The Digger Archives Guestbook 2003

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NOTE: this file contains the entries from September, 2003. The regular Guestbook contains entries later in 2003.

Name: ???
EmailAddress: where's steve???
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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Nic, i'm sure you got no news from 4th street.

i know how he loves dialoguing with us here. i'm hoping he's grooving somewhere.

Steve, your silence is deafening. We miss you and your light.

with aloha, R N A

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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The [ Fall Back ] issue of The 3rd Page Vol. 2 is now online!

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/index.html

New material appears first in nearly all sections...

Enjoy!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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BTW The site Gilda gave me? IT WORKS!!!!!! I feel like I have a new computer. I was getting so many popups I could hardly type or stay with where I was..plus would occasionally have my home page taken over. I was ready to throw my computer out the window. This is such a relief. THANKS

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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Hi Nicole~Ahh you are so good at passing us pictures. I'm looking forward to voyeuristically enjoying the coming seasons with you..saves on the gas.

Got your email. Thanks for the number. I will have to rearrange my psychic a bit and give him a call..soon. It's that leap over history and space thing.

Name: nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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i meant...most OF them...

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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Eileen, Yep that's what I did...I'll call him at home today and I'll e you his home number.

I'm so glad I had a boy...my friends and my sisters who suffer daughters, well most have them have worked things out by now but the holy hell of teenage girls...

and Tomas, you are blessed...with yr girls, not with the politics of your neighborhood.

Mark...yeah, btw your piece, WOUND, is beautiful...

Everyone, I was upstate over the weekend and Autumn has arrived...leaves turning, air smells of woodsmoke and apples, plumes of mist rising off the creeks, the sky like opal and the air crisp. I love it.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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Nicole~BTW I never got your email. You must be using my old msn address. I'm back to mcn.org.

But I did call the hospital and Bill had already been let loose. Any more word on him? Please tell him I said hello. Any of Steve??

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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till only 25?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 30 Sep 2003

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Just checked in here after a very emotional evening watching Martin Scorcese's work on PBS, tonight was Skip James and J.B. Lenoir. I was dancing and raging and crying at the same time. Learnng that Cream's recording of "I'm so Glad" paid for Skip James' surgery was inspiring. Thankfully Eileen, you have sent me to bed with a good laugh, I have been advised over the years, that boys should be sent to live in caves on the outskirts of town until the reach the age of 25 years. I myself would of appreciated it. Happily, I have all girls. I have to say that when I make that last graduation it won't be just hers.

Hey Tomas,

Keep it coming, man. The next time I am in Memphis I will try to find my way up to your locality. Ashcroft normal? . . . Holy shit!

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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As if someone opened a can of worms in the United States and selected the worms they wanted while we all wiggled, shouted and tried to be free of the confining can. +

My daughter turned out pretty well. She seems to lead by example. The world flows toward her in a vibrant way. She is alive and well and the world sees it. She makes whatever she can or gets it a yard sale. She can live in whatever environment that she is in and does it well. People love to be around her.

The yound children around here are very conservative. They become nurses, Doctors, miners, hunters, teachers and lawyers. They all depart for greeners pastures elsewhere. The school system is old fashioned and strict. The people in their fifties and sixties see us ( mentally they were there) but everyone else does not. The world here sees the Bushes as liberal. Ashcroft is the norm here.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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OK..so I lied. Mark..take note of the young people in the actions. Listen. Maybe ask some questions and sound the water. What makes them step out there? I wonder what percentage of young people do you find there? One of the most profound and well informed pieces of writing I saw concerning the early WTO actions was by a young man probably in his early 20's. He may be the only one out there ofcourse.

When my girls were various ages those were the ages I was almost exclusively aware of. And you? And here's my sweeping generality...teenagers suck! Especially if you are their parent. I can't think a time I was more glad to get through without hanging mine by their thumbs.

On another note..heard on the news today Tony Blair is not getting the Mr Popular vote this week with his siding with the US. It made me think what a strangle hold this gov't has got here. How it can have become so powerful it is it's own monarchy. I'm glad you mentioned more actions coming up. Even if it does nothing to change things here (so far), it must add strength to other countries to know we are not all going along with the program.

In my ignorance I used to look at S Africa wondering how so many people could be ruled by so few. Now I know.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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Nic,

Good words. After all the frustration trying to make something or someone change, after crying and raging at what is going on till you can't bring it up any further, I feel like you. Just keep one foot in front of the other and do what you think is the right thing, make the example somehow. I am happy to see some protests beginning to resurface. I will be going.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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"Wound" (orig.from the guestbook)

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/mark6.html

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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Here in NYC have some young'uns really seem to be aware and working towards trying to help fix things...not sitting still for what ever is handed down to them...but I think you're right about the media assault and the mtv mindset of not having any patience...I WANT MY MTV AND NOT NOW BUT RIGHT NOW!They don't seem willing to do the footwork, instead just rebel about the situation by acting our with out thinking through...I can only hope in my insistant way, that the "infection" will get to the point of making the patient take care of it...or amputation. I still believe in spontaneous healing, but that can only happen when the heart and mind are there...worse case senario is the patient dies and I know rebirth comes with that.

what I really think is that none of it actually matters, it all has to do with how the individual deals with their particular immediate surroundings and time and space, and all will be revealed...just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and be a decent human being.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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Hammond,

I see some of that here in Aptos as well but there are kids who at least have a clue to some of this. At Planet Drum we have a steady flow of interns and volunteers who seem to have a curious bent. That may be the SF/Berkeley demographic showing though. Out in the media mainstream, the story is probably different. The barrage of head reaming media roll creators is never ending and I wonder how most can overcome. I don't think acid is really the answer any longer, culture has moved passed it and I don't think it has as much of an effect.

Thanks again for your inclusion of my words on the 3rd page.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 29 Sep 2003

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No clams allowed!

Wish I could say that the young people I meet these days are curious - but they are not - at least here in Portland they are environmentally friendly nulifidians who smoke dope and really haven't a clue about so much in this world that is immediately available to them - (ahem) with a little Digging. Part of growing up in the electron age I suppose.... if it isn't digital or anarchistic in nature they are not interested.....They need more acid I think - er.... stop the press.... maybe I need more acid.....

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Speaking of clamming up for a week that is exactly what I am up to. I am on a road trip starting tomorrow morning and returning sat. It's not really what I'm used to. We'll be staying in hotels and driving a new company car! My wife is reveiwing her territory for a new job in marketing. Fuji and Energiser area manager for Washington, Oregon and Montana. I get to tag along for driver duties and moral support. I'm looking forward to logging some miles and seeing the state of the union. I'll be sending your CD's along the way Nichole. They should ship by Tuesday at the latest. You all have a good week. Peace

Name: McMing
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Please don't clam up for a whole week, any of you regulars

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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There you go. Ha!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Hah!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Eileen,

I don't think that will be realistic....a week?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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OK I promise not to say one more word for a week.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: still chewing on this bone
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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LG. KIRK~Welcome to the fray!

No McMing..you didn't offend me. This is one problem with computer communication..you can not hear my voice, see me waving my arms around or wigglingly my eyebrows. (Ok I didn't wiggle my eyebrows.) Certainly nothing you said I haven't thought myself. As far kids are concerned, my internal thoughts, have sounded way too much like "The youth are going to hell in a handbasket" adults of our youth. And as an adult now, looking back at us, I would be frothing at the mouth! And it is THAT, which has made me look more deeply at the kids and at myself. How's this one...

