The Digger Archives Guestbook 2003

These are the Guestbook Entries from 2003. Please visit the current Guestbook if you would like to leave your own comments. We also have a Discussion Forum where there are threaded topics.

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NOTE: this file contains the entries from November, 2003. The regular Guestbook contains entries later in 2003.

Name: diane
EmailAddress: dianeseattle@hotmail.com
Date: 30 Nov 2003

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I lived at Morningstar around 1971..my boyfriend at the time visited Morningstar with a woman he had met at the side of the road in Sausalito while hitch-hiking back home to me..Her name was Martha and her little girl was Casandra.....he then came back to get me(with her)oh the lovely 60s and 70s!and we all drove back to live at Morningstar--one big happy family. I remember Rena and Lou, and the Baltimore 4 as we called a group of 4 young guys living there...I remember Bob and Shep I think he was called..they lived in a school bus. Also, Dan Doe who lived in the teepee. Alan and I built a tree house between 4 Redwoods, with clear vinyl walls and ceiling. The northern CAl. rainy season was not great with our slightly sloped roof, but not-to-worry..we remedied the rain collection by cutting a hole in the floor and letting the rain water just run through. We spent time at Wheelers Ranch occasionally...with another resident of morning star named Maverick...he was a "cowboy" of sorts...very much of a character. We found out the car he was driving us around in was stolen. I am sad we do not have any pictures of Morningstar...I would love to see any photos if anyone has some to share. It was a very interesting time in life, and alot has changed, but the memories of the late 60s and 70s are amazing treasures. My friends now cannot believe I used to live such a lifestyle!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Nov 2003

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Travis,

They are essentially the same vehicle. They are also inherently unsafe. If you are looking at new vehicles or newer, check the Mazda Tribute/Ford Escape.

Name: R
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Nov 2003

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before i bought my last car i purchased a one month subscription to Conusmer Reports online. i think it's consumerreports.org. for $3.95 I was able to get the inside scoop on which car was the safest. Besure to notify consumer reports that you are canceling your subscription or they will bill you every monty. it was the best $4 spent while car searching. my daughter wanted a toyota truck which had a miserable safty rating. she got a safer car.

good luck

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Nov 2003

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Travis:

I know they are very similiar. Try going to eBayMotors and search for these models being offered. Compare the specs and this will answer a lot of questions. There is usually extensive detail/specs in these listings, and that might help.

Good luck

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: dogpatch/Oakland
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Does anybody out there know the differences between a Suzuki Samurai and a Chev. Geo Tracker (sport, manual, 4wheel drive.) Are these two effectively the same vehicles? Who makes the engines (4 or 6 cyl?)This is an urgent plea for any information concerning these vehicles--please respond soonest, as in now, if possible. Mountain time 9:19 pm......................Travis

Name: CounterPunched (Again)
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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CounterPunched Weekend

"IRREVERSING LOGIC"

http://www.counterpunch.org/poems11292003.html

Another Op-oetic venture by Stew & Hammond

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Doc - I heard back from Allen - who does remember Tobacco - with the following note - to all that he will soon be writing about his adventure into Liver Replacement land - sorry he couldn't be more help and good luch finding your friend.

From Allen:

Hammond

Soon I'll be able to write a letter about the adventure . But to answer inquiry - I knew eobacco but he didn't write for the Oracle. He was a Digger who got crash pads together for Summer of Love.

Name: Rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Aloha. No, Doc, I don't remember... there were thousands of wonderful souls that passed through Morningstar. However, David at Wheeler's may remember. He's still there, and was there for the whole time. his e address is <hatch_david@yahoo.com> andhe is the Wheeler Ranch historian. He used to known as "David Abraham" because he is so tall.

Eileen, my computer dying was a great liberation. I was surprised what a hold it had on me. I am now on a new iMac and i love it. I got the low end model, claimed a student discount (it's for my daughter?) Anyway, I enjoyed talking with you on the phone earlier this week after 33 years!!! Eileen, looking forward to your journey to our tropics.

by the way, the name "rena morningstar" is fine, but i never married Lou so the Gottlieb is not part of my handle. Lou was certainly my soul mate, but I refused his offer of marriage. Turns out we never could have anyway because by deeding Morningstar to God his divorce from his original wife was stymied because there could be no division of property. for the record, I'm friendly with his first wife who lives in Berkeley and is a very cool woman. She (Lee) recently went on a cruise with Howard Zinn. The cruise was sponsored by (I think) The Progressive or some simular alternative press. Howard Zinn was the main attraction. I would have loved to have gone as I'm a big Zinn fan. I read his books and even listen to his cd's. He is fascinating and tells it like it is (or was).

Love to all. the ocean is calling. ...

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Hank sergon is an inmortal police officer in Houston, Texas And has an interesting theology of the word like

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Hi Doc - how marvelous of you to drop back in - I have no idea about your friend "Tobacco" but as you mentioned that he might have written for the Oracle - I have asked Allen Cohen (in recovery from a recent Liver transplant) - It might be awhile before I hear back - but when I do I will let ya know if he remembers your friend or you from Gene's book of photos - which I rather think Allen has at hand....

Eileen - I (we) am (are) so proud of you! As claude says - maybe there is hope for (even) me!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Doc~You're in the right place. Stick around. While we may not be here much until we recover from Thanksgiving..cruise thru the archives to see who and what's up here. I was on the street and at Olema. But there's Rena Morningstar/Gotleb. Perhaps she may remeber you..but I think her computer is down until the beginning of the wk.

Name: Doc Ray
EmailAddress: watergoddoc@hotmail.com
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Howdy. I was one of the young runaways in the Haight in 67. I came up there with a hippy named Tobacco from Strawberry Fields Commune in Malibu Canyon. He had something to do with the Oricle, I writer I believe. Anyone know what happened to him? I also stayed at Morningstar for a time and at Wheelers. There is a pic of me in the book 'The Summer of Love' by Gene Anthony. Page 63 I'm the one in the leather jacket. Curious if anyone recognizes me. Would like to connect with folks who were there to share foggy memeories. Peace Doc

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Nov 2003

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Hi Claude~It's just as well we missed. Too much going on here. But do hope we get another chance this yr. I stopped smoking partly cause my daughters ganged up on me about it. Smoking's such a weird thing and takes some supper overmind we possess to give it controll. I realized I was mistaking hungry signal for smoking signal..so am eating again and giving myself permission to eat whatever and whenever I want until I level out. I feel so proud of myself its my way of rewarding myself! But some days my lungs ache so. Lung cancer is such a stupid way to die and emphysema you get to drown above water and heart attacks are equally as stupid. Not thinking we can die should have gone out by our 20's. Odd marijuana is made illegal when tobacco isn't and is a zillion times more addictive and distructive. Not that we need all these damn laws and taxes for every move we make. Speaking of that, Nov. Forbs zine has a whole write up are marijuana in Canada that really rubbed my fur the wrong way..pretty much selling the business! That's way too weird when it finally gets acknowledged by the straight money market!! I got to say the market has made a whole new leap this year that I really don't like in the least. Was a good time for me to step out of it. Never dreamed it would take the turn it has and still remain semi illegal. The gov't is so wacked. Saw pictures of Bush in (Irack sorry I still can't spell it) and I admit it, for 1/2 a minute it really pulled at my hearststrings. Aww. But this guy did not earn his place to wear a uniform of any kind and is just a corny schmuck there for a photo op and using the guys there for a backdrop. Hello..what took him so long to show up? He's aways missing the boat. That's what I have to say about that. Nice try winnie. Great visit with my little family..but missed you guys. Hope you had a good on.

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Nov 2003

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Yes, Eric, that was a great evening, thank you. I expect to be back in the summer, for another reunion, not digger related, and I'd like to get together again. I don't think we were anywhere near finished mining the topic.

Mission Bar & Grill, east side of Mission, two doors down from 21st. Black and white tile entry; small, but tall, inside, giving an unexpected spaciousness. Severely elegant simplicity, not expensive. Because I talked so much, I only had the lentil minnestrone special, which was perfect, lentils accorded the respect they deserve. Owner Nidal generously allowed us to hog the best table all night, right on the sidewalk window. Martin Mc was there also, and Joe, whose name I forgot. Best of all, a block and a half to Clane's pad. Thanks again, Eric.

When I go to San Francisco, I wonder a lot if I could live there again, or rather, live without New Mexico. How would I like to be there? I'd like to at least try it. How would I make it there? Well, that's the question, isn't it?

I guess what I need to do is write the outrageous novel that slaughters every New Mexico sacred cow (they litter the cultural landscape), lays bare all myths and foibles, makes me a pot of money and gets me thrown out out the state, whereupon, I have to return to San Francisco, a New Mexican exile, in genteel retirement. Anybody know an agent...

