The Digger Archives Guestbook 2003

These are the Guestbook Entries from 2004. Please visit the current Guestbook if you would like to leave your own comments. We also have a Discussion Forum where there are threaded topics.

The most recent entries are at the top of this listing.

NOTE: this file contains the entries from February, 2004, and later comments added after we migrated to the New Discussion Forum software.

Name: Nailcakes
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Apr 2004

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If you want to rag me for telling the truth so be it. It changes nothing. I wasn't draging anyone anywhere they are where they were meant to be and did what they did. I did what I did because I was young and stupid and still trying to live it down in my own heart I was only sixteen.. I grew up. I realized what was real and what could and couldn't be changed. People look for lost one any where they can, if they care. I don't want kids to see only the fantasy of what we wanted things to be like. You have to tell both side to get the whole pix. What The Emmetts started to do was wonderful, but the drugs distroyed them and the dream. I'm not any sort of religouse fanatic to mention GOD. Sorry if that offends you. This is an open forum and kids can come in here and think it's cool to take hard drugs. I took every kind of durg there was back then and yes I did sirvive it. But not without the battle scars.. My mind is expanded as I care for it to get on drugs. I don't want my grdkids taking them. DO YOU?? Be honest. I mean no harm. I would just like to see the whole truth. I was with The Good Earth Commune from 70 to 73'. They had good ones and bad ones just like everywhere else. I admitt to the wrongs I have done in my youth. I'm not against any Digger. They fed me and clothed me and a lot of people. You can idealize the cause, but to idolize a man. It's bigger than that.Then just a man. No man is perfect on this earthly plane. No one man can claim the prize. You can call me names if you like. That and a dollar may get you a cup of coffee. But the truth is what it is and there is no excaping it. EVER. It will come out in the end. So why not just tell the whole truth in the beginning and then no one will have to tell it and get yelled at for doing so. If it has to be hidden and it infuriates you to hear it maybe your worshipness is misplaced. Is that what it was all about? Lying, deciving, and misleading people. Is that what we were trying to say to world. You tell me then. What was it all for. Apperantly we learned nothing. Look in the faces of your grandchildern and then decide. If your too young for grandchildern you won't know what I'm talking about anyway. If you see no good in my words I must have missed my mark with you. I was not a hippy I was a flower child and I WAS looking for GOD and the truth. Well I guess I have found out this truth. What are ya'll looking for. I mean really. I guess I'm on a different frequency. I still get high and belive that love is the most important thing there is. If I'm wrong then we are all doomed. Peace.. If this is a Godless community then I will never be part of it. Where do you get your love from? I really wonder. I feel sorrow for you all if you have no faith. Are we all one or just a chosen few.. sounds like what we were fighing against. What are the diggers doing now. you took the catbird seat. Who are you helping? everyone or just your click. If I asked to much by being, I can't apologise for that. Sorry for using your space to look for my lost tribe. They were not junkies either. That was not allowed in the commune. I got of that way before I joined the Good Earth. And I can't shove anything up my a$$ because my roids r out. Peace.. Nailcakes. P.S. I never mentioned any of Emmetts faults in my book.I gave him credit for the wonderful things he did do. It was the idea the intent.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: ya' got my number
Date: 09 Apr 2004

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Nailbake: do I read ya' right? Ya' come here beggin' the Diggers to connect ya' with some old junkies that ya' use to pan-handle with; then, ya' turn around and speak Ill of the dead by dragging a founding fathers' nuts through the dirt. What Are you smokin' these days? (and why??). DIGGERS FOREVER FOREVER DIGGERS. P.S. What commune were you in bed with?... Mormons or Penticostals??? Oh, by the way, ya' might not get to far in this neck of the woods by name-dropping the G-O-D word. Remember: WE CREATED OURSELVES. (God love us)...

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 09 Apr 2004

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Hey Nailflakes: jot my E Mail Address down and then cram it up yer' hippy ass. EMMITT HOLDS WHAT EMMITT HELD. (Glad you got out alive.) Id' stay out if I were you. But Im' not you. So WELCOME to the table. Brace yer'self. P.S. OOPPPSSS!!!... ah... just a case of "P.C. Rage". Sorry Mark, sorry Berg.

Name: Nailcakes
EmailAddress: shameless_heifer@yahoo.com
Date: 09 Apr 2004

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I don't mean to stir any chit. But if your going to tell it like it was, then tell it like it really was, there are young eyes out there. If your gonna talk about woodstock or whatever and how beautiful it was there. YOU WEREN'T THERE. It was horrible a disaster. When ones speak of the beauty in the Haight. They weren't talking Merry Paranksters. Maybe the media just focused on radical behavior. I don't know. But as the ones that lived there in it, a different window was peered into. When power is intrusted to one human. That human becomes corrupt and uses that power unwisely, or for his on advantage. It happened to all that sirvived it. Leary was on the right track but was tempted by the flesh of young women, as was the Emmetts. They cut themselves off from the source and became all ego. They were lost to the garden. I hope you don't mind my thoughts. I am wrighting a manuscript on my EXPERIENCES in the Haight, a birds eye view of the real Haight St. in 66 -68 and a later book on my life in a commune of 500 hippies in 70-73'. If I offend anyone I will stop posting. Peace. Nailcakes

Name: Nailcakes
EmailAddress: shameless_heifer@yahoo.com
Date: 09 Apr 2004

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Mark: thank you for the cut n paste job. That was a good act,you have Love in you.. I tought I had registered tho. humm. I had just written a long post and I didn't see it posted again I hope it makes it in. I spent a lot of brain cells on it.. Maybe it's just me (too many miks of Owsley's in my youth). I hope you don't mind my posts. But I do hope you think about them. I don't know all the questions but I do know LOVE is the answer. I maybe just an ole granny but I lived the hard way, through experience and the hard knocks along the way. I took what I learned and am using it now. I waisted many preceiouse years shooting drugs in my arms. Thank you Emmett.. I recovered and changed my life for the good of mankind.At least try to help. I'm not a fanatic or anything I still smoke GOD's medicine. Peace. Nailcakes