Yesterday at a large rummage sale I overheard some young women talking about a really nice old sweater with raveled cuff edges, trying to figure out how to hide them. I suggested covering them with satin blanket edge binding. I saw the "satin" part light her imagination..and proceeded to find out she had no idea what I was talking about. I almost said,are you kidding?!! But saw in her face she was not, and explained, knowing she had never, or would ever, walk into the few fabric stores left. Would you beieve this momentaily pained me deeply, recoginizing the fast food consciousness we are speaking of? And yes, it suddenly made me feel old, recognizing all that ran through my mind. Part of what made me follow the young women in the grocery store that day..they had made their beautiful clothes that made them so outstanding. Do you realize how rare a sight that is, and what huge a loss I feel in that?

I watched the physcial effect on people when computers first were being brought into the work place. A man using it for billing, was twitching in response to the speed at which he was working..it even changed the rhythm of his speech patterning. I thought then, uh oh, this is not good.

To cut to the chase..things change with every generation. Things are lost, and equally, I must keep my eyes open to what things are gained..I have to assume that flow. We are as much a part of it, if we are not hole up somewhere, not willing or able to communicate adequately to step into the stream. If the knowledge, which now becomes that of the generation (us) behind the next (them), have hard gained can not find a voice, can not so to speak, change partners smoothly in the dance (from Fox Trot to Cha Cha), then the information will be lost to someone else to do the work, as we fall behind mumbling to each other. It is my belief that anything of True Value/Core Value (for instance, people are more valuable than "stuff") will find a language and as always will be sought and heard.

And yes, very much yes, McMing, I agree with ALL you have said. As well, I believe as our gov't and white bread religion are becoming so abhorent, the line is clearly being drawn in the sand, more clearly than ever before. It's destruction is a matter of time, as those that stand on the opposite side gather in number..witness the 3rd World countries stepping out of the last WTO discussions. I do not think these changes will come by peacefully or easily or without our partispation...but I MUST believe they will come or I would be disheartened into inaction.

I am currently rereading A Distant Mirror just to give me a little more to stew on.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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McMing were I to follow the tradition I inherited (Catholic) I would be endlessly genuflecting to a god I feel no affinity towards and a relegion that leaves me cold and yet still sends a message of comfort to my inner child, like a security blanket that has long since lost it's purpose. However You do bring up some good points and I need to read more Lao-Tzu

Name: McMing
EmailAddress:
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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You make good points, Eileen. Let me say, I cannot blame the young for what we, the older generation, have failed to give them. The young people I do know (I have a 19-yr old stepson) are not so different from how we were .. and I like 'em fine. They have a lot of curiosity & open-mindedness .. an idealism I wish I could still muster. But looking at the larger picture, it seems like America has become a 'fast-food nation' in many significant ways. It doesn't seem to matter what ingredients went into the meal, or which lands or people suffered to put it there, as long as the portions are large, cheap, & appear in a hurry. A soul-less materialism without any sense of history ... Oh, and on the other hand -- another brand of know-nothingism, the frighteningly Apocalyptic fundamentalist Christianity that infects all levels up to the top of government. Those fools would like to bring about the Last Days so that the saved (ie themselves) will be caught up in the Rapture .. while the sinners (ie everyone else) is ravaged by the miseries of a crumbling Earth .. a foul & dangerous fantasy.

When I referred to tradition, well you're right, we have all lived for many lifetimes. So your biological parents' ways might not be naturally your own. We are complex beings, an earlier incarnation might be most your own. Still, an existing tradition (way of life, philosophy, vision of wisdom) is something to be discovered -- not invented. It is received, and has its own integrity which ought to approached with some humility. Or can we outdo the sages of the past ? .. I think this is what Baba was recommending, to keep to our own, what is in our blood. The old ballads of the British Isles still give me chills in my spine, tho' I never lived there & don't know why. Similarly Lao-Tzu reads like a remembered dream from just a few days ago. Each person probably has a different heritage .. I didn't mean to come across so dogmatic & would like to apologize if I offended you.

& yes, at least in my case, it was the acid that sent me down the path of enquiry, trying to understand the mysteries, a journey which has not ended. -- from a spirit in the material world

Name: LG. KIRK
EmailAddress: ONNIAR.AOL.COM
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Sometimes...it is interesting to move through the moment just to be moving. This eve, I was rereading HSTs mad invective-self-reflective Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I got to the end of 8.,..."We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave...,...and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark-that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." I put the book down. I thought to myself "well fuck it, you've done it again...you've forgotten a first rule of fun and games...'it's not all fun and games'. Not in the mood for defeat, I came downstairs and fired up Maggie...intending to talk a short walk...end of story. Sometimes you eat, sometimes you get eaten...but I guess that's cool too...cause it all ends up organic. Stay loose, have peace, & thanks for the "site"

Name: LG. KIRK
EmailAddress: ONNIAR.AOL.COM
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Sometimes...it is interesting to move through the moment just to be moving. This eve, I was rereading HSTs mad invective-self-reflective Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I got to the end of 8.,..."We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave...,...and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark-that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." I put the book down. I thought to myself "well fuck it, you've done it again...you've forgotten a first rule of fun and games...'it's not all fun and games'. Not in the mood for defeat, I came downstairs and fired up Maggie...intending to talk a short walk...end of story. Sometimes you eat, sometimes you get eaten...but I guess that's cool too...cause it all ends up organic. Stay loose, have peace, & thanks for the "site"

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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This is really a nice link.

http://www.pleasureparade.com/

Check it out.

Thanks Gilda

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 28 Sep 2003

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Lou Gottlieb - A Tribute to Lou

Learn About Lou Gottlieb

http://bellsouthpwp.net/t/o/tomas42064/GOTTLIEB.HTM

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Mark..it sounds like you're due a trip north. Let us sit and talk. It's your turn.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Gilda~How nice to have a new face here! Welcome. And thank you endlessly for that info. I will try it out tomorrow. I can barely get anything done any more because of the pop ups. As far as your friend goes, I will pass the word out to someone who may know more. Things are generally slow here on the weekends, so let's wait until a few more folks show back up here this wk. This sounds like someone somebody around our loop will know of.

Mr Cranky Pants..You're kidding. "The tradition you inherited?" Which incarnation? Scot, English, French, German, Goddess worshiper, earthwitch, Southern Methodist, Buddhist, I Ching reader, Native American follower and much more. And you McMing, a lover of Meher Baba, who smiles at me from a poster on my wall? It all melts down through me and percolates up and becomes one. How am I to seperate them out and why would I pick only one when I am so rich with all? I tried and and it felt something like being asked to love only one of my children.

And speaking of children. No they are not all or uninformed or uneducated. They are not all lost or unseeking. Talk to them. Seek them out before you assume such sweeping generality. Or we become no better than the generation of adults we almost turned our backs on. The children are our future and we have done nothing of any matter if we do not recognize them.

In reality we (and I speak as a white person) came to this country with traditons that are still based on fear and killing and oppressive religions. If it hadn't been for acid, what are the chances we would have been much better? Tradition? Tell me honestly..what would that be?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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P.S. Tomorrow night, Sunday, Martin Scorcese's documentary on the history of the Blues begins on PBS. It goes for six or seven nights.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Ming,

Fuckin' ayh, man. Your perspective distills.

Hammond,

I will send the changes you need tomorrow in the method you asked. Thanks for giving me some inspiration.

Name: Gilda model/ spam/ For Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Eileen on the spam issue the worm that has been plaguing us for the last few weeks has I think 5 different subjects the best way is to create a folder / filter for eacxh heading and have them go directly there then it does not get mixed up in your good mail. Again you can write to me if you want help and i will give you my # to call and walk you through the process I will be happy to help anyone as long as they agree to pass the favor on and help others on the board. It is not difficult but it can be confusing if you do not yet have experience you are i hope running nortons or another virus checker. That is seprate from the spyware issue.