(Eileeen, there was no way, but I thought of it...) and you go, girl, on the not smoking. You give me hope I can do it.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Nov 2003

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from cooks.com

Good start but kind of boring. What's wrong with these people? Gumbo with no okra?? Puleese.

MAW-MAW'S TURKEY AND SAUSAGE GUMBO

3 c. cooked turkey 1 pkg. smoked sausage 1/2 c. green onions, sliced 1 sm. onion, chopped Cayenne pepper (opt.) Paprika Parsley Flour & oil Accent Fillet gumbo Make a roux with flour and oil. Salt and pepper the turkey. Then saute in the roux until it gets brown. Transfer the meat into a gumbo pot. Saute the onions and green onions in the leftover roux and then add to the meat. Add enough water to 3" to 6" above the meat. Season with Accent and pepper to taste. Simmer 3 to 4 hours at a slow boil until broth is about 2" above meat, stirring every 20 minutes.

Add a generous amount of paprika to provide red coloring to gumbo. Slice sausage into pieces and fry for 4 or 5 minutes. Add sausage to gumbo and let it return to a boil. Reduce heat and sprinkle in 1/2 to 1 ounce of fillet gumbo. Let gumbo simmer (not boil) for 10 to 20 minutes to thicken. Gumbo should be served over rice.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Nov 2003

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UUh I'm so stuffed I can't sit down. 2 days of eating..ok gourging. Got to see if there's a turkey gumbo receipe to finish this sucker off. Onward turkey...

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Nov 2003

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Continuing Stories - Get the full monty on GW's plans for the Draft.

http://www.bushdraft.com/index.html

Name: patman
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Nov 2003

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Whew, traffic from n.georgia to western north carolina was horrendous.Glad to be home. Hope everyone has a thankful thanksgiving. Peace, Patrick

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Nov 2003

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Eric - good move mate. Your Memcon will be a treat.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Spent last evening with Claude at the new Mission Bar & Grill. Very enlightening encounter. Claude is a true Dharma Bum, even to the extent of his zazen practice. He was tolerant of my incessant questions and the information he imparted was invaluable. Got to write up a Memcon now.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Mark, the Dixie Chicks and Texas were synonomous with G.W. and Carlos is synonomous with those %$#@*%># assholes. I think the Chicks hit closer to home but Carlos has always been a Homie and Homie don't play that game.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress: Windows
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Ouch! and touche' I feel exposed, I am hiding in plain sight (my words and a few less) If I could I would, follow through, no pain no gain, subjectivity minus objectivity = ?, issues, answers, questions, the blind leading the blind. A life lifed lived with out inquiring is a life not lived. The implications? Many and varied, Expectations?, High, Whose?, mine, Issues? None really, Windows to the soul? One broken, Would love to look at it, shouldn't block, lazy and unfocused? Could be, Muddling through? Definately,

I yam what I yam and the moving finger writes and having writ moves on and all thy piety and all thy wit shall not succeed in canceling half a line.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Jag,

Just got off the phone with my brother in Bangkok. I am waiting for his daughter, my niece, to arrive from UC Santa Barbara for the weekend. I know the traffic will be bad on 101. He went to a Santana concert in Bangkok where Carlos apparently interrupted the show with a political rant explaining that he wasn't part of the Bush amerika and spent time on the state of things. Of course, my brother and his wife stood up and cheered. Turns out that the section of the concert where they were seated was populated by employees of Haliburton, Chevron, and Unocal. Oh well, no Christmas Card from those folks. Funny how we hear about the Dixie Chicks and not Santana in the news.

Name: your words and a few more 
EmailAddress: this way and that
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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I spy, seeing double. Double what? Double trouble. Someone? Expectations? Whose? What's the issue? A real headache. Windows of the soul. Just can't look at it. Gotta block/distractions. No insurances. Lazy and refusing to focus? Who says? Muddling through? The implications?

Name: Jag
EmailAddress: The ayes have it
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Just got in from Seattle and the I-5 corridor on the day before Thanksgiving is not a pretty thing. Five North bound accidents three South bound made for a long and arduous drive,(I'm a passenger for now) and many people didn't make it home for the holidays, makes you realize what a tenuous hold we have on life and how quick it can end.

Happy Turkey Day to all, Eileen, McMing, Ohio Girl, Nichole, Hammond, Mark, Patman, Claude, Missing in action Steve, Joe and any and all who visit here and I am thankful for all who have expressed their thoughts and cares for my predicament.

Nichole, I am thinking more like Karmic retribution or the Seven Deadly Sins or a ripple in the fabric of my existence etc., I am sure I have some overdue Karma. revenge has never been a priority and I think it only leads to a vicious cycle of escalation.

Name: McMing
EmailAddress: next year it's pizza. period
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Eileen .. try this .. one to many shallow bowls of any commonplace vinegar left standing around your house, open to the air, for a day or two .. in general, vinegar absorbs smoke odors .. you can clear the smoky air from a grease fire or suchlike by waving around a damp towel w/ vinegar in it .. might work for old tobacco smoke .. if no good, blame it on Digger engineering !

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Thanks guys. Air is a good thing! Just had to finish freeking out. It was too hard stopping to turn back, but I'm paying..but still not as bad as what I felt when I was smoking. You know when one gets too far from the best possible health, it is all too easy to forget what that feels like. Augh. Now my house has that nasy smokers smell. Any suggestions? I don't have curtains and will clean the windows. But what about the interior in general?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Eileen,

I think you have the stuff to get by the tabacco monkey this time. It is worth the ill effects if you just keep going. Waking up on a crisp cool morning with clear breathing is it's reward. You can do it this time.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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EILEEN - Yippie! - 'Keep On Not Smok'in!' - (tobacco)

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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that would be MArk..no glassws on.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Hammond~I think it's almost a week of being clean!!! I feel like I've come out of the black bog!..but I sure have a headache at the moment. Poison moving around. Guess I didn't get to the vit C and water soon enough today. Miranda is moving back in. Couldn't cut it on her own, but gave us both (OK me for sure) a badly needed break. Both of us also got some introspection that I think moving back in together will be somewhat different.

Mack~Yes, better everyday. Makes dealing with the world a great deal less traumatic when my life doesn't feel traumatic too.

Nicole~She got tired of waiting and got his phone # from me. Don't know if she's talked to him yet or not. I will give her your greetings.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Everyone have a great turkey whatever day!

Eileen - you didn't mention the status of you know what. What's what?

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Yes Hammond, the presidential peice.

Jag, I'm just thinking of some source of the "dis-ease" lines like...keeping your eye on the prize...eye for an eye(got any revenge thing going on?) the ayes have it...oops wrong aye...etc.

Eileen, please give Ariel my love...and let her know I'll e-mail her Jeramiah address, she'd asked for it.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Happy Thanksgiving to all...it has been a surprising few years posting here and I am thankful for the good conversations.

Jag,

I am thinking of you and am hopeful your situation will resolve itself soon. Your post about Hot Tuna brought back memories. The Airplane and Hot Tuna did a lot of time in the Santa Cruz area. I remember Grace Slick careening around in a Citroen, and a particularly full tilt blow-out at the Chateau Liberte up in the hills with Hot Tuna including Papa John Creach and Felix Pappalardi. They nearly blew the walls out of that old place.

Eileen,

It is nice to read your positive thoughts in a not so positive time. Looking forward to getting together with you.

Hammond,

Thanks for providing great thoughts and memories of course the 3rd page.

Ohio Girl, McMing, FYI(suspect),Claude,Nicole,Tomas,RNA,Patman,Curious, and all the rest have a full and fulfilling Thanksgiving.

Eric,

You are the man, thanks again for this site and all the dedication to it.

It is time for the Mutant for Peace to reveal himself!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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HI All~ A quick one this morning. Ariel and Alec will be here tomorrow. I haven't seem them since Miranda and I took our little joy ride. Since that time we have all been through so many changes..and we've hardly ever been apart this long. So I think we're in for some great walks and talks and hanging out by the fire. Yes I also count the friendships here as one of my blessings. The other being I am finally finding hooman bein's that I like beyond the computer! I have found a craft I am loving and my 2 girls are still in the loop with me and my parents are not only alive but we are on good terms. Life is good and I am starting to wake being able to appreciate it as of late. No word from Steve. But I bet he's king of the hill somewhere making sure the world around him runs smoothly. Yes Jag, Ohio Girl said all I expect we are all feeling for your situation. I tend to be of the stiff upper lip school when I feel so certain there is an easy remedy. But I have put down my pom pom's a minute to remember it is not an easy thing to live with our bodies taking off on their own, until we know what to do and hopefully don't mind doing it.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope you all have the choice of stuffing yourself's silly and have folks around you to do it with that make you glad.

Name: PS H
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Or were you ref: to Paul's Presidential piece?

