;...tonight at the White Horse we got three photos; one of me and Eric, and two of Nik, Eric and myself. Maybe he will put em' up on the screen. Hey;...Ah...me IMAM?...Ide' be proud to say so if I was. Ahh,... Me Sponge???...I will pretend that I didnt hear that. Sponge aint even Sponge: Dig??? He/She or It is a non-entity. You know whats smaller than an atom???...my respect for Sponge. Hey, tonight I motioned for Eric to sit down and he already was. (The fucker's gotta be at least seven foot tall.)...good people; him and Nik,..yeeeeppp!! From hear on out: Question everything that you read.

Name: terrorist teenage commie martian from Hell
EmailAddress: ha!  that oughta fool 'em
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Maybe the sense of the body of the message will be sufficient. I appreciate to not have to register here, but obviously some pseudo-humans take advantage of our liberty. Ever seen "They Live" where if you have the right spectacles the rightwingers in SUV's can clearly be seen to be spectral skeeletons in suits? The present day to a T. Again, stay strong, eat right, smoke a lot of..wait a minute, stay on message.. just keep your hearts up .. we cannot be defeated because we're TRULY ALIVE .. and fuck all the rest.

Soul brother #2 [because James Brown has the #1 seat] yr anarchist friend -- Blue

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge- STFU

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

that was me. sorry

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Bein' a visitor and such, I realize I'm not supposed to know what's goin' on, but...here i thought Steve was really IMAM, then i thought Sponge was ...oh hell, it doesn't matter what I thought...I'll just get myself in trouble again.

White Horse Tavern!...mmm, remember it well. Is the Kettle of Fish still around? Fanelli's? I know Connelley's is long gone, 23rd & 3rd. Spent waaay too much time there...and the Locale? Haven't been to the City in nearly 20 years...

Name: Anonymite
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi everyone - it is official - I have written to Eric about the identiy thief - and again - no more IMAM in any shape or form will represent the one Anonymite (formerly known as Anonymouse)- This is so boring....... Apologies to all for any futher misrepresentations. Over&Out

Name: Second Sigh
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve- I meant what I said in the sidekick note.

Name: Sigh........
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve - yes

Name: Mc o' what the hell
EmailAddress: on the other side of the pond
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Lets for the Identity coalition and formulate our own code. that will confuse the martians

Name: IMAM lookin at Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

This identity theft is out of control. Steve I am not gonna give up my IMAM monica its the only gift you have given me.

Name: MAGA
EmailAddress: MAGA@GUY.COM
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

GUY SEPULU M AKA OOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Silent  Steve
EmailAddress: Lookinup@thestars
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Is it sponge or have the body snatchers finaly arrived. IMAM are you postin anonymously or is it some thing else ........

Name: Steve's Sidekick
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve - What is to be done about this pest? I have stepped in it I guess and I can't get it off my shoes. And believe it folks your friend IMAM - is now without a name - Eric or no Eric removal - now that Sponge/nana/Suzane has co-opted my Steve given moniker you will never know when the real IMAM is putting in his two cents - Thanks to all of you for your virtual friendship and words of wisdom. I won't go away - but I am no longer IMAM(Suspect). Get it now - who ever you are?

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge will be terminally ignored

Name: IMAM (suspect)
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey NONAME back off I do my own posts dont interfere.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

McMingus (Blue) ya cant beat em so dont mean ya have to join em either. Together we will beat the motherfuckers down. But you already knew that. I wish we had a few more like you on this site. Top of the mornin to ya

Name: NONAME
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Until further notice any and all messages seemingly from IMAM without or without (Suspect) attached are imitations - misleading notions from a sad fellow who has nothing better to do with his time. Saddly NN (for the one and only time)

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Steve I have given up on him/her/them (ban) I cant even bring myself to say the name. Followed your last link but got prety bored after a while.Dont give up you go right ahead and bite, I am backin ya buddy

Name: Mc o' what the hell
EmailAddress: more neptunian than uranus (where is yr anus anyway ?)
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

strange sponge (Dr. or no) why don't you go back to whatever gaseous nebula spawned you ? you certainly don't belong here. & I would like to suggest, in future we repel reptilian invadors such as the aforementioned alien life form, by refusing to recognize their existence. QED, extinction by lack of vampiric suck-off energy.

OK ?

on behalf of the surviving humans,

Blue

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Ahh... nope: (Im' not gonna bite.) I cant say "Nice Try"...cause you dont do "Nice".

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

IMAC I havnt got an elk

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Given up only in the sense of "Don't Sponge On Me" - ever! I am IMAM(and accept no substitues) - I am no other and never will be. Don't bother addressing me again Sponge(Ban) - this is my last reference to you and y our ilk.-(IMAM)Suspect

Name: IMAM(the real)
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

I give up......(IMAM)-in the open

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress: I meant ring...
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

...as in boxing ring

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

I'm on my way to meet Eric at the White Horse Tavern in the village...that famous spot where Dylan Thomas hung out and died...I'll ask him (eric) about putting in a rink...