Gilda... you can also write to me at sasha_cuffs@yahoo.com I check that email often while i am working. The pacificanet i check once daily during the week .

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Eileen,

Wrastling, not wrestling, the demons.....we who have some years accumulate these things. Survival seems to hinge on how to deal with them. Here is my take on it.

Demons

(Ocean Beach at Lincoln Blvd.)

You led me over deep cold water, dismantled and ready.

Stood me swollen with anger on a long night highway, saving nothing for forgiveness or the morning.

Floated at my ear, whispering “Remember . . .”

Your coal black feathers fluttered and flicked, teasing and accusing.

You circled paying out blame, stoking forgotten embers.

On today’s white capped morning, on the swept up breezes.

Over the seawall’s ledges, scooping and feigning.

Vaunting and bragging, pretending something special.

Banking and diving, balanced stopped on fast wind.

I feed you old French fries, laughing at your antics.

Seeing your obsidian eyes, hard and free.

Today I sit on the fender, alone again with you.

Listening to your silken tar wings like rustling tuxedos.

Name: Gilda model/ Internal POPUPs/ For Eileen
EmailAddress: gilda@pacificanet.net  - www.pleasureparade,com
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Pop ups are a so annoying but here i can help you . often the pop ups that seem to come from no where are small text files that companies download. There are many good free solutions that you run on like a virus scanner. i run several because I have an isp and we have many websites some with adult content so I was not only plagued with the popups that companies like yahoo amazon download but also endless popups that you can barely escape.

It is a good idea to run this software often for other reasons as well they can track your activities tell other companies what you have bought or even if you have applied for a loan. Most are low risk but some are quite envasive take up system resources and slow your computer down. I do don't have a big issue with privacy but unfortunately the tracking devices are becoming sophisticated but on the flip side there is always a creative techie who is the champion of the people.

This software is free you can upgrade and it is nice to do if you can afford it because it supports their efforts. http://lavasoft.element5.com/software/adaware/ down load the free version to try it out run it a couple of times and you will be free of those nasty popups. I am delighted to help if you need help please write and reference to board and i will give you my number and I can walk you through it.

I will give one little warning there are many sites that say they remove spyware and they are spyware themselves it is easy to check out if you type the name of the software in google and nothing comes uo except that site stay away , and take the time to read a couple of links if a multitude come up and see what people are saying. you can also trust this site any software it offers is well reviewed. http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=506

I am certainly not trying to scare anyone and I ignore the advice of my programmers constantly myself but this will make your life easier.

Have a good one I am glad I saw your post. I am building a new startup company and do not have much time to play but I was hoping perhaps someone knew where Herb Jaeger was ... I have tried all the conventional methods like phone books to no avail. But I am sure it is just a matter of time...

Have a good one all and thank you for commenting on my post Eileen I felt a bit silly because it was my first post after I sent it . I am such a mush but I ams what I ams and I will just keep peppering the world with love and keep being mushy it has worked for me so far... and it gives my kids something to tease me about...

Name: McMing
EmailAddress: the merciless
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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aaah .. I feel so old & mean .. but to me [at 51] the past is passed & no point in looking back anymore {even if sometimes I can't help it} .. my only guru is Meher Baba, and there are many published writings although the Avatar is no longer with us .. part of what he said was, stay with the tradition that you inherited .. be it Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, whatever .. not to start a new tradition - but like the Sufi's, don't be bound by any external forms. Unfortunately, the young of this time seem to have NO tradition, old or new, to hold to or revolt against. Just nothing. Just video/cyber/bullshit media reality .. not even Nihilism or the ambiguities of philosophy. A hedonist outlook if it can be characterized in any way .. try asking the next passing teenager what Hedonism means & wait a year or two for the response, if there is one. I can't live in this realm, don't have to.

With Lao-Tzu & others, cloud-hidden, with the most excellent tea -- blue

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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oops did that withour my glasses..can you tell?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Thanks Hammond~ It's my home computer that's the worst and I use Posti. Actually I guess it's not span but the pop up adds have gotten think as flies. I use both hotmail and outlook. I probably should call my server and see if they can tell me what to do.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Thanks Eileen - and PS spam - if you are using a library computer and your e-mail is being spammed - suggest you go to the server's site - e.g. hotmail.com if this is the one they use. You can probably hook into their filter - but bear in mind that these sorts of e-mail acct's / servers are used by the bulk of spammers who send out the spam in the first place! Go figure - but anyway the server will have some sort of filter for your e-mail acct. Good luck......

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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BTW Sweet William had been let out of the hospital by the time I called yesterday afternoon. I have no further way of reaching him and we will have to wait for Nicoles report.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Mark - WriteOn! - (The 3rd Page will get back to you nxt. week)

Eileen - if it is your home computer being spammed check out postini.com - I use it and it is very effective....(PS - great reply to a great poem)

Jag - Thanks for the Dolphin ride!

Steve - ????? ??? ???? ??? ??? ? (RSVP)

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Do I need to appoligize for that use of bandwidth?..shows what 1/2 beer and an off the wagon smoke will do. I meant it but didn't really need to say it again.

The deck really should be considered flash cards and is no joke. A Christening. What a wonderful day this will be for you!

No Gilda I don't know this man and thanks for the great memory shared. I bet someone here will know him.

Oh Steve we miss you!

Name: gilda
EmailAddress: gilda@pacificanet.net
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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In response to James R. Davis post about the Blue Unicorn. A chronology that turned into a musing...

My memories of my days and nights at the Blue Unicorn are vivid and rich . However I was quite young, although I spent a good deal of time there between the ages of 16 thru 18 and I was still very focused on how the world affected me so my memories are very personal and I do not think I can fill in the chronology very well.

I am trying to locate Herb Jaeger who I last spent time with about 5 years ago if anyone is in touch with Herb I would appreciate if you let him know. Herb I believe took over the unicorn in late 1996. He is a wonderful man, a teacher, mentor, musician, friend and lover. We were friends before he met Anne so I know he owned the Blue Unicorn prior to 1997. Our friendship continued through the years even though our lives took us on very different paths. I married 4 years later and had the good fortune to have shared a wonderful and rich life with Moe then a music producer until he died suddenly 4 years ago.

The Blue Unicorn was a place where you could get a cup of coffee and brown bread and butter for free if you were hungry and in need. The conversation was always flowing and something was always going on much of which may be best to keep off a public forum. Folk Music, open mikes, poetry, politics, the Sunday morning motorcycle ride to Point Reyes were all part of the rich culture. Everyone was welcome, there was an unspoken code of consideration to others that was understood and created a rich atmosphere.

I was young 16 (1966 ) when I first walked in to the Blue Unicorn and I felt at the time I had found a home. My Big Brother owned an antique store in North Beach called The Attic, I had spent hours and hours in City Lights Books Store writing poetry since I was about 12 and hanging out at Enricos watching people and sipping coffee. It was so nice to be surrounded by poets, musicians and philosophy at last without being known as Johnnies little sister; the culture was younger, hipper and more exciting than my old haunts.

Herb was a patient man who lived his life with amazing integrity. He was not co-dependent but he was also willing to help and support friends and his customers at the Blue Unicorn. He even talked a man out of mugging him and took him out to breakfast instead. He would answer my questions with thoughtfulness and sensitivity and never made me feel awkward or gauche although I am sure I was. I recall one day we were crossing the street and he asked me if I would like to move in with him. In all my young wisdom still suffering from catholic guilt I remember saying "What and not be married?" To which he burst out laughing and hugged me so tightly easing by embarrassment. He then went on to explain there was certainly no shame in sharing your life with a person without being married. Considering we were lovers it was a peculiar and a rather funny comment on my part, not an easy one to help someone come out of without feeling very foolish, but Herb had that gift.