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Nic - which post ? My last was about John's passing - what caustic remarks about what subect? - and you too have a great holiday season.... now where is that mystery guy?

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Hammond, You made me worry about SSBoyd with yr last post, cause he made some pretty caustic remarks right here on that same subject...think I'll have a look around the neighborhood for him. Any one hear from him on their home ports?

Hope everyone can enjoy the holidays...they can be tough times...I have a few things to be grateful for and this site is certainly one of them...Happy Holidays to all of you. with warm regard, Nicole

Name: Oho girl
EmailAddress: Happy Thanksgiving
Date: 26 Nov 2003

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Nicole, yeah I know that Buck Owens song, it's perfect. I try to talk to kids when there is a good, natural opportunity, some seem to be empty-headed but then wasn't I when I was a kid? I was full of idealistic visions yet ended up basically shooting dope, there's a particular kind of empty-headedness there. I felt invisible for years but now sometimes I do feel like I have something to say and I'm noticeable at times.

Jag that's a crappy hand you got dealt, it's mind-boggling the little things that can occur to the body the longer we live in it. My prayers are with you on this. I hope you can stay at peace with the situation until it gets resolved whether by an eye-doctor or alternative medicine. I'm paying off the local hospital $50 a month, probably forever. I have medical bills like I always felt bad about "old people" having, so I sympathize with you on that one too.

I hope you all have a good day tomorrow, and a good week. Peace

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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Preview Vol. 3 The 3rd Page - (coming Jan.2004)

"Threats Against the President"

by: Paul Krassner

http://emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/threats.html

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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Okay, okay, I'll get off the soap box after this...I promise

This is from Charlie Degelman's The Weasel Hunter...

by BERTOLT BRECHT (1898-1956)

"Nowadays, anyone who wishes to combat lies and ignorance and to write the truth must overcome at least five difficulties. He must have the courage to write the truth when truth is everywhere opposed; The keenness to recognize it, although it is everywhere concealed; The skill to manipulate it as a weapon; The judgment to select those in whose hands it will be effective; and The cunning to spread the truth among such persons.

These are formidable problems for writers living under Fascism, but they exist also for those writers who have fled or been exiled; they exist even for writers working in countries where civil liberty prevails."

The first version of Brecht's essay was first published in the Pariser Tageblatt, December 12, 1934, under the title "Dichter sollen die Wahrheit schreiben" ("Poets Are to Tell the Truth"). Source: http://www.autodidactproject.org/quote/brecht1.html

Write your asses off, writers. Pass your work around. Read your asses off, readers. Be excited. A great battle lies ahead. venceremos, -the weasel hunter

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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Nik, don't be discouraged by your younger prospects, they don't represent all younger thinking and I see quite a lot of clear thinking emerging from them. When that shit hits their own personal fan (draft?)in a way that throughs the balance off for these selfish and lazy types, a sudden awareness of the problems will cause them to think. The new Rolling Stone has a story about the "Oust Bush" musical tour and also a scathing comphrensive article by Robert Kennedy, Jr. exposing the Bush administrations method of repealing long standing environmental regulations for his greed driven buddies.

Eric, I have seen the articles about the new Hooverist attack on the anti-war movement. It is a fearful thing but I just knew it was coming. These son-a-bitches want to fight the whole enchilada all over again.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress: Tale, not Tail
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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Name: Nicole
EmailAddress: back from lunch...
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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as Jenn would say," Oh My GAWD !!! They practically answered in unison with their heads cocked to the side and a puzzled look on their 22 and 33 year old faces ,"what world situation?" I asked if they knew how social security worked and were they worried that it might not be in place by the time I need it let along the two of them...answer, "uh uh" Pooja, the 22 year old said very seriously, "no, I don't think about that kinda stuff cause then I'd just be worried and it doesn't really effect me." I will buy The Handmaids Tail and give it to her for our secret santa gift...

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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...that would be ,can be put into place

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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...anyone who hasn't, please read The Handmaids Tale. It really shows how methodically and slowly things can put into place then BLAM !!!! all of a sudden the shit hits the fan and everyone is looking around like WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED????? I plan on having a conversation at lunch with some young co workers and first of all just ask them what their take on "the world situation?" I seem to think they don't have any interest in any of it...they are in their 20's or early 30's and go to work and the clubs at night...no one has ever brought up anything about anything...I'm as much to blame for not ingaging them in conversation. so, that's my goal this week, ask them how they feel about any of it...we can preach to the choir all day here...except that people do read these pages and that's a good thing...just talking to myself and formulating and figuring...thanks all. any suggestions?

Name:
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Date: 25 Nov 2003

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"Dissent will not be constrained by hypocracy"

2003 - Mort Subiet

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Nov 2003

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Hey all,

In case you missed it, the NY Times broke a story two days ago, based on a previously secret memo, that the FBI has infiltrated the anti-war movement. This in itself is not very surprising, especially for anyone who remembers J. Edgar Hoover's massive campaign to discredit Martin Luther King, Jr. in the early 60s, or COINTELPRO of the late 60s/early 70s, or the program to infiltrate CISPES (El Salvador, Central American support movement) in the late 70s/early 80s.

But what makes this new incarnation of "FBI As Gestapo" particularly scary is some of the language creep. Check out the article (posted on the Free City News, link below). Note that the FBI is referring to non-violence workshops as "training camps" -- the term that is used for terrorist centers. How soon before we read that sit-ins are "terrorist disruptions"?

Read the article here:

http://www.diggers.org/freecitynews/

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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Interesting timing John. Lenore just read at Vesuvio's in North Beach yesterday (Nov 23)! Here is a site with info and possible contact if she is not up for phone call. I will probably know by tonight. She does not use a computer so that avenue is out:

http://www.litkicks.com/BeatPages/message.jsp?what=Announcements&message=548358&thread=86371&parent=-1

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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John~I will pass this message on, and I or someone else will get back to you one way or the other.

Name: John Yates
EmailAddress: eaglerockenvision@csonline.net
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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I am trying to contact San Francisco poet Lenore Kandel. I am a writer who would like to talk with her about the work she has done since the publication of Word Alchemy. I have not been able to find a phone number for her, or another way of contacting her. If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. I also would be willing to relay information through a friend if she is not comfortable with allowing me to contact her directly.

I believe Kandel is one of the most important poets of my generation who has not been accorded the critical respect she deserves. I would like to help rectify this situation.

You can email me at eaglerockenvision@csonline.net

Thank you.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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Jorma is an amazing musician. I saw Tuna live in Long Beach at an outdoor concert and he was a virtuoso on the acoustic, as well as seeing the Airplane too many times to count in SF and LA. They also had a where are they now piece on 60 minutes, I believe, and he was running a music school and really giving back to the fans and people who loved him. Scholarships and workshops and many many freebies. He's an inspiration and a treasure.

Nik, hipless don't know nuttin. Being there is all it was and all that matters.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress: don't read this mr hip hop...
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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If you read the credits on QMS fresh air LP you'll see my son Jeramiah and I both...Jeramiah was only 18 months old at the time and they called him the Page of Revelee.( you know, musicians tend to sleep late and babies tend to make noise early in the morning ) I did alot of work with Jorma in the 80's upstate before I moved back to SF. Genesis is a great song of his too. He's playing here at the museum of radio and television this week.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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Lord how time dissappears! John died in 89 - so I guess it was 90 or 91 that I met with (Carol?) I have forgotten her name - didn't know her from before as she and John had not been married long as I remember. There was a great wake party for him at the Filmore though, John's red guitar was on a guitar stand onstage with a (constantly) buring cigg. stuck in the guitar peg. A great great show with many musician friends in cameo roles as the lead guitar for the remaining QMS. Great poster to if you can find one.....!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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McMing - John died in the late 90s (I forget the year) maybe 97 of emphysema related complications. I was invited to the funeral but couldn't make it - and I hate funerals anyway. I did meet his widow here in Or. at the Country Fair a year or so after he passed on. Sad he went so young. I never met his son, but he now fronts a group called Quicksilver Gold with Barry Flast and a few others - Greg Elmore on drums I think - covering QMS material.

Name: McMing
EmailAddress: still ranting
Date: 24 Nov 2003

Comments

Thinking about the Airplane, etc (back to earlier post) the lead instrument in pop music has changed several times, for a while it was the sax (Lester Young, Charlie Parker, Coleman Hawkins) occasionally the piano (Jerry Lee Lewis, Leon Russell) but probably the guitar has been front and center for at least 50 years. There have been countless great guitar slingers.

So this is not a rank-out contest, as to who might have been greatest.

IMO Jorma was the heart & soul of the Airplane, and just such a funky creative DISTINCTIVE player .. that when he left, it wasn't the Airplane anymore. No one ever played quite like him. Also, John Cippolina defined the sound of Quicksilver. Does anybody know if he's still alive ? .. Jorma, at last report is alive and well, & posts frequently on his own website, http://jormakaukonen.com/ .. These and a few others captured the magic of the day in their strings & zinged it out for the world to hear. Still vibrant to this day.