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

AH fame at last. It looks too me like I have been sincerly flattered [if imitation is still the sincerest form of flatery] for as much as I agree with the last Sponge posting and enjoyed the accusations made and jollify in Steve being called "dickbreath i cannot take the credit for that post. pitty though. you [who ever you are ] have taken the words right out of my mouth. IMAC is it you? betcha it is, you seem the sneeky type who would take a guys identity and stab out behind that mask.

Hey its cool though theres plenty of room for 2 Dr Sponges and i am still the original and best.

welcome Cat D to the site I know Belfast well. Do you ever get over to Liverpool? Apparently its the centre of the universe according to Ginsberg , as well as being the capital of Irland, look f,wrd too hearing from you.

 

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Cat D. Yes, do come by anytime...tell us a little about your self...and let us say mile failte to you...you might want to click onto "terminal velocity" on this site...you'll get a sort of precursor to Sleeping Where I fall, Coyotes book published a couple years back...complete with more photos...

Come on you guys...you're embarressing me now, I tell alot of people about this site and you are interfering with it's integrity. I mean I don't care if you curse and carry on and spit or shit in your postings, truely I don't but my suggestion to you is ...why don't you start your own anarchist web site or ask eric to create a page just for jousting...actually that might be fun...any time any of us feel like fucking with some one...we just get on over there and have at it...Nik

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge(Ban) - I suppose you didn't bother to read the note left by Cat D - who came here with open arms - eyes and spirit - with polite and relevant questions for many of us here to reply to - from our hearts Sponge(Ban) not from some warped sense of radicalism - isn't. that you insist on spaming us with. To each his own - but be at least somewhat truthful - somewhat real. You of all people speaking of "fakers!" You lame fuck - get a grip! IMAM-(Suspect)

PS - Cat D - welcome to our virtual place and the answers to your questions are: "yes and no." Anyone?

Name: el stupido
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Whoops, should be Irish person I guess.

Name: McMingus
EmailAddress: on the other side of the pond
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Catherine -- no freer site on the 'Net. Come back & post with whatever anytime. Coyote's still active. Many others are still alive & kicking. And never mind the loony bollocks from certain misguided right-niks that persist in pestering us -- Diggers are alive and well. Welcome, sister. From a fellow Irishman -- Blue

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Dickbreath Boyd

Who are you - you faker. telling Richard that he missed the nights when YOU pretended to fuck .You was never there or anywhere ." Mr I was a Digger Boyd" bullshit you got no credentials, no bonafides this looks like a set up cover story. Tell the truth Steve you are on a witness protection program and you're creating a past. Who'd you snide on whats your grass stats.

Name: Cat D
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi to all

What a great site

I hope you don’t mind me posting my hello here. My name is Catherine Delahonte and I am 39 single (at last) and from Belfast Northern Ireland. A friend of mine recently let me read his copy of Ringolevio and boy was it unputdownable and I have just put the word Diggers into my search engine and ended up here . This is exciting I hardly know what to say. Is every one still around ,I now Emmett is dead but what about the other characters? Like the Hun and Coyote, natural Suzanne etc .Is this site from the original Diggers or have you moved on and a younger group just evolved? What happened next? Are you still active in SF etc. So many questions I don’t know where to start .Is this a free site and can I keep coming back? And finally are there any more books about your group that I could read and maybe catch up a little. See you all again.

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

State Farm Insurance feels compelled to specify to policy holders it will not cover nuke hits to your SUV, minivan or car is a perilous reminder of our brave new suburban world.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/03/03/Columns/State_Farm_s_no_nukes.shtml

(Dr.) Strange-IMAM(Suspect)

Name: quickmorph
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Mar 2003

Comments

Juice Baby -

I've got about 4 gray hairs, find cukes eminently more satisfying and get all kinds of mileage out of fucking for peace....my singing would definitely bring on war.

But thanks for your most sagacious advice!

Name: Mc somethin (how can I remember)
EmailAddress: I drool because I'm senile & like that, right ?
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Fuck you Juice. Go spread around your social disease someplace else.

Everyone else -- indeed bon temps roulez ! Give it up for the great spirit/mind of New Orleans. And 'Let My People Go' is the tune, if you've got the Neville Brothers "Live on Planet Earth" around the old homestead. Get Up, Stand Up, Don't Give Up the Fight. The truly living will triumph over the orgone-nil living dead that seem to triumph now because [the great secret is] they are gweilo ghosts with no real chi or existence at all. signed : blue like Krishna

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

More homework. http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/people/gandhi/bhana.html

Name: Alexander
EmailAddress: see@my.site
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

It's Alexander from Ukraine.

Your site is great!

I wish to learn about you some more. Let's have a talk. Until good connection!

Take care Alexander http://sucakndfuck.narod.ru

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Newsweek's cover story is on George II's faith. Says he has a 'divine calling'. Says he gathers his cabinet around for daily prayer meetings. Now, I don't mean to denigrate anyone's faith, or the power of prayer, but what are they praying for?

Can you just see the scene in the Offal Office, supplicant doughy men in a circle, fondling tumescences in anticipation of Apocalypse...?