Name: Nailcakes
EmailAddress: shameless_heifer@yahoo.com
Date: 09 Apr 2004

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G'mornin', I have been reading the post here and there about the Diggers. You say you have visited The Haight and have pix,that you hung with the big dogs, so to speak. and you want to carry on and honour him like he was the second comming of Christ. did you really know this man. If you had a young daughter would you want her to be with a man like Grogan or a prankster. Do you really think it's cool to stick needles in sixteen year olds girls arms and pump them full of heroin and then pass them around in the name of free love. To tear down the government is unrealistic. The whole world would collapse. If your are looking for the Truth, then tell the Truth. You glorify a man that wanted to cause distruction upon mankind. I would not want a man like Grogan to represent me or my points of view. You say he changed or started a movement.I say he gave the movement a black eye. Emmett was not a kind and loving person. He had no power to heal the sick or to change the hearts of men. He had no respect for anything or anybody. He did not talk of GOD or teach the childern to Pray. He taught them to hate and distroy what they didn't agree with. But isn't that what America based on. Freedom to live life in a constructive positive way, Peacefully in harmony with nature. This man was a hypocreit and a theif. He prayed upon the innocents of youth and corrupted souls with poison. All in the name of what. What did he have to replace it with, a long line in front of his place to hand out rags and left overs. Hand out hard drugs to kids and freak them out. The Gov. cannot be changed by a mear man. It would take an act of GOD to change things. It would have to be done over a matter of time. Our childern and their childern will be the ones to change things. TEACH YOUR CHILDERN WELL. Teach them love and respect of one another. Teach them that DRUGS KILL. Teach them that if man has tampered with it, it is poison. Teach them to grow their own and to stay with what GOD provides and respect the Earth Sky and Oceans. Teach them diginty and humility. Teach them in a positive way to be positive. Shine THE LIGHT on the darkness. Help your neighbor and harm on one. The old War Mongers will be bred out of mankind, but it will take more than one generation span to make it happen. I see kids doing hard drugs everyday. I see young girls in Jr. High giving oral sex and say it's the same as kissing.I see gangs killing and raping.Taking what they want by force so they can get more drugs. I see all our jobs and money going to illeagle alliens and over seas to help the big companys to save a few bucks, while our kids go on food stamps. What are WE teaching our Childern. It takes a village to raise a child. It's up to all of us to make sure our kids know the truth and change the way things are being done. Education is the answer and education starts at home. Dont let our kids become useless dregs on soceity. Mind blown by age of thirteen or our young girls sexulay worn out by sixteen. You may think me a traitor to the movement, but I lived the movement in The Haight, I was part of it and knew the Diggers, Ken Kesey, Peter Coyote and the Pranksters. I was there long after Grogan O.D.'d. It wasnt Grogan that carried on, he was just riding the train and jumped off in the middle. He was not driving the train. I am not bragging about what I have done, I'm just trying to say that Grogan did harm not good and then bailed out. The ones that were left had to clean up his mess and live with ( or down ) what he did or rather how he did it. All I'm looking for is the TRUTH. I was sixteen when I hit the Haight and on n off till I was twentysix. I saw the Good the Bad and the Ugly of the Haight. I saw the people pull together and clean up the Haight and work with the community to rebuild instead of tear down. I belive Grogans and I do mean plural, were detramental to the Peace Movement. I don't want to live in a world where the people are all so dope phucked they can't write their own names. I do belive that we are free to choose to partake in what ever GOD has provided us with. I don't belive in taking man made durgs made by spaced out junkies or corrupt drug companys. Our spirits can't take it. We become zombies and just want for more drugs to excape. Excape freom what? Ourselves as we poison our mind, body and souls. Is that getting back to the garden, is that what you want our grandchild to face growning up. I see kids on here looking for ACID.. Well there is no LSD-25 any more. What they sell as LSD is rat poison. I would kill a mo' fuk er who gave my kids or grdkids rat poison. WAKE UP and smell the CRANK. What are the kids looking for. Do they take drugs to open their mind, to find GOD and the TRUTH. or just to get fuk'ed up and freak out. Is that what we want our country to be. You kids can never bring back the sixties, never, it's gone and done. It was the times it was GOD/Creator who called us out to be counted. We stood up and were counted. We were told to teach our childern well. Did we. Did you. Were we all so mind blown we didn't hear HIM calling to us to LOVE one another and to stop fighting. It was the drugs that got in the way, that sealed our ears from hearing, blinded our eyes from seeing and covered our mouths from speaking the Truth. We were truly caught in the devil's bargan and were tossed out of Eden conciousness and into Babal conciousness. Babal was distroyed and their tribe demolished. The Truth still carries on to this day. But not with drug induced physoco-babble. But with clear thought and Faith in one's self. I leave you with this thought. Who is to blame for the way our kids think. Who is it that really sets the example. We have to have some sort of order or we're all gonna get robbed,raped and killed. We have to have Government to take care of the details and we need supervision. I would be afraid to see what would happen if there was no athority. That's all I can say right now only my OP. Peace . Nailcakes

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Apr 2004

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Nailcakes, I cut and pasted your message to the new Digger Guestbook. You're likley to find some contacts. Here is the link to the current discussion list, you will need to register to make posts but you can read the messages without doing it. http://www.diggers.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34

Name: Nailcakes
EmailAddress: shamelessheifer@yahoo.com
Date: 07 Apr 2004

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Thank You for this cool place to leave messages. I have looked far and wide for anyone from the Good Earth Commune 70 to 72 and have yet to find anyone. Steven Stacy (spacy stacy) Mama Kitten, Leo Ron. Shills and Diane, Count and Barbra, Jimmy Painter,Aries Ron,Mora, Mouse Man,Cass,Whitney and Gloria Kellogg,Jimmy Jang Jang. Too many to name. Where are you all. Peace Love and Hippy Beads.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Mar 2004

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Hey Travis, I was wondering when you would come around this way. It ain't all that bad. Click on this link and when the new page appears click on the arrow pointing down next to the box with the words "show the oldest post first(default)". Then click on the the line in the drop down menu that says "show the newest post first" and the latest posts will come up in the way they have here. If you want to post a reply you need to register but only a self-created user name and password are the requirements. Leave a message here if you need some help. http://www.diggers.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27

Name: curious is as curious does
EmailAddress: the Alamo
Date: 24 Mar 2004

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I hadn't heard about all the changes--but, when did the digger forum seek to become all three branches of the government rolled into one--with no appeal process--in flagrant disregard of the right to due process--Gee, peel away the tarbaby to find the Hippie Homeland Security Act. Surely Eileen, you must have other concerns about these changes than just their increasingly complex proceedures...................Travis.....UAW/MF

Name: Dodi
EmailAddress: blackbear06@peoplepc.com
Date: 23 Mar 2004

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Just happened to run into this website and started checking into it. I used to work with a guy in Indiana that I think was part of this original group, and wondering if anyone knows of him or his whereabouts. We got along well and I'd like to know how he's doing. He told the greatest stories. His name was Andy Morris. He told me he knew Jack K. personally, was even in "On the Road" but under a pseudonym that he wouldn't tell me. Had stories about Rita Mae Brown and being in NYC in someone's apartment near the Park and it blew up due to the harboring of some explosives. He hid underground for awhile. Lived in the Haight-Ashbury area for awhile. Had a girlfriend named Sonny, don't know if he still does. And great friend named Jerry in NYC. Don't know if any of you know Andy, but if you do and are in touch, please tell him hello and I still think of him and hope he's okay. Thanks for giving me a place to ask. Keep up the good work, let's just make sure we educate the children, because they won't remember.

Name: Zigamus the Grape
EmailAddress: razbution48@yahoo.com
Date: 21 Mar 2004

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Going to San Fran & N leaving in march 24 to big sur writing a book if you want to be part of book and poss. Movie leave a mess on e mail and I will check eveyday peace bros was and is isis 4 ever also ifif, oh by the way the book is take the long way home, this is book 3 of tri from Leary to ? is there more of them out there ? check back Im sure there is more to come

Name: rokkit
EmailAddress: electronicdowsin@aol.com
Date: 19 Mar 2004

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strangers cumn'go. stuopidicHeadeater. tyey put a cult snuff-film on normaltvland, and danexpectassetofert. ywhiidaonne get breath of life, lest corruption consume their"meek-easse luvin' sols, burnt low by pathetic lusts, faith based initiatives, Indeed. Planetfalls-Church oF Spirited Carbon, john iverson{rokkit,realklie]DBA tracts of philosophy and eacramental items. Creeating a line of herbal inhalation accessories and handicapped smoakin aeds. I haven't yet figgured-out a cuure fer ignerance, guess yu cin lump mee in wid' da niggers, cuz theyzwey moer reelern'yu, less you see yer opionszwy'iidu.hed focker,staymeekn'incinceer scuze 2tiim. manmekmeemadd,ciao

Name: rokkit
EmailAddress: electronicdowsin@aol.com
Date: 19 Mar 2004

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Name: Maflo Miratore
EmailAddress: MassiveItalianCock@touchme.net
Date: 15 Mar 2004

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Hey man, one time i was digging in the great grains of the pug region of pubics. That's where i first encountered my first honey bear. He was full of bright giggle and shrp whit. But i took him down like a stripper on state fair corn dogs and crystal meth. So i took one look at him and knew he hadn't come form the patch of courn i was looking for. So i threw baks from where from i gots him and said, "yonder be the most beautiful bride these eyes ever beholded." And i married her without a second thought. These days that takes some serious commitment. To know that you'll never look back and always wash the disshes if you abosultely have to. And now we've reached my frist point about dishes. They're often dirty and they're somtimes clean. What i usually like to cook with my dishes is bread with kidney and noodles. i keep my noodles on the side and my women in the sack. Four times i played roll over with this one youngun that had twice the cove of an elephant mistress. by the end of the fourth, i was 1 layer short of a skinned rhino. Imagine how that feels in the morning following three shots of bourban and about 27 cakes of danderfluff. Well, the kitchen is cooking and the knocker's a knockin' so i better answer before they have me on the wall of that 10 cent grocery store! Check out them taters! Astas. www.HisforHat.com

Name: Alexa
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Mar 2004

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what I want to know is what happened...socially, politically and economically? where are we all... we all saw this coming, tried to prevent it and here is is... Thanks Mark. Its a beautiful site. Clyde shoulda sd: faahuck!