That was part of what made the Blue Unicorn and my early times in the Haight such a wonderful place. The culture was generally accepting, "one wayism" and judgment which can become a strong part of the culture in groups that spend a great deal of time together, was not nurtured in The Blue Unicorn, respect for humanity was. My experiences at the Unicorn shaped my life and the lives of others in many, many ways. It was a springboard for artists, poets and musicians, inspiration, idealism, generosity of spirit, hope and passion filled the place.

I do not recall the exact nights events occurred but there was open-mike on one night and poetry on Wednesdays. I drifted away to new adventures when I was put on the guest list at the Avalon Ball Room, I was at the concerts 3 days a week, dancing , listening to incredible music. I met Moe there and entered a new phase in Marin County and I was not around when the Unicorn was sold. I do know Herb shared the profits with all his long-term employees.

I would love to connect with some of the people from the Unicorn please feel free to write, There was Mike a school teacher and friend of Herb's, Forrest and so many names that escape me. So many people who probably have no idea that they are gifts I have carried through-out my life. Thank you.

Name: patrick
EmailAddress: mydecisionismaybe
Date: 27 Sep 2003

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Hi everyone, Have yoy checked out the "BUSH REGIME CARD DECK"? The French put it together. Really nailed it. Its at www.reseauvoltaire.net. I expect Steve to surface soon. Its coming up on the first of the month and if they are reluctant to let him out of detox he will probably leave against medical advice and be back with us. I miss him. I'm off my grandaughters christening today.Then having the extended family members over for drinks and food. Peace, Patman

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

Comments

On a much more mudane note..I am being spammed to death here. Can anyone tell me how to block this?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 27 Sep 2003

Comments

Ah Mark, so beautiful. Thank you for sharing this with us. Rant on my friend. What better place where there are friends to receive. This is the rare avenue for me as well to say what offen can not be said.

In response to your prior post. Thank you for your understanding. There is something like a dream that comes back to me that I cannot catch. Each generation has a need to discover itself anew. This computer age our children are growing up with is running fast ahead of us..ahead of them. Life becomes a mental exersize rather than a true experience. I sometimes find myself becoming confused between fact and fiction. Did I dream it or did I read it somewhere online? How much more confusing for those growing up within it looking for meaning. Remember the saying, "Kill your TV's"? Now the computer becomes a doorway to escape either in or out of reality. Experiencing riding a biycycle only on computer games or an information avenue broadening idea exchange beyond state and country boundary lines. Music and political action becoming more and more the gathering place.

I picked up 3 hitch hickers a few wks past, fresh young people running the coast from Washington, south..having recently come from a huge gathering in Tenn., Two night and days with something like 9 stages making Reggae on the River or a Grateful Dead concert seem small..pan handling all the way, with no planned destination. On my journey home on that marathon rush to the sea,I met a few buses of Rainbow people as I passed thru Utah on the way to a gathering. I stopped and talked to them. Their presense for me a temptation to follow. And the other day I saw 3 strikingly beautiful strong young women in the grocery store that pulled me back instantly to the 60's..obviously not from this town. I watched them briefly, with a yearing of a time past..thinking "I am/was one of you."

I share this with you thinking of your 15 yr old. These young people gave me hope for the future, knowing by the innocent strength in them, they represent many more that carry the torch. And there is a communication carried by computer and those on the road, that is bringing many together in a way before never imagined. Looking for something and something is being created, that is no longer seperated by age, time or place. It is staggering to consider.

I believe in the basic human spirit that yearns for Truth..and companionship, that looks for meaning within that. And there are the hucksters, political and in the market place that have become more and more geared up looking for a profit, looking to feed off of what can be used any way possible. Hasn't it always been so? The yin and the yang. The Light and the Dark. But the choices always remain the same..is there Light or not? What is the Frame of Reference we reflect to our/the children?

This is what makes me go on my own Walk About with my daughter, when the Path becomes less clear. I don't think we can afford to rest on our laurals thinking we have already done The Work..as if some great Ah Ha was IT. Sometimes a refresher course is called for for. And for me that way is by putting my body on the line. The Native American's believe that is all we have to offer that is ours, to the Universe, to Creator, as our exchange for Beauty..for Truth..for our prayer for peace. Peace of mind, peace of heart, peace on our planet.

I believe it is up to us to keep the flame burning so our children can find the road Home a little easier. I have compalined early on, when I first came on this site, of the mistake I felt we made in the 60's. To carry an ideal we were not bringing home, as we busied ourselves with political ideals..looking outward. I like to think that mistake has been corrected. I guess I was wrong when I said to Nicole I did not know what being a "spiritual warrior" meant. I rest my case.

Mark, I don't know the deamons you struggle with. But your heart shines bright and I know you will find your way.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

A really beautiful vibe Mark.

Name: Mark Hebard
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Sorry for the excess today, I have been in a funk for a month or so and I am trying to defibrillate myself.

Wound

Your hair swam through my hands slipping.

A fragrance rose.

Open.

Like never before.

New trails of undreamed comfort,

walked naked for the day.

Fresh body taut with pleasure,

lay head back in thick darkness.

Touch.

Push.

Curl.

All senses extended.

Rushed toward the end of more,

filling deep hungry memories.

Each dry brittle pore,

Taking every drop.

More than given,

each secret beat pulled away.

felt and eaten,

Never enough to stop.

Tossing.

Fleeing.

Holding.

All methods commanded.

Toyed by excess,

dismissed by selfishness.

Left,

with pieces.

Your misted dream lifted,

stretched and split away.

Shiny clear light,

awakened the horizon.

I fought and twisted,

surrounding like fog.

Shaking fear and violence,

dancing jagged steps of grief.

Your road was open.

Away.

Brutality was last.

Shame slid over like a fever.

Time was taken,

to make my changes.

Humility’s core opened

to the light.

I remember your swimming hair,

A fragrance rose.

Open.

Like never before.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Nic - Eileen - So sorry to hear the news on Sweet William - please keep 'us' up to date - hoping - praying wheel spins for the best....

Bole Nath Ki Jai

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Eileen, check yr e-mail...sent the info

leaving the office now...later all.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Eileen,

"The point at which your mind is your enemy, full of doubt and fear, yet still having to go forward." Tim Leary made a career of diving off that cliff, was famous for saying "oh, why not?" Inside/outside...what voice is true? I have to say that much of that fear and doubt in me is learned, (external) responses which can be good but also completely stagnating or even corrosive. Rolling the psychic dice was an adventurous endeavor in the counter culture wars but these days we are so deluged with dialogue and images it is difficult to tell where the line is. This has been called the "dumbing down" of the culture through media, keeping the attention span short. Fear rises more steeply now as the noose has tightened dramatically around cultural alternatives. Eileen, your piece reminds me of something realized years ago doing substance abuse counseling. I had a life before drugs and alcohol and could remember it if I wanted too. I had a reference point to seek out and a sense of joy when it began to resurface, thinking I could never experience life that way again. But, when a soul has grown up from childhood never knowing sobriety or peaceful existence it is impossible to touch it. Getting that person to the side of the "box" meant an enormous individual leap of faith. That example illustrates a parallel problem today, given the raging media storms rolling through our youngest generation, for profit of course, the idea of a walkabout, road trip, or solitary journey of some kind to facilitate the existential crisis and hopefully a resolution, or a better term, the evolution of the two opposing minds morphing into a new cycle of self just ain't part of the scheme. The self voice is being muted. Life scripts are being handed out in huge numbers everywhere you turn. Hundreds of Barbie and Ken dolls of every capitalist whim and cloned mutated Leave to Beavers crowding the brains waves everywhere. Just pick one and get on with it, if you don't like it just grab another. You folks may recognize that I am currently a father of a 15 year old in this rant. When you scale this problem up to the level of say Bush Vs whoever he picks on next, Islam Vs Christianity or white European culture against the rest, it is a little boggling to think of the eventual final scenarios.