Here's what Twain had to say 100 years ago;

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/warprayer.html

Name: Steve's Fools school
EmailAddress: Dig It 101
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Tonight's home work: http://www.mkgandhi.org/

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: Olema Ranch
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Richard my dear...you missed the nights where we all pretended to fuck while you slept. ...(Pity)...

Name: Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Ohio Girl; A Declared war is a war. Undeclared War is Brutal aggression / Oppression. Sadam pulled it on Kiwait and now it seems that we are no better. Think about it.

Name: Richard Beck Peacock
EmailAddress: RBeckP33@yahoo.com
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

I spent 3 lovely days at the Diggers house. It was my first introduction to a group of people fucking in one room while I pretended to sleep.

Name: Steve Again...
EmailAddress: Tunnel Of Love
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

"Girlie-Kiss??"...Is there any other kind???....Hey Sponge, inasmuch as Im' more of a Woman than you will ever be; You got beat out all the way around. Hows it feel to suck hind tit? This is yer' Ol' Aunt Steve sayin': "You got some soul searching to do mister". (Hint)..(you gotta have one in order to find one)...Hey,..I got plenty of Good Year sole on the bottom of my lucky boot that Im' ready to spare...P.S. Whats with all of the torment???...What Did They Do To You????

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: Ohio, next in line for good weather?
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Its going to be above-freezing every afternoon here, for at least the next several days. Birds were singing all over the place this afternoon, oh, those crazy birds! They know how to transcend the slushy, icy, grime-encrusted landscape of snow and mud we're having here. Like that saying about any day above ground being a good day, well right now, any day above freezing is a good day to me.

When I get home from night shift with my mind not completely in the everyday world yet, and see the news on TV, it just hits me, I can't believe this, they're trying to start a war again. Peace

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: The Zone
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

"WOW MOM"...Sponge; you ol' match-marker you..bringing up my name...(Name Dropper)...frustated are we???...I couldnt' help detecting a note of sarcasm in your' voice. Hmm...oh, I get it; while the cats away the mice will play?...Eric aint around to eradicate the vermin..Hey folks! Beter view higher up!. I lost the stats on the Tibetan March. A wild woman asked me to post this site; (she's a walking Bill-Board. A.N.S.W.E.R. New York: 212-633-6646 Wash. DC: 202-544-338 www.internationalANSWER.org

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Sponge(Ban) - I have removed you from all catagories - you are in a sty all your own - GoodBye means good bye-IMAM(Suspect)

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

My Norwich interview -scroll down page

http://www.ukppg.co.uk/kmdates.html

Name: Dr Sponge
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

hey IMAC dont associate me with juice I like carrots. i was about too exercise my creative rantings inline with todays page but your simplemindedness must be catching ! Infact Go stick some carrots up yer own geriatric ass hole and sing for peace and give your lover Steve a big girlie kiss too.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Excuse me, but juice, go fuck yourself...and I guess I need to plant carrots in my garden for you!GET WELL SOON!

all the rest of you...les bon temps roulez...on this Mardi Gras

Name: IMAM
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Juice/Sponge/nana/Suzanne - Oh my! What a waste of energy Recycled and Good-Bye! IMAM(Suspect)

Name: JUICE
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Hey you old hippie farts how come so many of you are still alive. fuckin grey haird ass wipes .Go stick some carrots up yer geriatric ass holes and sing for peace.

We shall over come

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

Comments

Hi all - And as we seem to be in a lliterate mode - here are Stew Albert's words of today. *And for those who didn't see the ref: in today's paper from Ari the mouthpiece - it was another sad example of administrative spokesmouth ignorance. - H.

Steal This Book

Fug you Ari Fleischer! Trying to sound hip in a square's administration, talking about how evil Saddam worked his way into a "Catch 22," because he's now disarming and he once claimed he was already disarmed. Ari thinks that "Catch 22" means it's cool to bomb Baghdad.

How dare that SOB, stealing Joe Heller's magnificent phrase and title. Fleischer you asshole, it was Heller who taught a generation that it was the imposers of "Catch 22" who were the real thieves the actual murderers not those who were suffocating in its endless web. We were the victims!

Joseph Heller wrote an antiwar novel that was hilarious in its pain and dark wisdom. He wasn't inventing a phrase to justify pulverizing Baghdad because you just feel like it. From his grave, Joe Heller's Coney Island soul screams out "Fleischerdik, you gonif a cholera on your Junta."

-2003 Stew Albert

Name: Poets Against The War
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

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Poets Against the War announces an International Day of Poetry Against the War on Wednesday, March 5th. Poets around the world will schedule readings and/or discussions of poetry and protest for that day. At noon on March 5th on Capitol Hill, three of America’s preeminent living poets (representing an extraordinary cross section of distinguished poets) will present approximately 15,000 anti-war poems to members of Congress. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) will host the event with other members of the Progressive Caucus including Caucus Co-Chair Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA). http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org

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EmailAddress: U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation
Date: 04 Mar 2003

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February 27, 2003

U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation

he following is the text of John Brady Kiesling's letter of resignation to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell. Mr. Kiesling is a career diplomat who has served in United States embassies from Tel Aviv to Casablanca to Yerevan.