Name: Tom Diaz
EmailAddress: tomlaureld@yahoo.com
Date: 12 Mar 2004

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I had some of the most unrememberable times of my young life at Morningstar. Seriously I only have flashes of memory for those times. But I am so delighted I was there whenever it was and took part in all of it, including events in the city. But what happened? Where did we all go and who did we all become? Anybody know? We are here at the Most Posts. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mostposts/ Write to me at: tomlaureld@yahoo.com or at: morningstar@laurelrose.com there are about 50 or more in this group that were there for a couple of week to years and years. There are even more who know about the group that will not sign up. It has always been different strokes for us so our minds move in every way. Some of us are well off and some of us are just scraping. There is a bond and a vibe that cannot leave this mind of man Peace Tomas

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2004

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Alexa, here you go. Everything is there. http://bellsouthpwp.net/t/o/tomas42064/BUTTON2.HTM Also I would point you to the new list for the Diggers Discussion list which is active. Use the address in the blue message above.

Name: Alexa
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Mar 2004

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I had some of the most unrememberable times of my young life at Morningstar. Seriously I only have flashes of memory for those times. But I am so delighted I was there whenever it was and took part in all of it, including events in the city. But what happened? Where did we all go and who did we all become? Anybody know?

Name: Barbara Eldridge
EmailAddress: beldridge@urbanengineers.net
Date: 10 Mar 2004

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when my son Robert Alexander Goddard told me that he planned to visit Black Bear Commune i had visions of a religious cult and him drinking koolaide. After reading about this place i am a lot happier. i hope that he can help build some of the structures needed and help garden. anyone who meets the "riddler" please feel free to e-mail me and let me hear about him-i have not seen my son in about 3 years.

Name: mark grigsby
EmailAddress: mark3492001@yahoo.com
Date: 09 Mar 2004

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were can we see the bus me and my wife are comeing this july and would like to see it thank you

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2004

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Clyde, Why don't you pull your head out of.....on second thought, leave it up your ass. Probably the best place for it.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Mar 2004

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Clyde, you should have said, what the fuck, y'all a bunch of $%#&*#? that would have been the correct way...you moron.

Name: chris
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Mar 2004

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i dont think clyde understands the human rights statement and this guy calling everyone a bunch of dirty names needs his ass kicked

Name: Clyde
EmailAddress: theheadslayer@lol.com
Date: 06 Mar 2004

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www.diggers.org? what the F@#%~? yall a bunch of Niggers! This site looks like nigger work to me & should be shut down.

Name: HOBOFILL
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Mar 2004

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on the bum again in 71 sixties sic with it sisters rescued mein standin in line soup an pan bettern piss be leavin stood up greivin: on the run again in 65 who shall feed the children?..

Name: S.S. II
EmailAddress: The Prince
Date: 25 Feb 2004

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Well yer' WAY ahead o' me...( I didnt get ANY of it.)... I dont' think??..ahh.. but Im' goin' on memory, as I dont plan on readin' it twice. I was being hospitable. Seems Ive' played the Welcoming Committy before. See ya' on the other side.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 25 Feb 2004

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Steve, I wondered if you would lurk around here after the big move. You know this guy? Rokkit, I got every thing but the word "onctuponde". I am still working on that one.

Name: Silent Steve II
EmailAddress: "Hair " to the Throne
Date: 25 Feb 2004

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Hey Jonny Rockette: Thats' easy for you too say. You seem to be at home in the cosmos. Ahhh... WELCOME!

Name: john iverson,aka 'the rokkit '
EmailAddress: siverson@snet.
Date: 25 Feb 2004

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i call mesel' meny ting,toodae, but none so touched as "the probationary memba"[to meownmind,o'corze. remember shorty, the thalidomide baby?, n'rudy, me pal onctuponde streat,wher i left the family. ustatek me tree dazzys to pass the paper upta haight... free produce from the old van, flats in seesun, damn good,mems.mostly. went lost away,away, but i'm saved, yoheelieahlulu!!Talked fonish to irving, my soul boos, oh yea, yermorndat, 'tis time to pass muster, me, 'nstan for the new age to back the present from it's obvious outcomes, sos the business born latey, but "mimneyo", i calletyh merely "planetfalls-church of spirited carbon",john iverson, dba. connecticut says fictionsfiner with 5 dollars,registered to "sell"and distribute tracts of philosophyn'sacramental tools, most importantly my johnny rokkit, the century's best sanitary infusor oh yeah, o yey for the sake of herbal infusion airweigh lightening by combustion diffusion no gimmicks, no wires....s'ill fly twards truth, n' calleruth. spirited carbon are we not spirited carbon but a part mind not the knowleg ofapeace. rokkit 866 399 4800 ther r'oots deeper than yer pocket money give a stranger some

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 24 Feb 2004

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John, Grogan was co-founder of the San Francisco Diggers. Probably the best thing to do is to go to the headings at the top of this page and put your cursor on "History". A drop down menu will appear from which you can click on different aspects of the Diggers. This is an extensive site with much to look at and read. Use the url http://www.diggers.org/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3 above to go to the current discussion page. Hope that helps.

Name: John
EmailAddress: nemec@myexcel.com
Date: 24 Feb 2004

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I have a book titled "RINGOLEVIO" (I think the spelling is correct). I've probably read this book at least a dozen times with each time getting more out of it. To the best of my recollection-this probably gives a pretty accurate description of life, attitudes, and general patern of life in and around the '60's. The term "Diggers" was used in the book. The book was done through one person's eyes-I think it was Kenny Wisdom/aka Emmett Grogan. I spent a little time in the Bay area doing my thing with the USN, and some of the things I read about in the book was reality. Perhaps someone in your org has read this book and could shed some insight into what is true and what is imagined.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 19 Feb 2004

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Eileen, please try it again...now that I've adjusted to the change, I like it better. it has some really fun features too. but in case you don't want to I'll check here for you. ps did you ever hear the cd?

EmailAddress: Eric
Date: 18 Feb 2004

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Eileen, I left a reply on the new Guestbook forum asking for everyone to look at the Syzygy site and comment on it. Sorry you're finding the new forum software complicated. If you go to the link below, it's got a listing for "The New Guestbook" topic. You'll see there are little icons for the pages of messages. You can jump to the last page directy. The messages, by default, are sorted oldest to newest. (There's a drop down list that will sort the way we're used to seeing them here, but it's not the perfect solution. I'm still trying to see if I can make the default the way we all are used to.) Here's the link: http://www.diggers.org/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3 After you're looking at the replies, to add a message, just click "Reply to Topic". Then your new message will appear at the bottom of the list. Hope this helps, Eric

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Feb 2004

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Eric~Hate to be such a pain in the butt about this..but your format and all for the new page really is much too complicated for me to use. You're going to loose me if you switch to that. Here is a site I have mentioned before that works the best of what I see you are trying to do. I strongly suggest you look into their set up. There web master is very receptive and I'm sure would help you if you ask. http://www.syzygyjob.com/

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 17 Feb 2004

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just waiting to hear from Eric...can't seem to get on the forum.