Richard Thompson is no slouch on guitar, either. Thanks for the heads-up, Nik.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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Thanks all, I am going to pursue all options and taking wormwood and cloves is not such a radical thing, I can easily handle that as well as rounding up a zapper and even acupuncture. I have had acupuncture therapy years back for meditative relaxation. I enjoyed it. They inserted several areas, ear lobes and wrists and I simply read a book and listened to music for an hour a session. Very restive and calming. I could use that. I am going to keep one last Dr appointment, a neuro-opthamologist, as a final attempt to go the mainstream route, like that has ever been a bastion of support. It will make my family happy though, all avenues will have been attempted and my medical bills will be astronomical! Don't try this without insurance like me!! Oh well blood out of a turnip. What can I say?

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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The traffic light cameras go off everytime the ligh turns red.....they have other better cameras to keep an eye on people!

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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I can't remember who it was I talked about Richard with here at this site...but if you're here today...check this out below.

Richard Thompson: Live in Studio 4A Singer and guitarist Richard Thompson has a rabid cult following and his albums are a staple of rock critic "must have" lists. Thompson talks about his work -- including the live CD 1000 Years of Popular Music -- with NPR's Liane Hansen. Hear full-length cuts of songs performed live. Expanded coverage includes songs from Thompson's Studio 4A session.

If you log onto www.wfuv.org there's a link to this...

Eileen, I saw that in the times yesterday...it's frightening, however, we've all known that anyway I'm sure...however, somehow once things are public knowledge it can go either way...if the majority of folks don't react badly it will encourage the shrub crew. I'm afraid a handful of us won't do...we must have major public outcry...btw, while waiting for the bus on 2nd ave and 42nd street the other day...I noticed how many times the traffic light cameras go off and I didn't see anyone going through the light...I think they just ramdomly check out who's out and about...of course that's right by the UN so maybe that's why.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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yes AND an acupunturist.

Name: McMing
EmailAddress: to Jag
Date: 24 Nov 2003

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Most particularly, if you love to read & write, vision problems are a horror. [Yet another reason to quit tobacco .. it's no good for the eyes.] If I were in your shoes, Jag, I'd look for a good Chinese doctor, sometimes acupunture can be amazingly helpful. That's my 2-cents worth. Hope your problems get resolved quickly.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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Well~I guess you could say we have a party! http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/11/23/security.fbi.reut/index.html

Jag..what is more gross? Thinking about having worms and parasites..or having them, and doing nothing about it? Come on. How hard is it to take powdered cloves in caps 3 times a day, and a dose of wormwood and green walnut hulls once a day for a wk or so? Ha! Just think of telling those doctors what you did to get better. Ha ha, they're NOT going to want to hear it!

Yes, we are supposed to be able to live with those critters. But we have been taking in too many things our body was never supposed to have to deal with..starting with propal alcohols. If it has a fragrance..guess what? Not to mention rubbing alcohol. I won't go into the details and bore you all. But you're all on the list here.

Name: errandsetc-fl
EmailAddress: fany@163.net
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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Name: errandsetc-fl
EmailAddress: fanny@163.net
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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I didn't see your shout out back there McMing. I appreciate the thought, I have been in a dark mood lately with my double vision and inability to muddle through the implications. I have taken to wearing a patch over one eye to block the visual distractions. The pirate look is chic cept I lame it up with my glasses covering the patch but the dour look I carry compliments the patch :). The official diagnosis is sixth eye palsey which translates into a lazy eye that refuses to focus in conjunction with the other and leaves me with visual disorientation that I could of envied in the day. After talking with several opthamologists and an optician they have come to the conclusion that there is no physical reason for the issue, no tumor (cat scan) no diabetes (blood workup) no high blood pressure (thourough checks) no cataracts (glaucoma check) no fucking reason except the fact that it exists! After confering with Eileen I tend to lean towards her concept of Horrors! Parasites! Makes sense but the thought is grotesque. I know the body is a haven for every kind of microbe and germ but they are supposed to keep their distance not move into my senses. Oh well what the &*$*# I will survive and "In the valley of the blind the one eyed man is king" Peace

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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It ain't a party till the cops show up!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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Hi all. Just here for a minute...

Ohio Girl, Your post made me think of that country song, Together Again, by Buck Owens...but not as a love song per say...but as a comfort food kind of song about lost days gone by...you know the one?

Together Again, my tears have stopped fallin', the long lonely night has come to an end...

I caught the tail end of Donny Darko and never knew what it was about...thanks for the synopsis Lott.

Eileen, you go girl

Ming, I could listen to Embryotic Journey 100 times in a row...and do it another 200 more...the Water Song too...

Hammond...just.

Mark...you two

Everyone...yeah team!!!

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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Lott I read the Bradbury story back in the fifties or early sixties (I devoured Sci Fi then) and loved it. I think Twilight Zone did a version of it as well. Putting time travel in perspective is difficult because of all the inherent paradoxes but the "what if" factor is fascinating.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress: For What Its Worth
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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I recently learned that the human body regenerates every single cell in it every seven years! So in essence we are not comprised of one shred of our original being but instead have reproduced our entire physical makeup several times over during a lifetime!

Name: Lott
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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In Ray Bradbury’s classic short story “A Sound of Thunder,” a time traveler steps off the prescribed path and crushes a butterfly. He returns to the future to find that everything has changed. This is the biggest conundrum in the conception of time travel, and perhaps renders time travel physically possible (at least according to Stephen Hawking) but metaphysically impossible.

Until Donnie Darko, films dealing with time travel have limited themselves to being just cool exercises in the “what if?” Terry Gilliam’s Twelve Monkeys (1996) is perhaps the most elaborate and successful movie mind-fuck, but its final revelation provides no answers to the time travel conundrum. The film remains at the level of example—if time travel is like this, then this is what would happen. It doesn’t explain why and its characters remain caught in a loop, destined to repeat themselves forever. Bruce Willis’s character will always watch himself die.

Donnie Darko follows a boy of superior intelligence whose emotional problems propel him on a very strange trajectory through a tangent universe. Donnie’s journey begins when he dreams about a rabbit telling him to leave the house. He follows the rabbit, and escapes being killed by a falling airplane part of unknown origin. But the rabbit tells him that the world is going to end in twenty-eight days. Donnie’s been given life and death at once.

Donnie Darko boldly attempts not only to transcend the time travel conundrum, but to link it explicitly to the biggest question of all: Does everyone die alone?

If God exists, he must by extension have a plan for the universe, a path for everyone to follow. If we are following a path that God knows from start to finish, then we should be able to jump to any point on that path because it already and always exists. Donnie is able to see these paths as Abyss-like arrows emanating from people’s chests. He tries to ask his science teacher what it all means, but his teacher can’t answer—he’ll lose his job. He can’t tell Donnie how to travel in time because it means telling Donnie that there is a sovereign God who created time and who oversees its unfolding.

Donnie’s bible is The Philosophy of Time Travel, a book written by Darko character Roberta Sparrow, a.k.a. Grandma Death. Sparrows are the birds most commonly associated with God’s providence. In the Bible, Jesus asks that we “consider the birds” to understand how God will take care of us. Shakespeare riffs on these words as Hamlet, confronted with his own mortality and understanding that he must take action, says, “There is a special providence in the fall of a sparrow . . . The readiness is all.” But the dark side of God’s providence is death. Hamlet understood this—the readiness of which he speaks is the readiness to die. Throughout Jesus’ teachings, the idea is that true devotion to God will remove the fear of death because of the trust that God is sovereign and he will provide, even after death. As the existential optimist Job says, “Though he slay me, yet I will trust in him.”

So why, then, does Roberta Sparrow say to Donnie, “Every living thing dies alone”? This question throws Catholic schoolboy Donnie into a tailspin. He thinks that the world is going to end and he’s going to die and be alone and there’s nothing he can do about it. Even as he falls in love with Gretchen and comes to know the depth of his mother’s love for him, Donnie watches his world spiral out of control. He finds destruction of his own making and destruction that is unavoidable. He can’t make heads or tails of any of it and comes to find that the world is a terrifying, dark place even as there are pockets of goodness.

Donnie is learning the meaning of what the biblical writer John calls “the now and the not yet.” The Christian believer lives in the paradox of knowing that salvation (from the eternal consequences of sin) has already arrived and that salvation (from the sorrow of living in a fallen world) is still to come. The conflict will be resolved only when the believer sees Christ face to face—that is, on the believer’s mortal death. Chiefly loving the “now” will lead the Christian to try to turn this world into heaven, to seek happiness in the temporal. Living solely for the “not yet” sends the believer into exile, devoid of intimacy with God’s much-loved children, dreaming only of an escape hatch. Choosing to (try to) love both creates a holy neurosis that might be what Paul meant when he said, “For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.” Or what Jesus did when he laid down his life for his friends.