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I am writing you to submit my resignation from the Foreign Service of the United States and from my position as Political Counselor in U.S. Embassy Athens, effective March 7. I do so with a heavy heart. The baggage of my upbringing included a felt obligation to give something back to my country. Service as a U.S. diplomat was a dream job. I was paid to understand foreign languages and cultures, to seek out diplomats, politicians, scholars and journalists, and to persuade them that U.S. interests and theirs fundamentally coincided. My faith in my country and its values was the most powerful weapon in my diplomatic arsenal.

It is inevitable that during twenty years with the State Department I would become more sophisticated and cynical about the narrow and selfish bureaucratic motives that sometimes shaped our policies. Human nature is what it is, and I was rewarded and promoted for understanding human nature. But until this Administration it had been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my president I was also upholding the interests of the American people and the world. I believe it no longer.

The policies we are now asked to advance are incompatible not only with American values but also with American interests. Our fervent pursuit of war with Iraq is driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been America¹s most potent weapon of both offense and defense since the days of Woodrow Wilson. We have begun to dismantle the largest and most effective web of international relationships the world has ever known. Our current course will bring instability and danger, not security.

The sacrifice of global interests to domestic politics and to bureaucratic self-interest is nothing new, and it is certainly not a uniquely American problem. Still, we have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of American opinion, since the war in Vietnam. The September 11 tragedy left us stronger than before, rallying around us a vast international coalition to cooperate for the first time in a systematic way against the threat of terrorism. But rather than take credit for those successes and build on them, this Administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally. We spread disproportionate terror and confusion in the public mind, arbitrarily linking the unrelated problems of terrorism and Iraq. The result, and perhaps the motive, is to justify a vast misallocation of shrinking public wealth to the military and to weaken the safeguards that protect American citizens from the heavy hand of government. September 11 did not do as much damage to the fabric of American society as we seem determined to so to ourselves. Is the Russia of the late Romanovs really our model, a selfish, superstitious empire thrashing toward self-destruction in the name of a doomed status quo?

We should ask ourselves why we have failed to persuade more of the world that a war with Iraq is necessary. We have over the past two years done too much to assert to our world partners that narrow and mercenary U.S. interests override the cherished values of our partners. Even where our aims were not in question, our consistency is at issue. The model of Afghanistan is little comfort to allies wondering on what basis we plan to rebuild the Middle East, and in whose image and interests. Have we indeed become blind, as Russia is blind in Chechnya, as Israel is blind in the Occupied Territories, to our own advice, that overwhelming military power is not the answer to terrorism? After the shambles of post-war Iraq joins the shambles in Grozny and Ramallah, it will be a brave foreigner who forms ranks with Micronesia to follow where we lead.

We have a coalition still, a good one. The loyalty of many of our friends is impressive, a tribute to American moral capital built up over a century. But our closest allies are persuaded less that war is justified than that it would be perilous to allow the U.S. to drift into complete solipsism. Loyalty should be reciprocal. Why does our President condone the swaggering and contemptuous approach to our friends and allies this Administration is fostering, including among its most senior officials. Has ³oderint dum metuant² really become our motto?

I urge you to listen to America¹s friends around the world. Even here in Greece, purported hotbed of European anti-Americanism, we have more and closer friends than the American newspaper reader can possibly imagine. Even when they complain about American arrogance, Greeks know that the world is a difficult and dangerous place, and they want a strong international system, with the U.S. and EU in close partnership. When our friends are afraid of us rather than for us, it is time to worry. And now they are afraid. Who will tell them convincingly that the United States is as it was, a beacon of liberty, security, and justice for the planet?

Mr. Secretary, I have enormous respect for your character and ability. You have preserved more international credibility for us than our policy deserves, and salvaged something positive from the excesses of an ideological and self-serving Administration. But your loyalty to the President goes too far. We are straining beyond its limits an international system we built with such toil and treasure, a web of laws, treaties, organizations, and shared values that sets limits on our foes far more effectively than it ever constrained America¹s ability to defend its interests.

I am resigning because I have tried and failed to reconcile my conscience with my ability to represent the current U.S. Administration. I have confidence that our democratic process is ultimately self-correcting, and hope that in a small way I can contribute from outside to shaping policies that better serve the security and prosperity of the American people and the world we share. Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy

Name: NY Friend
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

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Students Unite For Peace http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=662

The Bush Administration’s war on Iraq is a venture for control of the region and its oil supplies, not national security, democracy, or human rights. Our campuses provide implicit support for this through military research, recruiting, and ROTC programs. As students who value freedom, democracy, and our education we say: THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE! The best way to improve our national security is to halt drives for illegal and immoral wars and redirect public funds from the military and arms trade to education and social services at home and humanitarian aid abroad. Take a stand with students across the nation on March 5th to build toward this collective vision.