Name: r n a
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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Hi Eric! Congratualtions. Hope you and Joe are grooving. Hi Steve, I'm here. Took an all day workshop today to become a member of the Blue Water Defense Team, a watchtod group aligned with the Sierra Club, to document obscene water pollution by greedy developers and other unconscious souls. Some of Maui's foremost political activists were there. Yes, sunrises! Eric, I registered a few days ago on the new site, but apparently i forgot my password. or, was it my user name i forgot? I do like the one page format. Love to all.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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Nicole, (and anyone else having problems registering on the new forum) -- Send me a user name/password you'd like to use, and I'll sign you up if you can't get the registration to work for you. Send the info to yellobug at pacbell dot net. (No "w" in yellobug). Eric

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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So far I haven't been able to get in...rejecting my e-mail address as not being valid...and it is so I don't know what's up with that...and I've had some trouble with those forum things, because they aren't linear...if that's the right thing to call it. Too many options to open...and then I get lost...but I can learn...if I can get in there. Help?

Name: Steve again
EmailAddress: wow
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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EEERRRIIIICCC!!!! Hey, I just got the news from the other page about why everyone is congratulating you. It went over my head. I must be thick, because I didnt pick it up on this page. When did it come down?...Shit, thats terrific. Hey Dig this. The Methodists are so cool (some anyway).. at a local KC church they are NOT going to marry ANYONE. Ya' see, they say unless marriage is ALL-Enclusive, they will not deny ANY of their congregation in any way. Its ALL or Nothin'. Its a new age folks. Wake up and smell the ... well...smell..the... Lost my train of thought. Anyway, The Idea is to push through and make it State Law. My Lady Rev has been puttin' her ass on the line for years marrying anyone who has the notion. It's a PEOPLE thing. People get married. Whats the big deal? I like Marriage. Im' the marrying kind. Buuurrrp; hey honey, you wanna' get Eric and Joe another beer?

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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GROWING OLD DISGRACEFULLY: OK; Im' wearing suspenders and I have a hanky in my pocket. There!... (feel better??)... No shit, its a grandpa mode that I lapsed into. Go figure? Scary how it just happens overnight. Glad yer' up an' runnin' Ohio Girl. Hey Rena; you out there?..(or in there?...or around there?...)... say a few sylables. Hey Ohio Girl, check out yer' home-states' own "Cult of the phychic Fetus". Like I said; they were my pick at the Death Jam last year. It was last year right? Seems like it was in a Galaxy far far away. Ahh.. they may have a web site, I dont' know.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: Congratulations Eric
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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Eric, congratulations!! I've been following that story on CNN and it had me missing living in San Francisco's activism, where even sometimes the (LOCAL!!!) government does the right thing. And then how beautiful to hear that this benefitted you personally. What a happy Valentine's Day for sure. I'm off to my first day on day shift here very soon, but when I get home I'll try to figure out about logging in a new way. Is that for this guestbook here, or is this guestbook going to be transferred minus mugu???? Nicole thanks for the healing vibes and thoughts. I have seven weeks of treatment to go, alot of side effects wearing me down lately but at the same time, I feel how my underlying health has gotten good again, I feel virus-free. And according to the last viral blood test, I am virus-free. The trick is to stay that way, not relapse. I was given a (Christian) prayer, Lord, please complete the healing that was begun in me. I think you would know far better than me, the herb to plant for this. Thanks. Eileen thanks for saying my generally negative reaction to rap doesn't mean I am old!!!!! I do like some of it, and I liked some of the early stuff like Public Enemy. Jag and Mark, gansta jihad rap, yikes! Bring on the Stones or Donovan or something... Steve thanks for the laughter over the ex-wives. To everyone, Peace

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 16 Feb 2004

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Ok I try registering....click on the accept terms and it goes right back to the same page..I cant register.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: ahh...
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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Made it! Started ramblin' about stuff. Later all.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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Steve, You need to create your own password on the new site. First, go to the new site by clicking on the link that Eric put on this list. Then click "register" and follow the instructions for registering. The least you have to do is fill in the info in the boxes with the red asteriks beside them. You can use your first name as the user and make up a password for yourself then type these items in along with your email address, that is your address. Each time you go to the board you will need to "log in" with your user name and the password you made for yourself. If you have trouble come back here and I will watch for your post and help you through it.

Name: Steve Again
EmailAddress: one more time...
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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P.S. Im' in good company. My Lady Rev. was in Berkely back in 68. She's a 1950 baby. I cant hold a candle to her. Theres still a program down town that she spear-headed. It feeds 500 hungry folks a day. Not to shabby. Her works will surely follow her. (as surely as I do) Hubba-Hubba.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Inner Space
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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Checked out the new page but cant' log on, as I dont' know whats with the password thing. Im' on a Methodist Minister's computer and it's (her) password is a big mystery. (Is that the pass word that you require? If so; no dice. but can check it ot from time to time and enter in-put (or out-put) on this page. Well, the china cabinet should be done in a couple of days and so should I. Then, Its on to greener pastures. (sure wish she had some more un-painted furniture).. Playing house here is a dream that Id' rather not wake up from. Thats life. May be back here one o' these ol' days if things fall into place. I wonder how New York City has gotten alone without me?...Oh; Nik, speaking of NYC, did you see me on the 6:00 News a couple weeks ago? It was a piece that (Channel 4 I think) did on the "Homeless) of NYC. I didnt' catch it but last time that I swung into the Peace Church a gal said that she had. Anyway, we were all made to spend an extra hour freezing our nuts off outside of McAuleys (It's new name is the NYC Mens Shelter) in order for the crew to set up. Jerry McAuley started it after he got out of prison in the 1800's. Real History. They may have a web site. Anyway, ah...I gave a news lady from another channel who interviewed me about a week before that a note to pass to you all here on this web site. Nice Gal, dont look like she found her way here. (or maybe like the weak-at-heart didnt get past the intro. I get the feeling that the whole gist of the thing rubs some folks raw. Well, back to the paint! Carry on.

Name: McMing
EmailAddress: recidivist
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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The new forum is cool, just not as loose as this. But after all the commercial non-appropriate BS here .. just c'mon over & we can start our conversation again. Thanx Eric for keepin us going. -- old & in the way

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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Hammond, So, I looked at the new Forum software, and I think I've been able to create a new "Topic" that will have a single list of messages. If you want to link to this new page (which I'm calling The New Guestbook) it's here: http://www.diggers.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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Eric - I registered and thanks. This will make things spam easier for you. The only obvious drag here (to me) is that we must click/read/click/read each message individually in the new Forum vs. being able to read everyone's posts at one click - and with references in between in one area (here) to numerous posts - Or is there a way on the new Forum to read everything all on one page? Also - I think the new forum will make it hard to refer back to other posts if you can't remember who wrote it - but I suppose we will get used to it? ------- What's everyone one else think?