People who continually strive to think outside like Peter Berg become harder to hear in a time like this, they become "difficult" and "cranky." I think we are seeing a throwback to the post Depression/WWII mindset which revered safety, comfort, and conformity. Moving out to the "edge" and risking a jump off the collective bus is losing it's relevance to a population being cattle prodded behind the fence. Whew...I feel a little unburdened now, thank you for your patience in these matters. I really must finish the damn laundry.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

CounterPunched (again)

"Unsaftey in Numbers"

http://www.counterpunch.org/poems09262003.html

+ Stew Albert's "Or Consequences"

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

OH my gosh Nicole! Thanks for word on him. Will try to reach him when I get home. (I'm at school and must get back to work.) Could you email me the number and his room? Think he's up for a call?

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Today is Sweet Williams bd and he's in the hospital, St Lukes. I just got off the phone with him...he had a very close encounter with the other side...please include him in your thoughts...He's such a marvelous man.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

basically, tho a few days late, happy Autumn Eqinox...

all of us Sept & Oct 50 + folks should check the old almanacs...I bet it was an extra cold Jan & Feb that decade...and tv was so new...it went off at 10:00, our parents knew how to stay warm...

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Told ya the Diggers were Libra rich! Lou and Coyote share same birthday?! Wonder if all Oct 10th folks are larger than life? I have this theory about early in Oct Libras..they are all pretty spectacular and very To The Front. And Sweet William? There's another one, as well, Jane Lapiner and I share the same day.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Tomas, yes, Amen to your beautiful, true words.

Jag tell your wife happy birthday!!

Today I stepped out of one of the little boxes anyways, the "we're broke we never buy CDs anymore" box. I got Warren Zevon's The Wind. This is very beautiful music, a sad wind blowing through it, and gusts of humor. How beautiful that he made this album and how beautiful that his friends saw him through it. I am thankful, and I hope not morbid, for things like this album, and The Osbournes telling it like it is about middle-age and illness (they are dead-strange and they are dead-on, and funny too). When I look at my husband in those quiet moments when we're not in some everyday box, and I know I could never get enough of him if we lived to be ancient, I sometimes have these flashes of doubt. We've both got hep C. Will we both manage to beat this, will we have as much time together as we hope? Did we burn that bridge years before we ever met? And yet our pasts were the only way to get from there to here. Like Tomas says, I would do it again in a minute. Peace

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

It is my wife's birthday today, Libra all the way.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

uum and it is when the mind snaps, the Universe can vacumm out our "knowing" and be re-aligned with the knowing of our body..making as Steve says..our skin home ie Homeskin. A bent mind is just a bent mind.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

ps Bergs birthday is October 1st

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

PS Nicole..it is the doubt I am talking about. Yes trust in ones self and in the Universe makes large steps possible..having no real clue of our ignorance. When the time comes when one realizes what was easy to be created in the mind has actually put ones life on the line and there is no easy escape, no turning back..That's when the mental wheat from the chaff starts getting seperated out and it is not fun.

Yes I have also had that moment when I knew the next choice I made could make me air born or enlightened forever. No, this is about REALLY realizing mis-steps could kill you and you are at maximum and it is not enough. The point at which your mind is your enemy, full of doubt and fear, yet still having to go forward. This is not romantic, it is devastating. Which in the end is the point. This is fear and a reality that becomes more and more harsh until your mind either snaps or bends. The only grace as well as anguish being, you know this has not been done TO you.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

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3rd Page Release:

The Family Dog Presents

"The Hep Cats Ball"

a Benefit for Allen Cohen (SF Oracle)

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/hepcat.html

Name: r
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Lou Gottlieb is also Oct. 10.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

oh yeah, berg has a birthday coming up too. ant more libras out there?

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

The new Homeland Security Bill has passed. Things will be different now. Internet surfing will be tracked by the FBI with a non-intrusive method. The FBI says you will not notice anything different. For a demonstration - Click on the link below...

http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/

HAd a dream last night I gave my laptop to the new Digger/Treat St house. (boy I miss that!) Watched how friends simply coming together of like mind become a home..and by motion, an action. I think the gift of the computer was so I would shut up, so I was glad to see I hadn't been tossed out this morning with the rubbish.

Yes Tomas! You said it.

Ok Rena you hit my limit! No jellyfish pond. Pee. I'll keep that in mind. Wish I was there.

Floating Nicole..happy beginning of your Birthday!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Tomas - amen .......

Nic - can we start celebrating your birthday now?

Yippie!

Happy Birthday Nicole!!!!!!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Reading todays posts had a profound effect on me...Eileen, Tomas, mark, Ohio girl and well everyone...at first while reading yours Eileen I got a real feeling in my gut of stepping out over a ledge, with total trust. It's that leap of faith...and knowing that when you do make that leap everything comes together...but there can be no doubt. When Jeramiah was small I was pushing him up an extrememly steep hill in a stroller when I realized it was effortless. At that moment I knew if I jumped up I could tread air...not fly but levitate the was I do in my dreams, but I couldn't do it because I was afraid that when I did it would freak me out...no regrets really, but I should have done it.

and Tomas, your description of us all was perfect.

I truely feel all of you. With extreme warm regards, Nicole

Shana Tova to those of you who observe the jewish holidays.

Eileen, I'm October 4th and Peter is October 10th

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

We have all stepped very far out of the box. This is one reason we write to this website. We are not the normal in the eyes of the so-called normal. We stepped way out into the trip of a lifetime in our youth. We have seen more pain and pleasure than the average bear. Our highs have gone into places that others have tried to write about. People have loved us for being who we are and people have hated us for being who we are. We have followed a very different path. We are very vocal and we tell it like it is. Most of us have been around for about fifty years and it has been a trip. We are just like every other human being on this planet that has struggled to stay alive. But those other eyes see us as being a little far out of place or peculiar. We are in the process of writing that book every time we respond to this website. Some of us have the money to maintain other websites about our exploits. Those lists go on and on and on. I get very emotional when I read about love that last forever. I have tasted that love and it is grand. We all have paid a dear price for following this path. I would do it again in a minute.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

First a post about stepping outside of the box. Next I find myself in jellyfish lake. Wow!

Name: Palau is
EmailAddress: in Micronesia
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

Where is Steve? We hope you are grooving!

Name: maui mermaid
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

went to Palau with a famous and great marine biologist. snorkeling in the most amazing locations. thousands more kinds of fish than Maui, and Maui snorkeling is magnificent.

one day we hiked ( a group of 8 or 9) to Jellyfish Lake. this lake is isoalted, the porous rocks that encase it allow the tides to repleish fres ocean water to this ocean pool. the jellyfish in this lake do not sting. they don't need to becasue there are no preditors. There were 2 kinds of jelly fish in the most abundance imaginable. it was like swimming in Jellyfish wall paper. i have photos of me in that lake, covered in jelly fish of assorted sizes, some quite large. (10 inches in diameter.) the smaller jellyfish pulsate at a more rapid rate, those tiny ones realy are zippy pulsars.

after we explored the jelly fish and few gentle fish in jellyfish lake we climbed to shore. We had to be careful not to touch the mangrove trees because their bark and sap are toxic like poison ivy. these trees had black sap.

once ashore the marine biologist let us know that a well fed crocadile lives in the lake. She didn't want to alarm us. She knew it was safe because the croc eats jellies, and with no other preditors, the water is filled with these gorgous animals. , like oatmeal with a zillion raisens...