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

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Good stuff, Mark

'Poetry is the street talk of angels and devils' Ferlinghetti

Name: Rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Mar 2003

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Eileen, Welcome to the islands!! Best wishes for a joyous adventure... i sent my phone number to your e mail address. you are welcome here at our Maui vortex. with aloha.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Missed Eric: out getting Tattooed. Will pass Plow share info via Dan Kinch. Got Eric some Liver Tonic. No. 929 out of 1000 jug run of the Grandest Irish Whiskey on the Planet. Will launder Tee Shirt, Monk Socks and Levis in A.M. to commemerate his visit. Welcome To New York City,..DUCK!!!

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Missed Eric: out getting Tattooed. Will pass Plow share info via Dan Kinch. Got Eric some Liver Tonic. No. 929 out of 1000 jug run of the Grandest Irish Whiskey on the Planet. Will launder Tee Shirt, Monk Socks and Levis in A.M. to commemerate his visit. Welcome To New York City,..DUCK!!!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress: Sorry, it should look like this.
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Quarrel

 

Four dark mornings alone dining on flocked hearts.

Tired fingers came quietly in whispers

Touching nothing but shadows.

Facing away.

 

Hurt by long days driven hard in darkness,

Tapping no feet

Chewing no nails.

Facing away.

 

Deep in the light of death

Joists float out and hover like evening helicopters

From under the floor of those who will be missing.

Facing away.

 

Name: Mark Hebard
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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I was thinking about the carnage and loss after looking at the photos in the new issue of Rolling Stone.

 

Quarrel

Four dark mornings alone dining on flocked hearts Tired fingers came quietly in whispers Touching nothing but shadows Facing away

Hurt by long days driven hard in darkness Tapping no feet Chewing no nails Facing away.

Deep in the light of death Joists float out and hover like evening helicopters From under the floor of those who will be missing. Facing away.

Name: Vern L. Nelson
EmailAddress: nelscomm@aol.com
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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A big fan from many years ago, especially the late Lou!

Name: Charlie O'Mingus
EmailAddress: close to the heart of Cold Mountain
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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With new moon in Pisces today (a perfect placement) I planted spinach, lettuces (Romaine & several others), tatsoi, radicchio. & started heather seed to grace my mountain hillside. Sun out, scattered clouds, high in the 50's. Spring's starting here in WNC. At last. Ohio Girl, hope you're next. Oh & thanks Eileen for the astro hook-up. Real good info.-- Your partner in crime, the Blue Man

Name: FYI - diggers
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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On April 5th QUICKSILVER GOLD will be performing their debut concert at The Marin Center, located about 30 minutes north of the Golden Gate Bridge. This all star band will be paying tribute to the legendary 60's band Quicksilver Messenger Service, performing such songs at "Who Do You Love", "Pride of Man", „What About Me", "Dino's Song", "Fresh Air", "Mona", and more. This special show also features Jefferson Starship (with Jefferson Airplane founders Marty Balin & Paul Kantner and special guests) and local favorites Vinyl. Wavy Gravy will MC. A portion of the proceeds will be donated to the McGinnis Skate Park in San Rafael.

For ticket information, see the concert poster at:

http://www.vinylgroove.com/images/SKATEPeacePoster150dpi.jpg

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Hey Nic,

Yeah, I have been looking into it. Big step though. There is lots of stuff on the web for Americans who are relocating. Property is still affordable away from the coast. I need to look at health care and some of those really practical items. My first look at some Americans posted experiences living in France back up what you say about hostility. I have never been to France though my relatives have all gone several times. I like the varied geography and lots of countryside, cities and coastline. Kind of like California in a way. I like choices.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Mark, I have several friends from here and there who have moved to France...I lived there for a while in the late 70's...in Courville ce eur just out side of Chartres...I loved it...and I never experienced any of the hostility people speak of...I've always wanted to go back...The first day I arrived there had been a huge storm and caused alot of tree damage...every single person everywhere seemed to participate in the clean up...and many of them fashioned rough brooms out of smaller fallen branches and twine and even swept the forest floor of debris that had blown into the woods...and no one would consider going to the market and not bring there own cloth bags to bring home groceries and the grocer used yesterdays paper to wrap your produce...no plastic bags or paper...h-m-m-m...the more I think about it...

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Eileen,

Funny how things go. My wife retires in August and we are thinking of heading out and the Big Island has been a topic for a week or so. Having lived there in the past I worry about Island fever and my road warrior addicton. I for one would go for the sunshine even though Oregon has lots to offer. The other place of heated discussion is Southern France. I have been doing some research and it is doable. My family all say they would pack up and leave tomorrow. The image of me tooling around the Rivera sun in my black 57 Tbird, levi's and cowboy boots and maybe a digger tshirt and some Coltrane in the CD has something for me. I could dig it.

Gouge,

Nicely written piece. Very similar surroundings here in Steinbeck territory, Salinas, Watsonville, Soledad, etc.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Gouge, thank you so much for sharing Sunday with us...and please write more...that was one of the most powerful anti war pieces I've read and the question you pose brought it right bright and clear into focus what's at stake here.

Eileen, the link you gave us regarding the moon affected me in a real physical way when I read it...like an epiphany...I'm telling you that my vibrations right this minute are 100 fold to what they were yesterday...I feel real heat coming from my solar plexus...and radiating down my arms...and I don't believe it's a heart attack...actually it is...but in the best way possible...we can collectively create a force field and send it outword and let it catch others in it's wake...