As the clock runs out, Donnie makes love with Gretchen and then goes to Roberta Sparrow’s. He’s found love, and now he needs answers. If everyone dies alone, then it doesn’t matter that he loves Gretchen. What he finds is death, destruction, sorrow, and despair. The complete darkness of the fallen world is laid bare before him, and Roberta Sparrow is nowhere to be found. And then the sky starts to fall.

Donnie watches the clouds gather above his house, and then scenes from the movie run in reverse. Donnie is back in his bed on the night of his death. He laughs. He should laugh: he has time traveled, and now he will die—but Gretchen won’t be murdered. His family will weep but the world won’t come to an end at the close of twenty-eight days. He’s sacrificed himself to prove that God exists, that God is indeed sovereign over everything—and if God exists then no one dies alone, it is safe to die, and the world doesn’t have to come to an end. His death does change the future, profoundly, but he laughs because he’s learned that death isn’t the worst thing that can happen to a person, not by half.

Name: Guip
EmailAddress:
Date: 23 Nov 2003

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Hey Diggers heres some free money

PLEASE SEND YOUR RESPONSE TO MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS ( xxx@xxx) FROM THE DESK OF: Mr.Donald May Branch Manager, Stallion Bank Nig Ltd, Idumota branch, Idumota,Lagos.

Dear Friend,

This letter may come to you as a surprise due to the fact that we have not yet met. The message could be strange but real if you pay some attention to it. I could have notified you about it at least for the sake of your integrity. Please accept my sincere apologies....

[Another bank branch manager from Western Africa with a proposition to claim some dead millionaire's estate. Geez, there have been a surprising number of rich people who've died in airplane crashes with no surviving relatives in Africa since email became so popular. --ed.]

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Nov 2003

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You got to see this!

http://www.syzygyjob.net/warissues/messages/51894.shtml

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Nov 2003

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Hammond~I spent my last days smoking watching the flash points. For some reason it's writing more than a few lines about personal "serious" stuff and big stress. The "serious" stuff is easy to drop. The rest well..maybe I can remember how sick I was. Cause I was damn sick a mere few days ago. I can't believe the difference in just 4 days! The ability of the body to recover is truely amazing..although I am sure I have some serious internal damage to repair. Cleanses, suppliments and my zapper I believe will put me back together. Speaking of the Zapper..Anyone out there have herpes? It will knock it out almost immediately..along with more things than I can list! Smoking challenges seem to go in cycles of 3-4..first 3-4 days, 3-4 wks, 3-4 months. Sneaky shit. I just can't let my guard totally down. I have this theory about addiction. No matter how long one has been clean..once that door has been opened, EVER, it will forever lurk as a known possibility. Some notion we can be freed from pain..painlessly or with little or no effort. But it got clear I would not have all my strength to fight this monster that is feeding off the unwary and unconscious, and I refuse to go down easy.

Claude-excellent message and picture. Right to the point. Hammond..funny yet sad one. Another day to address the demon. I have such a strong feeling this has to be addressed as strong, on the unseen level, while "they" remain distracted with the apparent. Time to do morning chanting. All will be revealed.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Nov 2003

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WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION FOUND IN IRAQ!

WMD FOUND IN IRAQ!

http://emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/wmd.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Nov 2003

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Yeow! As I posted my note - we were Phentermined to the Spamic Max!

Eric?

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 22 Nov 2003

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Nice drawing - thanks claude

Eileen - Keep the faith - be stong - and CONGRATULATIONS!!! The hump is probably yet to come in that deep space where smoking is the rock between hard places - but you are DOING IT!!! Don't let go of the moment...... Suddenly - out of the blue - you won't be a smoker who is stopping anymore and you will just be you - Yahoo! Free - Free at last......!!!!

And then "always remember " in each and every moment that you can NEVER EVER NEVER EVER HAVE ANOTHER ONE - EVER!!!!!!

I am a prime example of failing to remember this..... If you can do it, hey maybe (just maybe) so can I (someday) (sometime) (maybe) - ouch!

Name: McMing, weighing in (another middle-weight)
EmailAddress: Hey, Y'all
Date: 22 Nov 2003

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Greetings & a most courageous good morning to all !

Jag especially, but to anyone downheartened, I think maybe we're turning the corner here .. and one little ray of inspiration that has chanced to come my way, is a recent book called "Got A Revolution ! 'The Turbulent Flight of the Jefferson Airplane' " by Jeff Tamarkin .. a terrific account of SF days, 1965 or so, all the way up to almost the present .. the Matrix, the early Airplane, a whole lotta crazy shenanigans. Try listening to some of those discs again .. 'Surrealistic Pillow' or 'Bless Its Pointed Little Head' .. or Hot Tuna .. & also, a rediscovery for me, Quicksilver. 'Happy Trails' indeed.

Point is, those astonishingly great sounds got across the country [to DC, in my case] ... across the world in fact, & conveyed a subtle & seductive message of freedom & unfettered creative possibility thru all the BS .. like a stealth signal, flying "under the radar" .. I think it could happen again.

Peace & Power .. Still Freaking Freely .. Yr Humble Servant .. M.

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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WOW!

Check out this guy's work! I wish there were a way to post an image. Is There?

http://www.artgalleryaspen.com/tomuxbridge-politicalart/1024RIGHT-AND-WRONG.JPG

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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I get a blog that Coyote forwarded sometime ago. This was a trivia thing that knocked me out being I was in Memphis a few months ago for the first time and being serious Jerry Lee disciple.

November 23, 1976 -- Police arrest Jerry Lee Lewis outside the gates of Graceland after he shows up the 2nd time that night making a scene, shouting, waving a pistol, demanding to see Elvis Presley.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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U.S. Detonates 'Mother of All Bombs' in Florida Test.

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/367649|top|11-21-2003::18:06|reuters.html

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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I was just struck (again) by the beauty of getting together like this. We've all "been there" and now we're "here somewhere" and it sure feels good. "Here somewhere" in the sense of, where the heck are we really when we talk over computer terminals? "Here somewhere" in the sense that we all seem to struggle at times to find our place in society in 2003. But here we are, together again. Peace

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Er.. I know the quote is Learys but my reading at the time was Dharma Bums

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Welcome home Eileen!!

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Yeah Mark I too was a tad young when I hit SF (18) and wasn't privy to alot of the inner mechanism but I was welcomed and comfortable and even ran into a few missing in action people from my So Cal neighborhood who had migrated north in 66. I didn't make my first visit till 67. I remember that in 65 or 66 me and a few friends who were smoking dope and segueing into acid tagged ourselves as hiplings, long before we knew much more than Turn On Tune In and Drop Out. Kerouac led me north more than anything.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Democracy Now!'s report on protest in Miami is bringing tears. Makes me think of Tennaimen Square. What has happened to this country?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Hammond, Jag, Nic, and Hip,

Finding common ground in a culture that has been scattered over the last decades brings a sense of community to those who move around the "outside" of the mainstream. Some like myself kind of wandered around in it back then, a little to young to fully engage, and due the lives we led then many of the people I hung with are no longer alive. So when I can make a connection of sorts it helps me see myself and remember the influences and struggles that have become me. There are, at times, human frailties involved but I for one don't see one-up-manship as the core of it. Hip, change the frame of reference you utilize and take another look.

I just read that Bush intends to open up the Alaskan wilderness for oil leasing in spite of his energy bill being blocked today in congress. I think the battle lines are being defined more clearly and the thrust of his illicit intentions are coming out into the open for the population. He is a bold motherfucker but I don't think he will get away with this one. Peter Berg and I have begun to open up dialogue with bioregional activists in the North West as part of our efforts to bring the Winter Olympic Environmental travesties into line. This is in the early stages after the International Olympic Committee "awarded" Vancouver the 2010 Winter Games. Some of the strongest and most coherent bioregionalists and environmentally adept folks organize in that area. We didn't get far with the Games in Nagano, and we raised a little hell in Salt Lake City and we are going round and round with the Olympic Committee in Turin, Italy at present but the region around the Vancouver thang is a whole other deal.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Day 3+ CLEAN and feelin' good. Darkness and pain have lifted. Miranda baby sat me thru the worst of it so I wouldn't give in. Finished 2nd rug..a real beauty. Cold wind blowing. Just passing by, until I can come safely play. Good stories.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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I get Hips dig in the sense that I went to the Haight to get away from the HS mentality of coolest dude at the prom or BMOC arrogance but that in no way diminishes the importance of the shared fellowship that comes from actually being in a place on the planet where the Times Were Definately A'Changing. The era was a seminal influence on American culture even to this day.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Thanks claude - I added the link to Mario's name on the page. This will be included in the first issue Vol. 3 of the journal. (Jan. 1, 04)

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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hey, thanks, 3rd Page. The very words themselves. The passion in Mario is evident by his voice in the film clip. He's not reading these words; he had no script, no teleprompter, and certainly no little receiver in his ear like W is rumored to use...

you can see the film clip at

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/21/1524217

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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"Co-Emergent Wisdom "

comes to mind,

"Each One Teach One."