Name: Maui Girl
EmailAddress: OM
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

I got jellyfished today. swiming in the beautiful ocean in the process of a feel god half mile swim, zap yikes outch. could feel some stinging out deep on the south end of the bay..

My first dlliemna was to cover up in my one piece leotard/swim suit, realizing that the Tentacles Could be in the suit which was at my hips. i decided i better take that risk and cover up since Kam I is a very public and busy beach.

Luckily my suit was safe. I did get a 2 foot long lash rash from a very long tentacle. on my inner thigh is where i felt it the most.

swam to shore.

showered with cold water

applied the pee that made the pain recede.

at home i called poson control on the first call they said NO PISS!!!

i left the piss on because it was working

i tried to call 3 marine biologists but all gone.

a science teacher found a worthless book ...alcohol is excrutionatingly painful to jellyfish stings and yet it suggested it. i tried it once long ago and never again. and, she added, go to the hospital if respiratory distress.

i didn't have respiratroy distress.

I called the Emergency Room. I said I'd been jellyfished.

I was immediately told Pee On It.

I thanked them.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 26 Sep 2003

Comments

I need to rant tonight.

Just ate a book I couldn't put down..From Alice to Ocean. Excerpted from Robyn Davidson's, Tracks. (now have to hunt down Tracks!) Fantastic pictures and inspiring read. Young woman took 4 camels across the Outback (Austrailian desert) on her own, on an 8 month treck. Sold National Geo her story in order to buy her supplies..which required from her, very begrudgingly to accept a photographer to track her occasionally. It was a life changing experience that made anything I have ever done look simple by comparison. Yet the craziness and struggle that ensued very familiar.

I was able to move along with her and her intension. That pull of putting it all on the line. Sensing there is so much more to know of ones self, that the "familiar" hides from us. It is something I have never found the words to explain in the many travels I have taken, to my satisfaction. I found relief in this book if for nothing more than she had the words. She even talked about her two opposing minds, just as I had to come to terms with, and the crisis and turning point, as on my own journey, was there. I have not been able to think of what I did, or my other travels, as a "trip".

The Native Americans have ways of doing this in Sun Dance and in ceremony. I expect that is what a Walk About is for as well. Is this perhaps what makes some men go to war? It seems to me the most pathetic way we reach for this, at best, is through therapy. I think it is a restlessness of the soul when we have no way, have found no healthy way, to answer those opposing voices of society and spirit, that divide us internally. And it is not something that can be found with just mental exercises. We are physical creatures and there is just too much emphasis on safe mental gymnastics for answers.

Peter Berg used to talk about "stepping outside the box". He was speaking of this in politial/social terms. Yet I think that statement has further implications..further possibilities. Isn't there something in all of us that yearns to really step into the Unknown? Test ourselves, that becomes muffled if not deadened ,if we can not dare or find a way, to do this?

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Laudable sentiment FYI, censorship begins at home. Redneck, while vile and reprehensible has some weird shit to get off his chest.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: Spam-I-Am
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Yeah I can see that, I guess people have got to be free to turn themselves into spam. Oh well, Peace

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Thanks for all the strokes but the next on the list..Nicole you and Peter C both have birthdays coming up and I always get them mixed up. Want to tell?

Free umm I don't recall "free" had limits to free ass kicking either. Red Neck I think you are just too deep and mysterious for the likes of us, so it's be really cool if you'd find somewhere else. Or is everyone finding you too profound to relate to?

 

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Somewhat regrettable reminder that open means "open" - free means "free" and nothing less or more. Without the voices of mugu, Biloxi, Sazza and the Phen-Phen people we might wonder who we really are - nonetheless - Biloxi - why not just go "Fuck Off!"

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Nic,

I haven't from James and Co. Berg said they had headed for Big Sur after discovering the clutch problem was actually low power steering fluid. The offer is still good here though. Did you check on SSBoyd?

Adipex, try crack if you want to lose it fast.

RNPMissisippi, You need to leave the house more. Darkness comes in many forms.

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomas@laurelrose.com
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Tic, tic, tic

What is the point in making your point so traumatic? Our blood flows rather swiftly after a painful accident. What is the point in showing us this lesson? It is nice to know that you see the world. But what is the purpose of the shock treatment? I remember yanking a chair out from under a young girl in my fourth grade class. I thought it was such a laugh. The world is made of holes and I stand at the bottom with.... You'll have a good day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Name: Orion
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

If everyone is tired enough of the Red Baby Poet, I wouldn't mind if the System Administrator here consign those particular electrons to the dust bin of history.

Name: RED NECK POET BILOXI
EmailAddress: jed_wainwright@hotmail.com
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Nicole

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY POEM - DO YOU ?

ARE YOU SO BLIND YOU CAN'T SEE

READ IT AGAIN

LIVE THE MOMENT

CONCEPTUALISE

OPEN YOUR EYES

SEE YOU SEEING ME

DARE TO BARE BEFORE THE SIGHTED

STRIPPERS ARE NO GOOD IN THE DARK

 

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

"Who The Hell is Stew Albert?"

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/stewbook.html

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

what a mean spirited thing to say...but really the one thing I have come to know as absolute truth is...you most definately get what you give...there is a saying "what you wish to experience provide for another" You got some fun comin' your way jack...although as far as I can see you are already BLIND...poor baby. My higher self says, " I'm hoping for your "vision" to improve and for your sour grapes to sweeten" however, my lower self says..."Fuck off idiot"

Name: RED NECK POET BILOXI
EmailAddress: jed_wainwright@hotmail.com
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

I LIKE BLIND PEOPLE

I LIKE WALKING BEHIND THEM

SNEAKING UP AND WISPERING

FUCK OFF

I LIKE BLIND PEOPLE

IN AN EMPTY PARK

TO SNEAK UP

AND KICK THEIR ASSES

I LIKE BLIND PEOPLE

SNEAK UP AND SPIT

ON THEIR BURGER

I LIKE BLIND PEOPLE

PUT A CHAIR IN THEIR PATH

SWAP THEIR BABIES AROUND

DRESS THEM IN CLOTHES THAT YELL

FUCK OFF

I DO SO LIKE BLIND PEOPLE

SUCH GOOD SPORTS

Name: just a regular guy
EmailAddress: boring@normal.com
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

well Adipex, it's tough for me to get out of my specially-built LaZ-Boy, since I weigh well over 500 pounds. But it's motorized like a giant wheel chair so I generally don't need to .. to properly appreciate this website I usually drop about 10 hits of LSD, one or two E's, gulp down a bottle of Robitussin mixed with a 5th of Pernod. Then a pipe or two of loveboat, a Vicodin and 5-6 NoDoz .. and maaaann, I start to feel alright !!

Of course usually I don't indulge like that more than once or twice a day. I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my TV game shows.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Eileen's Page (revisited) in case the other link is malfunctioning - if so cut/paste the url into your browser - it works!

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/eileen.html

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Thu. Oct. 2 8 pm The Truth About Medical Marijuana in SF

Presented by the Independent Policy Forum, featuring Ed Rosenthal, Dr. Donald Abrams, Robert J. MacCoun, and Edwin Dobb

Where: Hotel Nikko, 222 Mason Street (at O'Farrell), San Francisco

 

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

I especially enjoy visiting here after ingesting copious amounts of Benzendrine and washing it down with a gallon of Jolt cola, it makes for a relaxing afternoon and takes my mind off of my delusional fantasy's of grandeur.