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Thanks. And,Eileen,I wish the best for you.For us all. bob

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Gouge~You bring tears to my eyes in memory of my love of New Mexico. I have walked that street as well. A place that is my spirit home but will never let me stay. I move on to what I deeply hope will let me be a peace both on the land and amoung the people. Will it greet me with aloha and hold fast? I am afraid but the dreams remain.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Gouge - Indeed - thanks and bravo! for that well composed slice of life - acting in the moment - and so to the moment in your parting words. What a great thing to say to your son.

Name: Michael
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Hey Gouge - That was nice.

Name: Michael
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Eileen - Sorry you won't be close by - but yes, our state runs well ahead of the nation in terms of unemployment along with a financially faltering educational system - just for starters. I guess I was making the assumption that you already knew this *(ideally transient) data. Oregon is however a great place to live in many other repects - yet to enjoy this with an ease of life syle you really need to have at least one regular income from a non-state supported or corp. source. Crafts or at home small business for instance still travel well here in the NW.

Last time I was in the Islands was in 1960 so I can't be of any help! The Rena and r n a family will be overjoyed I am sure. Maybe we should all move to the islands to survive (and survive we would!) without the cameras and 10 Billion viewers looking for "reality."

Best of the day to everyone at hand - H

Name: Gouge
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Sunday, just before dawn, there came a brief, hard desert rain. I wheeled my old bicycle out into the morning puddles and headed downtown, into the Barrio. Not sure why, but I like it down here. Narrow streets that are alive. Old adobe houses painted bright pink and yellow, purple, orange and lime green. Chickens in a yard. A bright metallic blue '63 Impala low rider with the doors open, the player blasting a Ranchero accordion out onto the street. Someone is cooking frijoles, someone else chicken. A couple of vatos in baggy Dickies pass a joint as they change a flat on an Accord. I glide through the smoke and they shoot me the requisite hard looks. An old black dog in a narrow spot of sun barely raises his head as I pass, then lets it drop. I'm not worth barking at. There's a young woman on the corner with Medusa hair, thick and heavy and flying away from her head in all directions. A fire of black snakes. She smiles. I ache. Santana blares from a window. A door slams a dog barks, I hear a woman singing. A guy patches his roof. Another guy sits in the yard with a bottle. A fading mural of skeletons sleeping in the ground as Conquistadores march overhead. A grizzled, grey guy about my age, in a brown beret and a beat up leather jacket swings up into an ancient pick-up, La Raza sticker in the window. In the evening, my son drops by with his lady. I've made a pot of chili, we sit and talk. Looking into their bright eyes I wonder if theirs is the last generation to reach adulthood. I can't think of that. My son hugs me tight as they leave and I whisper 'just live. Live it all', then listen to his little pick-up growl out into the night.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Steve, Eric called me this morning, he's in New Jersey...he said he was going to go to west 4th and see you...he's calling me back on Wednesday, that's the first chance he said he'd have to see me since I work during the day...I can't come by today but I'll try tomorrow...Nik

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Steve - if the Plowshare folks are still on hand - please transmit this poem to them - honoring their mentor and co-founder - thanks. http://www.counterpunch.org/guthrie1209.html

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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It's two degrees here. It's supposed to warm up though, this week. Maybe, just maybe this will be the last really cold morning of the year. I can dream anyways... Eileen, I think moving is horrid, so I'm picturing you all moved in already, somewhere really just right. Steve, keep on keepin' on, and always take things to a higher level of entanglement. Peace.

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EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Miss-placed your' P.O.Box Number. It would be worth your while to post it again and check it by mid week. (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)..." consider it "A Friend standing up and yelling: "Ya!!...She's Right!!!"...Dig? (the wind just changed)..(but you knew that).. Focus On Peace

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: aloha
Date: 03 Mar 2003

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Hi Friends~ Latest bulletin..after seeing in Sundays paper Oregon has the.."highest unemployment rates in the nation." have decided to move to the Big Island..Hawaii. Yes the whole US is under seige but Oregon started off in a funky economy and I know the poor head set to go with. I could pull it off but I think the situation for Miranda would just paint her into a corner. We have 3 wks to be out of here and I've made such an abrupt change of plans I've got to unpack and start all over. Don't expect to hear from me until I can come up for air.

Name: Concerned Citizen
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Attention New Yorkers: Candlelight March For Peace. Wed., March 5, at 5:30 PM. Assemble at Hillary Clinton's Office, 780 Third Ave. (47th & 48th) Bring: Candles, Signs and Drums. Join us for a legal candlelight march on the sidewalks of our city. This is National Action Baby. Clinton and Schumer voted "YES" on the resolution to send our country into war! (gettin' even for that cigar caper; is she Bill???) SENATORS SAY YES BUT CITIZENS SAY NO!!! We begin outside Clinton's, walk downtown past Schumer's office (3rd & 46th), and walk peacefully from there to *Washington Square Park,(wink, wink, nudge, nudge) for a candlelight vigil. *Screw the Park Toilets; use Silent Steve's. (but you knew that)

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: west 4th
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Hey Joe; ya missed it. Some of the original Plow-shares people were here tonight. Real Old heavy-weights. I tried to communicate the best that I could. Great Crew. Damn shame that they were blacked-out by the media for so many years. Thats what burns my ass. Same as the up-wind crowd,..they got totally buried. The media doesnt have to re-write history; they just cut to the chase by turning a blind eye. Hmmm....Whats another word for editor??? Later Joe.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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I was referring to the web site posting, I didnt do it....oh no! clones on the site....