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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New Forum software installed!!! I have been looking to find something to replace the Free Frame of Reference and also this Guestbook. We've been getting so much spam, and the new servers don't format paragraphs. Therefore, I've setup a new Forum area, and if it works for everyone, I will phase out this page. Here's the link: http://www.diggers.org/forum/default.asp -- Everyone has to register, but the registration process is very simple. Please feel free to leave any suggestions. Right now there is just one "Forum" setup but we could have any number.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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bye

Name: < zero
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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AKA the anti-MUGU

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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that was a joke

Name: less than zero
EmailAddress: @nihilism.com
Date: 15 Feb 2004

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couldn't & didn't

Name: Donna
EmailAddress: d_roush@hotmail.com
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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So, not a Digger, but from the time; lived over on Nob Hill in a group house down an alley. One of our lot, who many days campaigned for President from a soapbox in Union Square, went to live with the Diggers, I believe, after losing his job at Otis Elevator (going down?). His name was Marty Mills, but, well, the Mills part may have been a political expediency...would anyone on this list happen to remember him? We've managed to reconnect most of the old group, but Marty remains only a lot of good stories at the moment.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Down Home
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Happy "V-D". Hey Nik; I just re-read that winter impression that the Down East town had on ya. Im' half sold. Saw it all on the wide screen in between my ears. Wanted to turn up the sound but cant find the volume. Theres also an area at the tip of Wesconsin (right on the lake) that I may research. It snugs up against the ass end of Michigan's upper penninsula if memory serves me. (dont' tell me ya' been there!)...please! P.S. this year is my "Search and Discover year"... thats why Im' hoping that this K.C. thing isnt' a false start. Im' torn between pitching camp and skinnin' out. As is; I consider the NYC McAuley's mission "Base Camp". Its like I indicated to some of the "Street Elite" (the hard-core gamblers)... I wrote; "We all lived our lives backwards, one way or another; as...well; here we are, in our 50's and 60's and all living in a fuckin' Orphanage". Aint' it the way? Goodnight all.

Name: diggers again - valentines day
EmailAddress: breaking the chains
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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valintines day resurrection of love for survival. The time has come to "break the chains." boycotting the chain stores will result in working class freedom. The time has come again to resurrect the diggers myth through the centuries. As america, europe slumps into depression and general joblessness, via globalisation, giving up manufacturing to china and services to english speaking india; communal necessity arises for the young, middle age, and old--working class who have no inheritence to depend upon. Education, pensions, medicare and social security is in the process of being ransacked via legislation for the rich 10%. Be passive not!! The remedy is relatively easy with intelligence, focus, dicipline, cosmopolitan open mindedness. Your survival, happiness and challenge is to form groups in each large city worldwide. Charters and rules are necessary for group survival, but the rules have to be flexible and inclusive. that is the challenge. otherwise, you are lost within yourself, aka yuppie self delusion--a small speculator in a rigged market. Group balance sheets, income statments and cash flow statemets are necessary, learning economics of the group is necessary - the strong have to go get income, and the expenses have to be sparse. this is not for all personalities. dicipline is necessary and a vision poetic is a possible anchor. perhaps futile for the young undicplined,energetic young. Get rid of the tv and get an efficient vehicle to start the new interaction. good luck. Secular story is key, old and new testiment is death, in my opinion. see northrop frye "the secular scripture." a hard read but a door to enlightening, in my opinion. peace.....

Name: henry - follow the money
EmailAddress: tap6@mindspring.com
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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if your cup of t is to follow the money: http://www.jsmineset.com

Name: Galinda Gorlinsky Dalbom
EmailAddress: bj@monet.com
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Groovey site my commrads, my all trees breathe clean air man.

Name: CounterPunched Weekend
EmailAddress: writenow@spiritone.com
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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"Eviction Year Crisis" --- http://www.counterpunch.org/poems02142004.html --- + ----"(Un)Intelligence Conundrum" by Mort Subiet.

Name: FYI - Service (Suspect)
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Eric (and J) - ditto-ditto-ditto! ----- and -----Bless your hearts one and all on this (ideally) rosy day. "Women With Ex-wives" - leave it to Steve to create the title for someone's next "Peton Place" before they write it. Mutes speak louder than words!

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Congratulation Eric from me also. Steve what you said about women now having ex wives still has me rolling. Watch out for the backlash from the bible belt.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Happy Valentine's to one and all - Congrats Eric - a great moment for you and Joe.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Sincerest congrats Eric and Joseph, the hypocrisy had to end. What's right is right. The sooner all are recognized as equal under God and the law the better. Not that the backbiting and lies won't stop but to make a stand and remain committed!! One small step for man one giant step for man..... you know what I mean. Congratulations!!!!!

Name: Jag
EmailAddress: Smoothe
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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I'm listenting to Austin City Limits and I only have two words, Norah Jones!!!

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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Mark, I couldn't wait and did the same with poor sound and video and still the gist is there, market hate with the same tools you profess to hate!!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 14 Feb 2004

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JAG, I just to a look at that video. I had to do it on dial-up but I got it. Now this is twisted and freaked fundamentalism, gone over there far out edge without seeing their own hypocrisy. Weird. Trouble is the culture they are aiming it at will buy it lock, stock and barrel. Crazy. Steve, I am thinking about doing nothing in the present when it gets here.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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http://www.ipnews.planetgac.com/ I haven't watched this yet cause you need a good connection , broadband prefered, which I have at home but it can be accessed with a dial up which takes time but should be worth the effort. (I'm in hotel and will wait to watch it tomorrow but from what I read it should be a trip. "The video you are about to watch is a rap video designed to inspire people to take up jihad against the West. Posted on a radical Islamic website based out of the United Kingdom, the video is undeniably entertaining, as professionally produced as any video you might see on MTV. Consider the irony: radical fundamentalism, sworn to destroy Western culture and beliefs, uses that culture to market its hate. Paralleling the same deception, the Islamic organization that produced and marketed this video claims to be an Islamic "human rights" group but in reality is a group sworn to support the killing of Jews, Christians and moderate Muslims. This offering is only the first of many to come from IP News Service. Additionally, this is only a temporary web site, soon to be replaced by a permanent site. Stay tuned." I don't purport to agree with this but in a cultural sense this should be a real eye opener. A gangsta rap video for Islamic fundamentalists. Gangsta jihad!!!

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Oh!
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Just remembered! I gotta' stop mistaking "Thinking" for "Doing". Now, on that note.. I think Ill' do something... or maybe do some thinking...Read Me???

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KC
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Hey Eileen; feeling things instead of seeing them as they are can be damn painfull. (dont try it at home kids). Its somethin' that Im' trying to balance out. (or.. feel that I am rather..ha, ha..)..Oh..ahh..(I mean Ummm..) (theres a difference) "Umm" is much deeper and thoughtful than "ahh"..lets see.. (now "Lets see".. is when Ive' lost my train of thought from explaining really stupid meaningles "Stuff".. Hey; I got lost for a second. Oh; what was that?.. had it on the tip of my to...man; I almost said tounge. Jesus I gotta stop. The smile is hurtin' my face.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KC MOFO
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Hey .. theres a place in this world for three legged tables.. (at Eileens house)...ah.. man, Im' Ironing right out. The painted China cabinet is comming along slowly but surely. Very surely. (Im' sure of it)...ah..Boy, what a waste of ink; most folks say Ahh.. or think it; I type it. Hmmm.. (same with the Hmm folk)... I can almost picture a cartoon baloon blurb above my head when I think. Uh Oh... gotta get back into my body. Hey, I cant help but thinking about the small bed side night stand that I painted and J.P. sold at the "Clearance" sale at Olema. Its good to get back to basics. Man I can still smell the dust. Oh ya; ON WARD!! Into tha future my brave..ah.. brave... well; what ever you are... (and you know what you are)...Hmmm... same sex marriage?.. I was under the distinct Impression that all sex was the same. I mean; its all skin deep. Ah... wait till some o' these Gal's get Ex Wives!.. (an' they thought that Ex-Husbands were a haunt!! Hey, did ya' here about the new Barbie Doll?..it's called the Divorced Barbie. No shit!.. she comes with the sports car, the Dream House and most of Ken's stuff. Later all. Ah.. Hey Mark, I have kin in Memphis Tenn. and Metropolis Ill. Also in Paduka Kentucky. Keep me posted about each leg of the trip. I may be stompin' around those parts myself within the near & far future.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Among other things they were searching for WU members. They have arial surveliance photos and notes, notes about informants and inflitrators taking photos of residents. This went on from 1970 to about 1976 as far as I can tell. They were very interested in BBR.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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I'm not going anywhere for awhile Mark. Let's talk about it next month. I was thinking you up here. FBI files on Black Bear? They must have been really desperate. Must have figured it was some school of...what? Naked people?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Eric and Joe, That is damn fantastic! My congrats to you and condolences to Asscroft---not really. This could be the start of something very subversive. Eileen, When can you get down here for a few days?...., let me know and we will work it out. The road trip is a two or three week deal to get us out of own rut here in Aptos. ALERT! While waiting to go out for Anniversary dinner tonight, I visited the BBR website. Hadn't been there in a long time and found that some rightous soul has posted the FBI files on BBR for your reading pleasure. A little tedious to get through with all the blocked out info but really amazing stuff. Check it out. I don't know how long it has been on the website.