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

Adipex - How stupid of you to drop in. Yes oh yes, we are all lame-ass obese diet-pill freaks with nothing but aimless time on our hands. Do you know of a Phentamine Amusement Park we can visit?

Name: Adipex
EmailAddress: slimmingpills@yahoo.com
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

So very glad I found this truly great site. I come here when I have just taken a weight loss diet pill to take my mind of my weight problem. Does any one else take prescription slimming pills? Mine are FDA approved to help obesity sufferers avoid associated health risks from being overweight.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

I wanna go...

Name: rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Sep 2003

Comments

it was only a glimpse, one short phone conversation. i look forward to meeting her.

in the meantime i've got my hands full with my 17 year old. karma.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Sep 2003

Comments

Rena~Wow, Ena a gentle spirit??? The island must have worked it's magic on her cause she has always been one fierce pristess. I was just being lazy posting my address after way too much time on the computer. I have you in my phone book but not your address. Thanks for all the info. If I were to sell on the islands I would make an entirely different line than I am doing right now..certainly not denim jackets do you think?. At some point I'll put some sundress prints together. Thanks for footwork offer..great! I WILL get there. And this time on my own! You have no mercy with your descriptions. Shawn just sent me pictures from there that would have me packing if I hadn't just come off the road from the trip from hell. No, I've committed myself to school for awhile and getting my art/work under way.

Name: rena
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Sep 2003

Comments

Eileen,

Ena also said we should meet. it will happen. She is a gentle spirit.

Paia has lots and lots of shops. Also, I have friends who support themselves through the Maui Swap Meet on Saturday mornings. It's hard work. I'll get in touch with my friend Melissa who sells beauiful batiks she designs and has produced in Bali. She just came back from the Rainbow Festival. If you send me a couple of samples, or even photos, I 'll show them to shopowners and try to find places for you to sell them. I'll e mail you my home address (I'm not as brave as you) in cause you don't have it.

Lahaina is pretty much tourist crap now a days. But, Paia and Makawao have some really cool shops. happy to do some footwork for you.

some stores only sell made on Maui so you may have to come here and create. You are welcome here: There's a larre cottage on our place that is for teens and guests. If I have lots of guests, they can sleep on decks or in tents, and use the cottage as a communal kitchen. If it's just you and your entourage, can use the cottage wholly. Either way, you could sew and socialize and have a place to sleap with the gentle trade winds and the palm trees shading your hammock. So, maybe you will make another journey to lava lava land.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Sep 2003

Comments

The Family Dog Presents - The HepCats Ball - A Benefit for Allen Cohen of The San Francisco Oracle

Who ? - Phil Lesh and The Hep Kats, Ram Dass Don't Push The Clown - Lights by Randy Merten & Very Special Guests

Where? - The Great American Music Hall - 859 O'Farrell Street - San Francisco

When: Wednesday, October 29, 2003

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Thanks Hammond. Folks used to say a persons 4oth tends to be an unfortunate event. I did see a few friends not quite ok with that one for sure. "They" (those other people that say things) obviously never turned 60!

Name: The 3rd Page
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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"3 Piece Suit" (click image)

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/suited.html

Name: Hammond
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Eileen - Happy Birthday on your Birthday!

Name: Eileen
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Rena~I keep meaning to ask you..are there still stores there selling hand painted clothing in Lahina? Not the great Bali dye and batic, but more local work? I'm wondering if I could sell my clothing there (hey I'm almost local)? Do they have open market days or stores that do stuff on consignment? Maui was my original inspiration for this work and would love to turn it back there.

Name: Jag
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Got it Hammond see you then

Name: Jag
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Got it Hammond see you then

Name: Jag
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Nichole I've got most of your CD's burnt only a few left. I am kinda pressed on time but will finnish in the next couple of days and get them off asap.

Name: Hammond
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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JAG - Great - and you can come earlier if you like - my conference has been moved to 10am - so see you at 2 or whenever you get here. Please bring my vhs copy of Elisian Fields - oh and Nic's tape. Thanks mate..... treats if you have them.... :-)

Name: Eileen
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Kids at school with computer time. Loosers. Get your work done.

Rena~Ah! you are pulling my heart strings. I will get there when I can but my extra money is going out the door now, as I'm helping my 24 yr old with her first real move into town. Now I have to actually get serious about my lastest dyeing and printing project to put some travel money aside. I'm glad you made contact with Ena. That's so cool. I hope you two get a chance to meet. I think you may find a kinship.

Yeah I wonder where Steve is too. Finally freed from the computer for awhile. Can hardly wait for the reports to start coming in.

Name: Nik
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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I'll go by west 4th this afternnon and see if I can get any news on Steve.

 

Name: Jag
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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I hear that Ohio Girl, this place is attracting some diet pill hucksters from hell.

Hammond, I will head your way around 2:10 this afternoon. Let me know if any thing changes, if not then I'm looking forward to seeing ya.

Name: Ohio girl
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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What a joke, after all this hep C treatment I weigh less than it says on my driver's license for the first time in my entire life. Who needs all this diet pills crap, wow, my stomach isn't good enough to tolerate "spam" these days. To be serious I've been hoping Steve is doing OK.

Name: Diet Pills
EmailAddress: dietsslimmingpills@hotmail.com
Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Wow, this is a great web site. Do you sell diet pills though? I am so glad I found it, thank you. I will let my buddies (Bontril, Meridia and Xenical) know and drop back again soon.

Regards

Didrex

Name: Mark
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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What is Steve's status now? Has he left NYC for Maine? Anyone heard from him off list?

Name: R N A
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Date: 24 Sep 2003

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/wiggins5.html How to Stay OUT of the Military. very helpful info. pass it on to freinds and family facing mandatory registration. a draft could be looming, cause no one his right mind would sign up for unending tours of duty in Iraq, the sitting duck brigrade.

Name: rena
EmailAddress: glowing friend
Date: 24 Sep 2003

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Eileen, spoke with Ena tonight. She sounds so akamai, mellow and wise. She lives above Makawao, in Olinda, too bueatiful to describe. please come here in person to check it out.

her phone is with the 7. I gave her your e mail and your snail mail addresses.

She is delighted to hear from you. and, yes, she does make glass jewelry out of lava.

 

 

 

Name: Eileen
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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nO Fentermine there's no dang potatoe growers here. You can stop now.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Mark~Yeah it must be the weather.or maybe there's some fishing season opening up. It was superior for a few days and now we're doing the usual payback with fog so heavy it's like rain. Suits my mood today. Glad I only turn 60 once! I wasn't kidding when I said I'm not counting after this. I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT 80 LOOKS LIKE! Just stay in touch on that one. Will be great to visit.

Name: Mark
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Eileen,

Happy Birthday from Elaine and me. I am trying to work out an accessible hotel in Mendo in the next month or two so we can get some of that good air and food for a weekend retreat. The area is still heavily booked up. We can get together for something then.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Thanks Jag..you gave it a head start!

Name: Eileen
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Rena..back to you.

Thanks Ohio Girl. I'm kind of stunned to celebrate 60. I think I'd like to stop counting now. I'm having such splits in reality lately (I'd prefer to think them as mystical energy shifts), not keeping track of my age any longer may not be too hard.

Nicole..it really was the lack of glasses or a Sr moment. I'll be daring and post it here..33300 Pacific Way, Ft Bragg, 95437.

Name: Ohio girl
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Happy Birthday Eileen! That isn't age, it's coolness, very hip!

Name: Nik
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Rena, the minute I get it you'll get it a minute later!!!