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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That was'nt me that posted the thing below.....sure steve you can borrow my voice....its quite loud actually

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: West 4th
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Hey Joe: Home-Wreckers Unlimited just walked in. These gals are carring signs that read: "WE CUM IN PEACE"...(May I borrow your' voice???) Grab a cab on over to the Kairos Cafe that they are setting up in the Sanctuary,..Music, Coffee, Peaceniks,..a few under cover cops,..you know...same ol' same ol'...

 

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: staff@wsumc.org
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Slum Alley Saint Dept. : Ive' decided to continue my out reach ministry..(ya, Ive' been into that also, there are six of us on the committy...)..(but no Bible thumpin')..I just keep the spirits up and give the home town bums the ol' Miami Hand Shake. I give a weekly allowance to so many Old Lost Children that I have 75 year olds callin' me DAD. Shit, re-read Nik's article that was posted... you can make a difference. A good place to start is right out side of your door. Think about it.

Name: Silent Steve
EmailAddress: staff@wsumc.org
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Slum Alley Saint Dept. : Ive' decided to continue my out reach ministry..(ya, Ive' been into that also, there are six of us on the committy...)..(but no Bible thumpin')..I just keep the spirits up and give the home town bums the ol' Miami Hand Shake. I give a weekly allowance to so many Old Lost Children that I have 75 year olds callin' me DAD. Shit, re-read Nik's article that was posted... you can make a difference. A good place to start is right out side of your door. Think about it.

Name: Steve Cameron Swayzey
EmailAddress: Our Man In New York
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Nows Flash:...Well, at this point, I wouldnt exactly be telegraphing any punches to the 6th Precinct boys; as two individual channel seven news men just filmed me holding up a sign that says "Kiss My Ass George" They also had the class to ask me to turn around in order to film the "DIGGERS" "NORTH CALIF" logo on the back of my Tee Shirt. The Parade is an all "Dressed In Black" affair, so I plan on trying to scrape up something. Could be an eventfull day...well, the Rev. broke the news. If we do sell out, a Theatre may do the trick, as we could continue with the "Arts Commitment" as well as the social change thing. Keep ya posted.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress: joe@onachain.com
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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www.rally-wear.com great t shirt for the naked people in the No War Image posted at http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=5732_What_the_Hell_is_Wrong_with_These_People

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Mar 2003

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Nothing wrong with getting tangled up in the one, and good music too. And Clawdia has got to be the cat's miaow. Gee it's icy and slippery and cold here in Ohio. Can spring be far behind? Peace, and Smooth Sailing!

Name: just a kid
EmailAddress: 1970
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Your' ship will come in. (winds gonna change)...It's just gotta.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Joe you're a pretty funny guy! Thanks for the laughs. "...a plant in the crowd to yell "he's right!" " I could use a friend like that myself!

Name: Saint Steven (with a "V")
EmailAddress: The Chaple
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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On our tail Hell!!..It just bite me on the ass!!! Wow,..I guess so Eileen,...Hmm..."religious fanaticism"??...(chaining one's self to a Wrought Iron Church Gate)...Ah...ya, And Then Some!! Hmmm... "agrandizement purely for our own ego inflation".. I,.ah..I stand guilty as charged. Hell, I got a real bad feeling about this whole ball-O'-wax. On a more up-beat note, the buzz is already on, and as such, Ive' already recieved several "Room-Mate" offers here from the locals. (Thats actually heart-warming)..Thats how I can tell that Ive' still got one,..(It warms up now and then)..Well, no sign of Buckley,..his "Stuff" is still stashed in the office. I walked Miz Nancy all over the Village today in an attempt to save about 45 cents on some weird supplements that she wanted. She wants to go all out (well almost all-out) and snag a little hole in the wall here on the Island with me. That would really add a sub-plot to this tangled up Life story. Oh well...blame it on the moon.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Do you think we could force Mexico to take Texas back?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: fortune teller
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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UUm there's a New Moon on our tails and it's a strong one. Might want to take a look.