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Hi Nic - The Whole Earth List of Names = what the accumulated effect would be. - and how is the City this time of year? Sorry you couldn't get out West this year.....

Hip-Hop - It's all the same ole Free Frame of Reference mate - an invisible coffeehouse, with some friends, friends of friends, and new friends doin this and doin that - remembering, laughing and even crying at times. Some of us, like Steve, are actually Silent. We like the laughing part the best.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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That's very funny actually...but we're just finding connections...maybe you haven't had the pleasure of realizing shared history with other people...I personally love it...it gives me a sense of continuity that because of my life style, it would otherwise be lacking there of...and none of them were famous then for the most part...and we say it to eachother like little kids who say, "wow did you see hop-long cassidy at the fair today...if they were famous...so who's the one trying to be hip slick and cool? me I'll be the fool any day.

but, that was a very funny read...I can certainly laugh at myself if we come off that way..ha!

ps...btw way if I was REALLY trying to impress...oh my, the list of names...

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Insert inspired by claude/inspired by Mario!

http://emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mario.html

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Hey Hipper - We were all there too! Funny we didn't see you. (Suspect)

Name:
EmailAddress: Hip Hipper Hippest
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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The "Hipper Than Thou" syndrome

I was at Woodstock!

Yeah? Well I was at Woodstock and Altamont.

Oh yeah, thats cool, but I was at Woodstock, Altamont, and sat in on the basement tapes!

Well far out man! I was at all of those and I sat on Hippie Hill with George Harrison and smoked out!!

Yeah well I rolled the joints on Hippie Hill that day and then I went to Janis's for dinner!!

Awesome dude I thought I remembered seeing you their when I came in with Carlos, Jerry G. Ken Kesey and Emmett

Ad Infinitum :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

Comments

and today, on DemocracyNow, there is a film clip of Mario Savio's mythic speech on the Berkeley Campus, the "...bodies on the gears...and on the levers...and stop the machine!" (somewhat paraphrased) speech that was heard round the world. Sent chills up and down my spine. In that year (1964) and the few preceeding, Americans students had confronted the beast in the South and brought that fervor to bear on the University Administration. The students, fresh from the Freedom Summer in the South, wanted to organize on campus, hand out literature and fund raise in support of civil rights activities; the admin. forbade (hard to believe , now) them this activity. What I had not realised was that this was the first (according to Amy G.) time that the cops actually got called onto campus to arrest a student for handing out lit. Cop car rolls onto Sproul Plaza, they stash Jack Wiesman in the car and 3000 students (and these are all clean-cut white middle class young ladies and gentlemen, suits w/ties and proper dresses) sit down around the car for the next day and a half. By the time they got it all settled down again, they had closed down the whole campus, faculty included. Thousands of cops, a major big deal in it's time, radicalised a lot of students, spread all over the country. Mario was so young and so earnest, clean-cut student type on the cusp of the future. A Catholic, raised in the honorable old tradition of organised Catholic social justice activism; Dorothy Day and all that extending back to the turn of the century. He was speaking then specifically of UCBerk, but his words apply to our present situation here in America. My beloved country, under the thrall of fear and the yoke of the Military Industrial Complex.

Name: YIN
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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Harmful elements in the air symbols clashing everywhere Reaps the fields of rice and reeds while the population feeds Junk floats on polluted water an old custom to sell your daughter Would you like number 23? Leave your yens on the counter please Hong Kong Garden

Tourists swarm to see your face Confuscius has a puzzling grace Disoriented you enter in unleashing scent of wild jasmine

Slanted eyes meet a new sunrise a race of bodies small in size Chicken Chow Mein and Chop Suey Hong Kong Garden takeaway Hong Kong Garden

Name: FYI -Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 21 Nov 2003

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London research indicates you should never use your cell phone in an elevator or e.g. on public transport when going through a tunnel. The toxic waves bounce around in the car replicating until you are out of the tunnel or elevator car. In the mean time you and everyone around you is being bombarded with the toxic invisiblity.

Name: R N A
EmailAddress: free brain
Date: 20 Nov 2003

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A friend and raw food chef visiting from California told me about a product that protects her brain from cell phone radiation

Green 8 http://emfsafe.com/brain/proof.htm

i just ordereed one for my daughter and myself. i'm very concerned about cell phone radiation, and have read that the "ear buds" may not really help. I have a friend who used a cellphone a whole lot over 10 years and died this year from a tumor right where the antennae was. another friend, who used her cell way way way excessively has a tumor right where the antennae is and her eye bulges out.. these cell phones are not a joke, and even if you have free minutes, you should use them as little as possible. anyway, i know we don't sell things on this site. i have no personal gain from passing this info along, it seems this may be a lifesaving artifact.

sending love, r n a

Name: R N A
EmailAddress: free brain
Date: 20 Nov 2003

Comments

A friend and raw food chef visiting from California told me about a product that protects her brain from cell phone radiation

Green 8 http://emfsafe.com/brain/proof.htm

i just ordereed one for my daughter and myself. i'm very concerned about cell phone radiation, and have read that the "ear buds" may not really help. I have a friend who used a cellphone a whole lot over 10 years and died this year from a tumor right where the antennae was. another friend, who used her cell way way way excessively has a tumor right where the antennae is and her eye bulges out.. these cell phones are not a joke, and even if you have free minutes, you should use them as little as possible. anyway, i know we don't sell things on this site. i have no personal gain from passing this info along, it seems this may be a lifesaving artifact.

sending love, r n a

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Nov 2003

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Speaking of McCarthyism

Letera Mort (for Harvey Job Matusow)

http://emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/leteramort.html

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Nov 2003

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There were a number of people I got to know in Venice. The public portal to the scene was the Venice West Cafe, run at that time by John Haag and his wife Anna. Dawson McGouch (not sure that's how he spelled it) made the coffee and sandwiches. VWC was seedily authentic, books, chess, poets, dim lighting. It was there I fell under the wing of Vaughn Marlowe, who said he used to run the bookstore next door, and was then paid staff at KPFK as News Director, IIRC. He invited me to volunteer there and there I was. I worked for a while with Leonard Brown, who, I was told, had produced, or created or something that seminal tv show "77 Sunset Strip", which was what passed for hollywood cutting edge hip at the time. The Hipster as folk Hero and The Hipster Detective. His girlfriend was Clair Brush. I remember being at their house one time for dinner and getting more stoned on reefer than I had ever thought possible. Yes, Venice was def where I caught reefer madness. Leonard brought me into this radio documentary called "Five Nights in the Ghetto" he was producing for Pacifica, which involved five sequential shows of interviews, man-on-the-streets, and grim warnings of dire consequences from the Watts and South Central communities, aired during the spring before the Watts Riots. THAT was an eye-opener for this young sprite, walking around the 'hoods, trying to get people to talk to a scared long-haired white kid on tape about what it was like down there. Freep had also just done some work on publiscising the Watts Towers, trying to save them, so I had already been down there. Of course, when the riots came, I had to go back, and I wound up driving Yorum Getzler's white VW beetle with him, cameras aready, following a stream of cop cars down the Harbor Fwy and getting off right into the middle of a street confrontation just off Alameda Blvd. Cops at one end of the block and a mob on the other. The mob threw rocks at us and the cops threw us on the ground, not impressed with my home-made LAFP Pree Pass. They let us go right away, they were very paranoid, to quote St Dylan.

What really stood out then was these folks, who were not young'ns, had all recently been throught the Hollywood Blacklist scandal and the McCarthy Committee hearings and this was all fresh in their minds. These were old line lefties, and all that New Left ferment was just a glimmer on the horizon at that point. Goldwater had just been soundly chased back to his cave, and LBJ was serving up the Great Society.

Jeez that's all I can do right now...

Name: dosed
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Date: 20 Nov 2003

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Claude, wasnt that Augustus Stanislaus Owsley.

Name: claude
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Date: 20 Nov 2003

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Nic: I plan to be in NM for the duration, so y'all come. H'lane is in residence somewhere in NoCal these days; Clane is in touch with her. I have some great photos of H up at the Land a few yers ago. Her first visit there in over twenty years. She is a sight to behold. I told her there is a diorama awaiting her in the Smithsonian, depicting the last unreconstructed hippie.