Name: E
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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make that 60's-70's

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Jag~I'm really enjoying the Hot Tuna music CD after the torture of the history of all our gains of the womens movement etc etc political movements of the 50's and 70's just to realize we are sliding the slippery slope. Yeah I guess I'm not quite as liberated from the mud hole as I like to think and I just get upset and pissed off enough to think of retalliation for sure. Yeah Mark you said it all. Figure the only real reason to hang onto the past is if the present hasn't come up to speed. Then there's the imagined future. Damn challege to stay present long enough to enjoy it or tweek it to our choice of flavors. Ha! picked up your paint brush aye? Put it all away out of sight. You can put your favorite brushes out in a vase like flowers and just enjoy them and more on. Yeah I'm looking at my clay and moving around my carving tools and wood blocks. Cutting legs off my bed instead. You know I have no idea how anyone stays in a house..or a relationship yr after yr. I swear I would go so out of my mind and the house at the very least would be torn apart on a regular basis. Ah Steve you and I are very much the same breed. Had the best dream in ages the other night. Gypsy wagons all over the place..one that was even made to float. Yesterday I spent an hr trying to maintain and not just start screaming and screaming. But that's another story. It was just one of those days when the predictibilty of one day to the next about had me cornered. One leg almost sawed off. What are the bets I can get all done? Mark hope you make it over for tea and crumpets some time soon. That's quite an agenda you got planned.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Eric~CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND JOE!!!! I wish there was a heart on the keyboard, I'd send you a pile. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Wish I could have been there! WOW!!!!!!!**

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Hey, all -- Joseph and I took the opportunity afforded by San Francisco's new Mayor, who ordered the County Clerk to begin offering same-sex marriage licenses, to get hitched after 32 years together. The ceremony was under the gold dome of City Hall in the Rotunda, on the steps of the Grand Staircase. The very steps where the protesters were water-hosed by the SFPD in 1960 at the HUAC hearings, and where the Diggers held Free City Poetry readings in 1968. Strange that we've come full circle and now are on the inside looking out. It was a touching moment.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Eileen and Steve, Our back pages are missing some entries. I think selective memory and mythologized remembrance has purpose rooted in psychic survival. Being able to cut the past loose at will is a talent of the fortunate. I hear folks jump up and down about going to a High School Reunion and how great it all was. No thanks, I can still remember how fucked up it really was and I don't need any help ferreting out those finer nuances of humility. Being a recovered Catholic kinda sets the stage for a few of us. If you can't remember it, there is probably a frickin' good reason for it. On the flip side, I have cut and run so many times it began to be a lifestyle. Ending up isolated from the main goings on and being outside has its pleasures and its annoyances. How to be an observer/participant is not easy to learn. For example, I have thought often of letting go of Planet Drum and moving off in my own sphere but I sometimes feel like it is a lifeline. Hell, I even find the Director General likable at times. The energy in my small world is changing and there is at the least new stimulus headed this way. Still staring at the unfinished canvas started some months ago, actually picking up a brush and looking at it (the brush) today. Ain't much but its a start. Planning a road trip east this spring out to around Memphis or Kentucky and then back down Highway 61 or whats left of it to the Delta. Maybe head back along the Gulf Coast to Corpus Christie and Padre Island. Might go north then up to Denver and across the Rockies back to the Bay Area. 23rd anniversary tomorrow, I insisted on getting married on Valentines Day the second time around. That memory thing got me in some deep pucky when I kept forgeting the anniversary for the first marriage. Hey, I dropped a couple birthdays along the way. Got in an arguement with a close friend and my wife a decade or so back about how old I was till I pulled out my drivers license and I was proven wrong. I am still tryin' though. Musta been all the hits of THC I geezed back in the day. Try that with a little cheba on the side and its your own private ICU. You are all my Valentines. Yes, Eileen the weather sucks here today too.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Nicole~The CD of James Towlson..his voice really grew on me. But from 7 Flights, on, he bummed out and left me wishing I had stopped sooner while I was still lolling in pleasure. Steve~Being lost in the pages of history is not a lot different than my memory that got left behind in the bushes somewhere. At least you were there and can remember what happen or what you thought happen. I have to have friends tell me I was even there and I'm always..Oh yeah? I think I've about chucked so much baggage I can barely keep up with what I've lost. If you get what I'm saying. Present is way more interesting. Just like my art..I am looking for fresh blood. JAg~Just starting on Howard Zinn. Thank you thank you!!!

Name: Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Oh Mark... I shyed from photos at that time. It wasnt like me. But then again; I had just found a new me and was molting so to speak. Dont know why. I regret in a way,keeping out of a group shot up at B.B.R. Along with several "Others". But, hey; theres alot to be said about being lost in the pages of history.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: ahh...
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Trombone?.. I woulda' remembered that. No...After returning the Ranch was way off kilter due to Coyote's absence. He showed and blew his top at some shot-gun antics. " Sing it!".. all together now:...Mammy dont' want no Live-Rounds fired in the front room around here" Anyway,.. I can see his point now,.. but I got a shot gun story about him. (in the same room) Course; I memorize things that I see as well as what I feel; and cant distinguise the two.. (often)...ah...I was around long enough to spead the word about Hendrix (Sept 16??) anyway, from there I headed to Elvin Bishop's house and went full swing throughout the Bay area and surrounding hills on what we (I) refered to as the Studabaker 6X6. What a truck full of crazies. Ah... it was the same truck that Coyote had done a brake job on in the dark one night. I helped him a bit. (I was the tool caddy). Big rumble at Black Bear though; in reference to some truckers "Freeing" up some goods for "The People". (they were the people.. get it?.) Not from our camp. Back to the painting. Later

Name: still cookin
EmailAddress: in the X's
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/realtime-update.html