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/calendar.shtml

 

Name: Mr. Right
EmailAddress: The Alamo
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Thanks Joe,..I dont really know the ropes;..but a "No Confidence" vote seems in order. Viva Zappata!!! Unless its a real bag job; the C.S. could give My Lady a shot at it...Wow,..talk about one little package of Dynamite! I told her if she does come back and there is an "Ethics" issue as far as her laying the staff,..hell, I would give up my quarters, my job, and my membership. Christ, I told her that Ide' even turn Catholic for her. (and thats sayin' something!..)..Yep; she's the one. (but a Libra was suppose to turn my head around???)...Oh, she has Libra moon,..or rising...cant remember...thanks again Joe.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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I like that line in the sand thing.....it always captures the imagination....the flock needs a shephard and you may just be it....im always in the shower when destiny calls.....NYU ate the Village and Columbia ate Morningside Heights....I have a lot of free time on my hands just now...let me know if you need a plant in the crowd to yell "he's right!" at appropriate moments during meetings.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: InWhySee
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Hey Ohio Girl,..Im' working as a host on Sat. Nights now, as a favor and I just hit it off with the wildest group of Musicians ever. I checked the Calander and thier name is "So Inclined" They form part of a 10 concert show here at the Peace Church. Its part of the MicroFest 2003 American Festival Of Microtonal Music. The dates run untill May. Check it Out New Yorkers!! www.echonyc.com/~jhhl/AFMM/ (see why I dont go out to the movies???)...Thanks for lending an ear and showing an interest. Thats what pisses me off about this place going under, we support the arts (and artists) Big Time.

Name: Steve again...
EmailAddress: S.A./U.A.T.A.M.F.
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Ah...make that "ALTAR"..(up against the Altar)...I can never get that right...

Name: Steve again...
EmailAddress: S.A./U.A.T.A.M.F.
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Ah...make that "ALTAR"..(up against the Altar)...I can never get that right...

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Sgt. At Arms / Up Against The Alter Mother Fucker
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Some shit about movin' to a small auditorium...fuck that...sure; a store front...Hey, that would go with the store front preacher that they sent to deep six us. Hmm...Tar,..Feathers??...a rail??...Im' talkin' some Arkansas Ol' Time Religion here,..they can carry me out, after they get a court order and a hack saw. I may have to pass on the road trip. This may get ugly,..but theirs no such thing as bad publisity,..right?...Stay Tuned. At the next (Emergency) Trustee meeting, I will draw a line in the sand. Remember the Alamo. (the new Rev. is from TEXAS...would'nt ya' know it!!!!)

Name: Steve Again...
EmailAddress: Dhuuu.../
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Ah...make that "ALTAR"...(up against the altar...get it?)...

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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That's a one-in-a-million lady you've got there, from this and all you've said before. I think your church has too much good energy not to survive in some form........

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: staff@wsumc.org
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Thanks O.G. Hey, here's the scoop; the place is fallin' down around our ears. Its a law suit waiting to happen. We are a fuckin' pain-in-the-ass to the Northern Methodists and havent paid a dime of apportionments for years. The core group of WSUMC's hippies were so inspired by a past Rev. (now in Frisco Cal.) that they all did the seminary gig, got white collars and split with their own flocks. As a Trustee; I was told of the closing some months back (as a worst case senario),..but now it is the senario. Im' in the process of forming a group (inspired by the "Travis" vibe) called "Up Against The Alter Mother Fucker" which will contain the hand full of militant activists that are still hanging on here. (ya' get a free WSUMC Tattoo upon joining)...anyway, I put the alert out to my lady-love who's been down this road before and she says that she will drop everything and come back the Parish House in a heart-beat. (If the DC says yes). Here's an excertp of an article describing how she saved the Grand Avenue Church in Kansas City: "The Reverend Jaquelyn Moore succeeded Whitney at the Grand Avenue pulpit in the late 1980's. Grand Ave's first female senior pastor had lived a colorful life. She's had a child at age 19 and was divorced at 25. She'd chained herself to a military installation during the Vietnam War and gone to jail for it."..."Moore took over what she thought was a failing church"..."Moore split her time with another Methodist Church, guiding both, she imagined, toward their ends. ..."The church was a decaying downtown church", Moore says. "You ride those out until enough people die that they close"....(it goes on to say how she basically rallied an army of homeless folks who she had filled the place with to make a stand and fended off the nearby Fedral Reserve Bank who saw dollar signs in the realestate)..."The people who were the church didn't want it sold," she says. "They were adamant about staying where they were." ..."Moore left in 2000 to go to New York City, where she served in a similar ministry just off Washington Square Park in Greenwich Village. With Moore went the energy that had inspired so many of her members. "The spark of the church just kind of disappeared. It didn't take long for that to happen". Also with Moore went the church's reluctance to deal with the Federal Reserve Bank". Well, O.H. ..that's my girl!! (Tell me we aint a match made in heaven)...Got to go now..P.S. Hey everybody: "Up Against The Alter Mother Fucker"!!!!

Name: Ohio girl
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Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Steve, Nice banner! Nice Clawdia too. Is this the church in danger of being shut down? Shutting it down would be like adding to the negative vibes in the "Hippie Shit" article. Or are they moving to a new building and can the good vibes be moved too? Peace.

Name: Steve Again
EmailAddress: whooohaaa!!!
Date: 01 Mar 2003

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Hey, check out the WSUMC web site at www.wsumc.org They just posted a picture of the Banner that I designed and helped throw together, back when I had a voice, (Its All Fabric)...if you look hard enough through the car windshield) you can make out "Clawdia" the church cat with a haylow above her head.

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