Name: Hammond
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Date: 20 Nov 2003

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claude - gone on and on with flashes. Do you know Tom and Vickey Kelly? The owned The Omnibus and the Bizzar Bazzar - now living here in Oregon. I have to go take a nap now to stop thinking about crazy mad wonderful LA people! I am writing about Morocco at the moment - and dealing with another set of crazy, mad and (not so) wonderful people.

Ah the Echos of our minds - We (all of us here) are a veritable Think Tank of Thinkdom. bye for now :-)

Name: OOOOps.....
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 20 Nov 2003

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the address -

Name: Hammond
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Date: 20 Nov 2003

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claude - Now I remember "the question" - I asked if you knew Jean-Marc Vasseur from those daze. Re-reading your note I see the Jim (Roger) Mcguin girlfriend mention - so perhaps you did know him. He lives in France now - but then - as now he is one of McGuin's closest frieinds. During the time frame you mention below - Jean-Marc was living in Hollywood area. You also mentioned the Venice West set - Do you know Philomene Long and/or the late John Thomas? Philomene and I are in close contact if you do - (lord, the number of LA (in that small window of time we are speaking of) folks that you and I might have in common is rather unimaginable) - Did you also hang out at Bito Lido's, The Chetah and the Lighthouse? Were you at the Easter Love In in Griffith Park? Did you get a dose of the crabs (like the rest of us!) from the waitress at The London Fog?.... I must stop or I will go on forever....... LA/Hollywood in this time was the most incredible scene - as you say, of loose elements that just melded together to have this uniquely LA sorta Pandora's Party - and the we were gone......

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 20 Nov 2003

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claude - !!!!! Yes, yes and yes! You and I undoubtedly crossed paths during this time. I may have even come by your house in Echo Park! I was at the 5th Estate nearly every Fri-Sun in and out over and above.... Art was in the basement (write to me at the address above and I will hook you up. [Can't leave Art's address here] He sent me a picture (which I have lost) of him dressed like Robin Hood handing out the first Freep issues at the Faire front entrance. I can also connect you (if you need it) to Delores Mitchell (wife and co-founder of the 5th Estate with Al - who is very ill) I wanted to include a shot of the place in my book - yet no one had a photo (Kunkin included - and he sent out a search missive to all the old photographers for the Freep et al) Delores had to comb her family photo albums to find the rather pitiful photograph of the front of the Estate which is in my book - which may be the only existing photo of this important, utterly wonderful hang-out that is was. - I too hung out at Fred C. Dobbs - This is where met up with the likes of Vito Paleukas, Bunk Gardner of the Mothers and the Fraternity of Man ensemble...Wanted to include a photo of this in my book as well but the only shot Î could find was a modern day photo of the building it was in - now a dentist's office I think.

Re: the tests - I think we were there together as well. Sorry to keep dropping my book in here but if you haven't read it here is the vignette on about the Acid Test

http://www.thefarm.org/museum/hammondlsd.html

Sound familiar? They had the tub there as well.

As with Nic - you and I need to have a good ole fashion sit down... I can't remember the question

Oh, here's one. Did you know Bernardo?

Name: Nik
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Date: 20 Nov 2003

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very familiar story. I believe you and H'lane and I met at Olema or Treat St...somewhere, I have a picture of you both somewhere in my head...I'm excited to think one day we can all meet in the middle somewhere...Maybe NM?

Name: claude
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Hammond, and Nicole.

I was living in Echo Park for a while in the spring of 1965, about 5-6 blocks up EP Blvd from Sunset (Pioneer Market and Pioneer Take-Out on the corner, always bustling.) Lived in warren of rooms and outbuilding some anglo guy named Bill something had. He lived there with his whole family, married to a Hispnic lady and they had some young lids, Bunch of us lived there for a while. This was while I was working at the Freep, yup, in the basement of the Fifth Estate. Al somebody ran the Fifth as an under-age nightclub/coffeehouse and it was always packed with kids. I walked in the door with the lead article for issue #4, an interview with Mario Savio, fresh down from Berkeley. I interviewed Mario for KPFK News, where I had been helping out as a newsroom volunteer. I was 19. Anyway, I transcribed the interview and trundled it down to Art Kunkin, and the next thing I knew, I was working for the Freep as well. Art was staying (illegally) down in the basement, and there were always a bunch of people coming in for one thing or another. A very happening place for a 19 yo to get to hang out in. I did a little every thing, a bit of reportage, typesetting on such (now) antique dinosaurs as a VariTyper and a paper tape controlled justifying typewriter called (it's coming back to me) a Justo-writer, which gave the paper that pro look of the columns equal width. This was a big deal for Art to get. I also set a lot of type for the ads, learned all about paste up. Then Art would drag the whole pile of camer ready copy down to a printer in Long Beach, and then drag all the printed bundles of Freeps back uptown to distribute, all in the old pickup camper (was it a dodge) that ran on five cylinders. On mornings when cash subscriptions came in in the mail, we would get to go eat breakfast just down the street. I should def talk with Art, if he writing a history.

You guys were there then, let me ask you about something I observed back then, see if you agree. It seemed to me that one of the seminal events in the early coming together of the way-spread-out and largely unaware of each other freak community scattered through the ghettos and canyons and hills of the LA metroplex, was the Renaissance Pleasure Faire, a moment when all these folks who had come to try that one on got to see how many other folks there were like them. I remember walking around at the first one, out in the Malibu hills somewhere, the Paramount Ranch, and sharing this utter euphoria over feeling surrounded by other freaks. Something clicked there, I think, for a lot of people, a realisation of how many freaks there were and the power of coming together. ^Those were a couple of very densly packed years for me in LA. The remnants of the Venice West scene, the Strip when the first long hairs started hanging out, long before it degenerated to riots and stuff. I remember the Artists' Protest Tower that a DiSuervo ,perhaps it was Mark, or Tony, erected on a vacant lot bwtween Ciros and Whiskey. A tensile structure of rods and cable and bright cloth. And right up the street, for a magical moment of a few months, The Cafe Fred C. Dobbs, (I don't got to show you no stinkin' badges) a semi tragic happening of a little hole in the wall on the north side of the strip. I t was the dream of Bonnie and Ivars, who were sweetly in love and putting this cafe together. Just before the pplace opened, Bonnie and Ivars went down to TJ to get some stuff for the place, and Ivars was killed in a car wreck. Bonnie came back alone and bravely went ahead and opened the place. A bunch of us helped out. I would cook there occaisonally. I think I cooked a burger for Dylan, who made an appearance on one of the nights he sat in with the Byrds at Ciros while Tamborine Man was on the charts. I never knew why, but the place closed down after a few months, Bonnie went on to meet Hugh Romney and become part of the mythos. I can't remember how I got involved with those folks, what the connection was, but I got to be a Byrds groupie for a while, which meant that I got to do them favors, like drive Jim McGuin's girlfriend back to Palos Verdes, or was it David Crosby's girl friend?

Yeah, acid. That was all mixed up in the time as well. All these folks seeing stuff, peeking thru those doors of perception. When I first ran into it, it was still legal. You could go down to Mexico and get the pure Sandoz, caame in a little glass tube about as thick as a pencil, maybe inch and a half long (you could easily stick it up yr ass if needed), had 250 hits in it. Sugar cubes. Anyway, so by the time the Pranksters rolled the bus down to LA to bring us the word, I was right there for it. Part of the publicity machine. The first one was for the liberals and academics, at that wonderful oniondome church up in Northridge, out in the Valley, Unitarian, I think. They set up and did the whole deal, kool-aid and all, but minus the lectricity. The next weekend they pulled out all the stops down on Alameda. Legend has always had it that Paul Foster (RIP) dropped a decimal point in dosing the kool-aid that night, so everybody got a 10x dose. IIRC, H'lane got this tidbit of info from him when she and I and Clane stayed at the Hog Farm up in Tujunga for a couple of weeks in the summer of 1967. Eileen will remember when we all came back from that LA trip and wound up crashing at the Pine Street house for too long, because the CommCo had imploded while we were gone.

I had brought a young Freep volunteer, a nice Jewish valley high-school girl who was walking a bit on the wild side. I can't remember her name. I invited her in the spirit of adventureand she was up for it. I don't think she had done any dope before. I am driving this stripped down, bare metal 1954 Jaguar XK 140M with no top and problems, but tamed enuf to drive around. One of the great beasts of the road, and I had raced all the way to Deadman's Curve in it. Anyway, we get there and it's funky and not too crowded. Some people people I know are there. Doc Stanley. Clair Brush. Lot of milling about, not an inch of plush in that old warehouse. The multi media is swirling all around. They bring out the garbage cans of Kool-aid and I have a couple and Bring one to my date. The Dead start playing and we go ssit againt the back wall with a bunch of people. Beyond that, it starts to get all hazy. I distinctly remember a moment, after the band took a break, getting fixated on this distant light, which I got up a checked out, which turned out to be the glow of the Dead's big McIntosh amps I found out as I stumbled through the mikes and stuff. There was, of course, the unforgetable "Who cares?" cries of despair. I had thought at the time it was Clair Brush calling out. but I never found out. It went on forever and as the dawn came, the cops did indeed come around, some guy in a suit did hand out Kool cigarettes,and I remember telling myself I was supposed to be scared. Somehow I found the girl, who had survived intact, somehow, and seemed to be fine, although she thought she ought to get home. The Jag, of course, had a dead battery, but there there were plenty of people reeling about in the street and they were willing to push us, as the cops cheered us on, and off we motored, somehow safely getting her home. I have never seen her since, but I would love to hear what her take on all that was..