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Steve, Were you part of the crew getting the trucks ready for the caravan? I have seen some home (skin) movie film of that effort, it has great shots of Eileen and Ariel, JP and his family and the amazing unfolding truck house he built. I don't get to see this stuff very much but there was a great sequence of about 3 parked trucks, Bergs was one and Coyote had one as well as JP. There were kids running around with one truck jacked up getting serviced while a very stoned impromptu band was playing the flat bed of one with a long blackhaired fellow shirtless playing a trombone and laughing so hard I couldn't keep a straight face. I showed up in the spring of 70 at BBR but was gone by fall. Never got back until a couple of years ago to sniff around what was left.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Simon... To the Wayback Machine!!!
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Hey Claude; Im' still a kid. I turn 52 in July. Ah.. I hit Olema Ranch toward the end of the summer of 1970. I had blown out there from Ed Sherman's place on Eddy Street in the Tenderloin. (Olympia Apts.) Willow street ran behind it. Ah... I accompanied an aspiring actress called "Stash". (and her young daughter). I made fast-friends w/ J.P. and worked off of his contact speed high to helped him on his 24 Hr. marathons of setting up the "Olema Ranch Flea Market" that season. "Big Doin's" Later around early Sept. sometime, I migrated up to Back Bear Ranch to celebrate the Autumnal Equinox. Rode up with the female fanction on the Oakland School Bus. We grabbed it from the house that J.P. had stashed all of his family goods. Together with a crew from another ranch we rallied under the invisible banner of "The Olema People". We made a real good showing at B.B.R.: as the Olema campsite was "Where it was at". Now that being said; Being where its at within a place that was where it was at is a real double whammy. Kinda "Where-where-its At-at" Although the Hells Angels among us kept all but the brave at heart at bay, it was a mellow (as in yellow) family outing. Not aturd in the bunch. You may not have picked me out of the crowd as I tended to stick close to the gals, kids & Angels. (hows that for polarity? Anyway; I did spend alot of time trippng by myself out in the yonder. Stuck mostly to the stream. (still do, but their called Avenues and streets now. Later.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Who Me??..
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Ah wellll... Rip-Off??...I ah.. did "Misplace" Coyote's braided rim felt hat. (but that was sortof a ritual kinda thing). I.. well, I kinda left it as an offering (along with my American Flag stockings) at the base of a large talking (well it kinda' whispered..Honest!) moss covered boulder, which was high on a ridge above a utillity road which led toward the Three Forks of the Salmon approx. far enough not to hear big twins rev up from the Olema camp at BlackBear Ranch. (directions vaughe enough for ya??)..Ahh.. I always felt edgy about that. (the hat... not the talking rock). Hell; those woods were full of em'. (rocks, I mean)..I was always fascinated about the bottle that Owl had discovered growing in a tree. I had a wild notion of finding it some day. (There in lies a poem for sure. Ah... now back to the china cabinet. Later all.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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One more thing then I'm outta here. Some great valentines readings for you all. Pick yours...http://www.freewillastrology.com/horoscopes/

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Nicole~So I don't have to go hunting for the CD mail package, send me your address again..? Have sage in freezer. Indian friend told me it keep it fresh! I know the longing that smell can conjure. Mainly keep a stash for ceremony to whip out my fresh sage is a treat for everyone and makes me cool. ha! Nope I can't say I remember the brothers and no don't think I'll ever be ready for pictures from there. But Ariel might be interested. You want to ask her? Thanks for the offer.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Eileen, don't know if you remember the Hamill brothers...friends of Emmettts in Brooklyn, Brian took a liking to Nina, the photographer brother, and Denis, who told "sticky stories" about a dog as big as a subway, with a nose that could smell a lie...anyway I just had lunch with Denis, I saw his column in the NY Daily News so I e-mailed him, he called and we met today...first time in over 20 years, anyway...one of the guys took lots of super 8 film during the course of that one summer at Turkey Ridge and put them on a disk...so he's going to e-mail them to me...I'll send them along to you if you like.............Also I e-mailed Loretta Klein to ask for her number and told her about you and the cards...so I'll e it to you as soon as I recieve it. .......I would looooovvvveeee some sage. ps LIFE IS GOOD.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Steve - ya old floor cat you....the rafters were more psychedelic that the lights on the walls in those daze - fingerpainting, toepainting and eye-balling whatever colored gooping on pyrex dishes. The Chetah scaffold and light crew was the most fun of any of the clubs then - Whiskey included - and largely due to one of the leading lights being a home land chemist at large. Always colorful - always pure fanciful fun projected everywhere.... Such clear the head days when "bad trips" were mostly for the straights who never dropped. Freshly illegal on the outside - but still quite legal on the inside. Contamination was headed our way - then the Chetah burned to the ground along with near-by POP (Pacific Ocean Park) - which for my dollar was the coolest amusement park around - the first to have an admission price that included all the rides - over and over again..... Head friendly to the max compared to the likes of Knotts and Disney....

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Nicole~Might be able to help you there. I have sage I gathered as we were fleeing Questa at the end of June..I think that's one of the time it's at its best. Did you read my note below to you about Miranda's cards? Claude~ just read your moment of winter to Miranda and we agreed we are more than glad to be here bitching about the damp chill. Yes NM's lack of real winter I found unpleasantly bleak. Where the real thing meant you better know your neighbors cause you were going to need them to help get out of some hole or another before it was over. Nope can't say it causes me longing any more. Boy that was a long love affair! Eliminates at least ONE place I don't think I need to be. But I just hate the winter here. It sucks in it's own way and it's HI nxt time around. Got myself locked in here this round or I'd be doing the hula. (Next time won't be going on JUST a wing and a prayer.) Looks to be that huge-O storm that's been hanging off the coast is finally making it's way in. Where at the calm before the storm stage that always gets me high. But it's been too dry here coast too and our water that's from a spring is starting to taste nasty..bottled water until I get a filter.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Ohio Girl, how you feeling today? Woke up thinking about your ordeal of H C and tried sending you some good energy...Haven't been to my healing garden in a while...did I ever ask what I should plant for you? I'm there now...let me know........ Claude your posts about the land around you and the animals the past couple of days...sound so inviting...I can almost smell the sage...Gouge sent me a bundle a year or so ago. Maybe when spring comes you might gather me another?....... Need any thing from NYC?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Claude, Is the Dodge 4x4 you speak of the one that was at Black Bear in 1970? I remember one being parked there but it wasn't used while I was around. I was at the Ranch a couple of years ago and rummaged around in the Black Bear vehicle graveyard and there are some old junkers that are still decaying down the road about a 100 yards from the main house. Due to the remote location I think that they will never get be moved. Must be 10 or so vehicles, mostly pickups, in a heap of parts and body shells. I looked for the Dodge 4x4 but I couldn't recognize it.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Thats probably it Claude, hope you enjoy

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 13 Feb 2004

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Jag: Just got a pick-up notice from the Post Office yesterday, but I din't go in to get it because of the snow today. Hope that's it, I had just remembered you were gonna send it. Eileen: thanks for the intro to Steve. A lot of our scavenging trips to town back in those days are now just a blur. We would come in off the road (8 hours in a 1953 Dodge M-37 Truck, Cargo, 4x4, 3/4 Ton, 50 mph maxed out down Hiway 101, the legendary Army Truck) and after our months of isolation up on the Land, we were pretty crazed. Did any of you folks ever meet Bill Buck? (William Benson Buck III) I'd love to hear someone else's take on the guy. He died around 1970, still quite young at the time, lived in Mill Valley. He put out a lot of money for some good causes. We're in the icy grip of the Arctic Express, a blast of cold air sweeping down the Plains along the Front Range of the Rockies. Never got above 16 degrees all day, and at sundown it plunged right down to zero. Roads are iced over, snow is drifting. Coldest night of the winter tonight. Haven't seen zero for a few years. Not that that's anything like what it has been in some years, but this winter has been mostly a non-event, January was wierdly warm. There's been little snow; the most we've seen so far is out there right now and it's five inches. Steve: In my experience, Claudes are pretty rare; I've only met a couple of them and they tend to be strange. My paternal grandfather, who I never met, was a Claude down in Mobile Alabama. Some kind of capitalist, i gather, from the little I know of him, but strange enough to have left a big chunk of his fortune to his housekeeper back in the 70's. (trying for paragraphs here)

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress: say howdy
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Steve~Go to "archives" and find Communication Company for a (very)minor intro of Claude. Maybe you might remember Claude and Helane on one of their rare visits, showing up with baby/s? always leaving with anything that wasn't nailed down..including some stuff that was. Both dark (both with long black hair and dark clothes) and hella spooky looking..Helane out of some swamp book doing really tripped out hand sewn clothes at that point, in the rough patched together style I expect the Civil WAr soldiers were sewn together with. Very intense pair coming in from Covelo. Were you there when the snatch of human hair that looked like a scalping showed in a plastic bag was left at the door? Turned out to be a pig skin Helane thought I might want to tan. yeah right. Ha ha! Claude want to take it from there? Claude~Steve was a youngun at Olema that slid under the radar..none of us have been able to recollect clearly since he didn't threaten to shoot anyone, rip anyone off, go off with anyone's old lady, or make an unforgivable mess in the kitchen, but has enough clear memories there's no doubt our loss of brain cells is the problem. Don'tcha just hate that?