Eileen, I think perhaps when you said you didn't have your glasses on the other morning you missed that I, Nicole, wanted your us post address...I have somethings I want to send you...can't e-mail it...if you prefer not, I understand...let me know.

Name: Rena
EmailAddress: aloha
Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Hi Eileen, I emailed you my particulars...

Spent the night by a waterfall pool last night. heavenly.

Nic, am looking forward to getting a copy of your cd.

Name: Jag
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Date: 23 Sep 2003

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Happy Birthday day Eileen, I hope it is a great one :)

Name: Jag
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Just watched a George Carlin special and have to say for all his profanity and bombast he is one satirical character. He verbally pummels the microphone and is fearless in his attacks on cherished icons, attitudes and the insane protestations of any one with out a sense of self deprecating humor. He is a national treasure.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Joy~Same to you my dear! Thanks for the reminder and good wishes for the changing season. May everyone's harvest be bountiful!!

Name: Joy Andis
EmailAddress: delphina8@earthlink.net
Date: 22 Sep 2003

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A very happy and deep autumnal equinox to you all. May Demeters gifts in the bountiful earth nurish you into the dark of the dreamtime. Blessings:)

Name: Jag
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Done Hammond

Name: Nik
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Thanks Jag, I wish I had the whole lot of it...I'll have to break down and buy a copy on line...I think only Fallin was on the Album...

Name: Hammond
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Jag - Bring the cd with you !

Name: Jag
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Wow Nichole, I'm listening to the CD as I type, very polished, the orchestration is amazing. Your voice is beautiful and smooth, I love it!!

Name: Jag
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Gotcha Hammond, 2:30ish is great,

No problem Nichole :)

Name: PS
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Don't I sound like the bigwig teleconfering boho - yes!

Name: Hammond
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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JAG - Great - looking forward, but make it a little closer to 2:30. I should be done with my tele-confer with NY by 2 but just to be sure - Thanks. We will follow our noses from there....

Name: Nicole
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Jag, tens perfect...yr the best.

Name: Jag
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Nichole, mail just came and so did the CD! I will treat it like glass. How many copies do you need? How does ten sound? More? Less? let me know

Hammond, 2:00 sounds good. I'll let you know when I leave here, its only a fifteen minute drive. Looking forward

Name: Hammond
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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JAG - Are we still on for Wed? If so - after 2pm is good for me

Name: Jag
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Nichole, just woke up, no CD yet but my mail doesn't come for a few hours and I'll let you know as soon as it does. I bet it comes today.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Rena~ the other address is hotmail..I don't have my glasses or my brain on yet this morning. aloha

Name: Eileen
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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rwna..I don't have your email filed. mine is samileen@mcn.org. Or which I pick up when I;m at school with the same heading.

Yes Nicole this is turning into an rather interesting BDAy time.

off to school now

Name: Nik
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Eileen, would you e me your postal address, I want to send you something.

Name: Nicole
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Date: 22 Sep 2003

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I saw M & A precisely because of the bad reviews...I saw it at the Angelika and I was only one of about 12 people in the theater...which to me was such a shame...because the people that did go to see it, understand it...those that should see it won't...sort of like preaching to the choir...I found it moving and powerfull and recomend it to all...

That was a fantastic review Hammond.

Jag did you recieve the cd?

Eileen...HBTY

Name: rena
EmailAddress: Makawao
Date: 22 Sep 2003

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Hi Eileen, I'll be in Makawao tomorrow to pick up Oshy and take her surfing after school. I don't know your friend Ena, but you can e mail me her phone# or whatever contact you have and I'll deliver your aloha.

My daughter's school is one mile above Makawao. Makawao is a small area with lots of cool people. It's gorgeous there, upcountry Maui.

Little beach was grand today. Hope you get here before too long. with aloha, R N A

Name: The 3rd Page
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Date: 21 Sep 2003

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"Bed Collars" (click series)

http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/bedcollars.html

Name: FYI - Service
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Date: 21 Sep 2003

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from today's Daily Mirror

DESPERATE SADDAM OFFERS AMERICANS DEAL

  SADDAM Hussein has been in secret negotiations with US forces in Iraq for the past nine days, we can reveal.

The Iraqi dictator is demanding safe passage to the former Soviet republic of Belarus. In exchange, he has vowed to provide information on weapons of mass destruction and disclose bank accounts where he siphoned off tens of millions of dollars in plundered cash.

President Bush is being kept abreast of the extraordinary talks by his National Security advisor Condoleezza Rice. She is co-ordinating negotiations in Baghdad which are led by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the commander of American forces in Iraq.

The United States has vowed never to negotiate with Saddam and want to take him dead or alive, but the White House hopes the clandestine talks will allow them to pinpoint the tyrant's exact location.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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hello friends..just curious..what's you home page?

Rena..have you met Ena (Tahalou..what kind of name is that?)? This is not a woman you would forget if you met. I was told her address is in Makawao. I thought she was on the Big Island but isn't this in Maui? Just occured to me you two may know each other. A sister I would like to get back in touch with.

Name: FYI - Opinion Search
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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Would you have voted to go to war?

I would have voted to go to war -

I mean - no,

I would probably have voted against it.

and come to think,

I would never have voted for the war,

that decision turned out to be a major blunder

and

I have always been consistent about that

O.K

I would have voted for the war at the time,

but now I'm against it.

besides,

I would NEVER have voted for the war.

Well, I may have voted for it at the time

but now I'm against it.

How am I doing in the polls?

© 2003 - Rt. Gen. Wesley Clark (in search of an opinion)

Name: FYI - Service
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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"How to Stay Out of the Military"

Everything a teenager needs to know.

An Excellent Resource (pass this along)

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/wiggins5.html

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 20 Sep 2003

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FYI..yes total body replacement HA! I think that's the inevitable direction.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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Steve~We wait.

Name: Eileen
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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Hammond..yes good review..very intense! Political poetry equally fine and intense. Too bad for politicos we are no longer seperated by local newspapers and TV. Makes it a tad harder for business as usual. Thanks for the additions.

Name: www.reddINK.com
EmailAddress: theautomann@msn.com
Date: 20 Sep 2003

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Nice site... however, I'm not too concerned with this world and what people think of me. They'll perish, too. Besides, much more important realities await thee. Both God and I want you in the Great Beyond. How do you get there? Belief in the Trinity and frequent confession; We know you can make it if you follow our guidelines in this Finite Existence. Sign the Guest Book, too. God Bless You.

Name: PS - Hammond
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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Here is a great review of Dylan's new film written by a friend of mine here in Portland.... (CounterPunched)

http://www.counterpunch.org/vest09202003.html

Name: Hammond
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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CounterPunched (Weekend Edition)

"Insights Unsound"

http://www.counterpunch.org/poems09202003.html

Name: FYI - Service
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Date: 20 Sep 2003

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Total Body Replacement will be next on the plastic surgery front.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Sep 2003

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You guys are dear. Acid. That's it! I need more acid. Have a great wkend friends. Mine's starting off really wacked out. Hey never a dull moment. The good part I'm really enjoying the beginning of my weaving class and think about all the cultures of men and women that through the ages have done this. One could even think it odd I'm going to a class in it if you think of it's history. I keep waiting for the past life Ah Hah..I've done this before.

But can we talk here just a minute more about aging? Has anyone noticed the stuff that's in the fashion magazines these days about aging and how to prevent looking older, starting at practically 14 with injections of really questionable stuff, face and body lifts and stuff that kind of makes you wonder how come anyone hassels anyone about alternative medicine when they're doing all this dangerous and cutting and pasting and icky stuff? Does this strike any