I left the Freep in late 1966, bound for San Fran with an angry ex-husband on our heels, the Jag traded for a pickup to haul us up, H'lane's daughter Modi (Modi is now an indy filmaker in LA and recently a mom herself.) and H'lane pregnant with Clane.

Well, jeez, I didn't mean to talk yr ear off. What was it you were asking?

Name: Jag
EmailAddress: Each one Teach One
Date: 19 Nov 2003

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It seems so simple yet I remember all the times I did some little something and if nothing else, it made me right with myself. Thanks

Name: Ohio girl
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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I have long felt that I will never "change" anything on a grande scale, but that I might do some good on a one-to-one basis with people I am in contact with. (Yes.... each one teach one.) The Administration is a huge awful boulder thrown into our common lake. But, each of us can make small ripples that spread and spread and spread and when enough people care, these small ripples could add up to more than the wake caused by that choking huge boulder. I think that's why society eventually tends to right its own wrongs, but it doesn't happen by itself, it happens when the people desire change. Peace

Name: Mark
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Jag,

I am struggling with the same problem and be assured that many are afflicted as well. This is the import of the Bush program and you are reacting normally. Just keep your eye on the ball, take care of yourself, and remember that phrase....each one teach one. Just keep on going.

Name: Jag
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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The current climate of right wing incomptence coupled with insensitive social programs and the enrichment of the few at the expense of the rest of us is indicative of a new tomorrow, a grand dawning, an inevitable downslide that seems to be an inexorable degradation of the human condition. Somehow greed has surpassed humanity as the prime motivator of progress. How to respond? What to do? Why do anything? Serious questions and not to many answers. I can rant, I can help my neighbor, I can question my own values, but can I make an immediate difference? I think the odds favor the Moneyed Interests who can manipulate and buy public opinion and only have to profer a pittance to seem as though they have your interests at heart.

What to do!! What to say!! Rally round the flag boys, gather round the cause.

I feel lost yet so assured that the evil that permeates this world is heading for a fall, I just can't figure out why. (WE KNOW THEY ARE WRONG)

Name: Hammond
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Er.... no, I wasn't into ice capades back then. I was into speed, though.

Name: Nik
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Ice capades.

Name: Hammond
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Nic - might have been the Cockette show if it was the early early one at that Chinese Theater in North Beach - but what was he doing in LA? That's the question....: -)

Name: Nik
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Hammond, Scott was an ice skater initially...and he directed some Cockette shows...He is in the Monterey Pop movie dancing near a Tepee with Pamela. I think he eventually died in a bath house fire as did Ricky Shamblin...we all moved to SF together...Ricky was the boy toy of the guy who owned all the Tad's Steakhouses...we first lived at his house in the oakland hills...then we took an apt at 191 Frederick Street (corner of Ashbury)...Scott was also grandson of Damon Runyon and a very interesting dude.

ps I can't put this book down.

Name: Ps
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Jenn is just the bestest!!!!! :-)))))))) !

Name: Hammond
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Nic - The name Scott Runyon rings a distant echo (park) bell. What was he up to back then? - Reflash - Nic, I am still amazed at the number of places and people you and I have on common ground going back to the daze in LA - not to mention SF in various quarters.... When are you coming out here! We need to sit down.....

Name: Nicole
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Hammond did I ask you if you knew Scott Runyon or Ricky Shamblin or Pamela Poland in those old LA days? circa 1965-6...echo park?

Name: Hammond
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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PS - Claude - the "Prison Journal" is Ken's work not Zane's - Gus Van Zant was there as well. A fun night to be sure....And speaking of that LA Time frame - You might have still been at the Free Press when I used to sleep under Hugh R's (now Wavy) desk on ocassion - he called me "The Desk Boy" - and secondly do you happen to know Jean-Marc Vasseur? At the time he was around the scene doing films and selling acid - also a song writer after a fashion... Curious....

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Claude - that rings my bell a few times. Del and I were very close friends and I also know Art Kunkin - who you undoubtedly know ala the Freep. Did you hang out at The 5th Estate? - anyway, re: the Uke you speak of ala Tiny Tim - and the Hugh connection. I have a copy of the poster from that A Test and Tiny was listed, but I don't remember him being at the Test - also where I got my card. Were you there? - I don't know your friend Doc - but I do have Art 's e-mail address and he would probably know. He is currently writing the history of the FreePress - I am also in touch with his daughter Anna so e-mail me at my address and I will point you in the right direction. Especially if you were at the Test you will appreciate this bit from the other night. Zane Kesey and the remaining Pranksters came to Portland just a few days ago to promote the publication and release of his "Prison Journals" - check this out - printed much like the Oracle colorwise....Anyway, I went over to the Bagdhad Theater to hang out, have fun and give Zane a copy of my book. As you may know on the back cover is a photo of my Test Card. So, I walk into the theater crowed with old and new Dead Heads et al du period book in hand and the first Prankster who comes up to me is Jennie Murphy (Eugenie) - She was at the door the night of the Test in LA and sold me (maybe you to) my ticket to forever. Funny people those Pranksters... But the biggest fun and flash that night was realizing that here I was in 2003 - in another old building. listening to the Prankster Band play a warped rendition of The GD's "That's It For The Other One" - dancing around with some of the same folks I danced with 38 years ago during my first acid trip. George Walker (the bus driver) and I looked at each other and smiled that 80 yard smile as we gave each other a big hug.... Great stuff when it lasts eh?

Name: Nik
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Claude, the synchronicity of everything coming out about this stuff just now is pretty convincing to me...from many different sources...and it seems time for a swing back to at least a godess/god shared platform...mother earth father sky is good. I guess we just keep seeking until we're ready to know...sometimes I think that's when you pass on to the next realm...interesting stuff for sure...

Name: claude
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Nicole

I read DaVinci Code in the last month or so and was caught right up in it. As I remember, (I read far too many books) there is a lot in it about the male/female dichotomy, and how the Catholic Church's amalgam of what was to be called Christianity, considered any reference to the female principle as heretical. There's a lot to ponder here, the whole Mary thing, and the notion that old Chuy was actually married to Mary and that they had a child and that this child was to be the true disciple of Christ. A detective story that educates you about some deeply hidden origens of Christianity and how the present shape of the religion was distilled out of a lot of history, some of which the patriarchy of the Church didn't want known.

Reminded me of Robbins' "Another Roadside Attraction", in which the big secret the Church was hiding was the mummified body of Christ stashed for a couple of millenia in the vaults of the Vatican, evidence of his non- ressurrection.

The best fiction blends the truth in, gets you thinking...

Name: claude
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Date: 19 Nov 2003

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Speaking of the Stanley family, I love to hear any word on an old friend, Michael Augustus Stanley, who came out of Chicago in the mid sixties. I first met him in LA, around the LA Free Press, where I worked a couple of years before I moved up to Frisco in late 66. He called himself "Lovable Ol' Doc Stanley, played some guitar and new all sorts of stuff about the insider politics of LA. He always claimed kin to the Stanleys, and thought Augustus Owsley Stanley was a cousin of his. From him I first learned the name of Gene Bisqualiuz, a legendary Hispanic Sherrif of LA County in the fifties and sixties. He know Hugh Romney, Del Close and those Second City folks, and Doc once took me over to the house in LA where Romney was staying, where Tiny Tim was a house guest, before he made it big. Tiny Tim played his Uke for us. This would have been, I think, 1965, about the time the Acid Tests got to town. Doc was the one who got me to check that infamous AT of Tom Wolfe fame, down at 111th and Alameda, that has passed into mythology. For that lead alone, I owe him. Doc was the first person I knew to pick up on the Diggers and declare them of crucial social significance. During his LA times he was hanging out with a teeny cupcake-blondie folksinger (they played the Troubador and other venues) named Diane Star King, whom he called Jellybean.

Anyway, Doc was up in the Haight from the first, and I remember distinctly his going to the Free Frame of Reference (was it Page St?) which was the first manifestation of the Free Store. He picked right up on the deep significance of Free Store. Last I heard of him, he had gotten into some kind of trouble up in Me