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Steve, I met a dude a few years back who was in his late 70's, Ukranian and in the Hitler SS as a concentration camp guard. Never thought I could know or tolerate a concept like that but the man I knew was a simple and if not kind at least nice man. He was generous and never had a bad word if he liked you, he was also pretty paranoid about some stuff but I chalked it up to immigration worries. Alex Housa or some such name is what I knew him as and the tales he told! Nineteen when the Nazi's occupied his homeland, gave him a "Sophies Choice" kind of ultimatum, join or watch your family suffer. He was a blond haired blue eyed "aryan" and as such was eligible for membership in Hitlers elite squad of sadist's. He still harbored alot of bigotry and intolerance but masked it well and never insulted a soul nor spoke a word in the presense of a minority. It was after they left that he would drop a small innuedo or slur,never overt always slightly dispariging and always civilized. I know it sounds bizarre but I liked the guy. I went to a lions club charity event he hosted for Ukranian orphans after the fall of the Soviet Union and he was on his best behavior. Would have thought he was Ghandi for all the BS he ladled out all for a good cause!! Any way what I mean is you never know the truth about a person unless they want to let you in on their innermost secrets. I couldn't believe he was willing to tell me what he did but for some reason he trusted me and I did have a morbid fascination with his story. This guy was a fount of WW II stories all from the other side.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: lemmie seee.....
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Ah... dont remember much... the light shows always had catchy names.. I could connect if I had a Filmore Poster book etc. Very primitive stuff then; fingers protruding out of pails of oil, au... lenny bruce type lone ranger cartoons,..ah... weird stuff. Never did climb the platfolms or get into the booths etc. I was a main floor cat. Plant my ass on the floor and sure as shit both legs would fall asleep... I may have mentioned that once... what.???.. ahh... hey, I got a real dose of "Normal" tonight. I forgot how the other half (make that 99%) live. Its all so basic. I drank three types of wine, visited Wal-Mart etc. This middle america is very soothing. Nobody is keyed up. Never realized what a coil-spring-Hair-Trigger-tension that the NYC street scene constantly reverbarates. Not sleeping w/ my goods under my pillow is a real break. Not showering w/ 65 other cats who have more tattoos than I do or shitting with privacy is a break also. I seem to go to extremes. That being said: I like this end of the spectrume. Hey Claude:.. I like your' name. Ah.. the only Claude I can remember was Claude Shwobe. (German) He had two strikes against him: One: he was Germanic during the 40's. Two: He was not "In the Service". (Big Hush-Hush.)He was bummed out for being called a "Slacker" during the big one; when he was actualy working at Oak Ridge Tenn. (before it was officially on any maps). Ol' Claude was a nuclear Physisist for Uncle Sam on the Q.T. He helped put the final touches on the bomb. He was in a graduating class at one point w/ Kissinger. (dont know what his Major was??!! Anyway, The Claude I knew must be long gone. His experimental film work was out of sight. Filmed me naked in the Russian River doing card trick (yes w/ a deck of cards) back in the early summer of 1970. He payed me a very high compliment. After finding out what everyone was into (Heavy drugs)... (after a few funerals).. he said: "Ya know Steve...I never worried about you." Now that really made it in my book. And on that note. Folks: I aint worried about you all. Claude... ya... good name. Ah.. gonna hand paint a china cabinet for the Lady Rev. in the A.M. A simple Year of the Monkey, Dragon-Lady-Tiger motif...you know.. Ol' gypsy style. Music? ... Gimmi Bad Company's live version of "Young Blood" ... that opens my nose every time. Hey, I can see the stars out here at night....odd.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Claude everyone seems to have got the Oldies disk cept you? Did the US mail fail?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Here is a link to the New York Press. Click on the article by Paul Krassner "Zen Bastard" http://www.nypress.com/

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Nicole~Miranda has just put together a set of cards that we are anxious to see if your friend will be interested. Would you let us know how to proceed? I'm always left pondering and chewing on ideas, while beauty just pours from Miranda's fingers with such ease she leaves me in the dust..it's always been the case. The girl is truely gifted. Nicole+Jag~Sunday will have time to finally kick back and catch up on such things as the pleasure of CD's from both of you (while I carve wood blocks). // I spend my free time preparing designs for the next class. I am trying to make a leap in my work and it is always tempting to ease up and just work with what I have already done. And as I said, until I can find my new route, I do tend to have to grind it out. I'm working in such "set" mediums..especially the print making. I am pressed to be more exacting than I am normally comfortable with. And that, as well as weaving and ceramics is so time consuming I want to be sure where I'm going before I put my hand to it. The ceramics (throwing) is blowing out my hands and I have decided to start working in another manner. Will tell you about it next wk. I don't expect the teacher is going to approve. // Ohio Girl~Your comments on rap made me laugh. They used to be like the newspapers of the streets..now they're for the most part abusive and nasty..and the vidoes? Give me a break! Yeah, I'm Old School and intend to stay there. But have you heard Outkast?! I got to say they're totally hot!!http://www.outkast.com/

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Steve - sounds like we were doing a shadow dance with Bernardo's connections. He loved the light shows more than the music - both backdrops to his dose of whatever du jour. Did you ever trip into Light Sound Dimension (Bill Ham's scene) when it was on Sacto St.? Old mattress' and pillows on the floor for comfortable tripping..........

Name: claude
EmailAddress:
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Nicole, that was me re: Garcia/Grisman CD. I'll check out that new one when it gets here, Thanks. Finally got a little snow here; we've been so deprived that 4" is a big deal. Records show that we recieved 7" of precip. in 2003 (rain + melted snow). That's dry. Does seem to be some snowpack building in the high country, which will keep our Pecos Trickle rivering enough to fill the acequias this summer. Last year we didn't even get our summer monsoon. Finally got the cross-fencing completed and we now have a small herd of neighbor's cows pastured in there until the asparagus sprouts this spring. Did I ever mention our asparagus? All you can eat for a month or so when it happens, no stalking required. I think it's the heaviest stand of wild asparagus I've seen anywhere. The neighbor trades us some range-raised beef for the grazing. Our refuge still available here for quiet-seekers. Low-stimulus zone. Few radio/TV signals find their way down into our canyon, and our elusive resident Great Blue Heron is still surviving. First grandchild due in three weeks. (It's a boy, they say.) SSB (Seldom Seen): Welcome back, though I don't think we ever met. We def trod the same streets, tho.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: oldies music
Date: 12 Feb 2004

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Jag, the music is outstanding. How profound this morning, listening to Sam Cooke's "Bring It On Home" and thinking about the very young Rolling Stones hearing that and how music is always evolving itself. My husband set off for work, I've got a few days off in the midst of changing what shift I work, I've started digging on some coffee and Howard Zinn....... The other day someone lent my husband a CD rap compilation. Well I always liked some rap music but listening to a whole bunch of it in a row I wanted to rip someone's head off, maybe mine. Is this a sign of age or what? I never cared how dark and ominous the Doors got for example, nevermind if it oppressed my parents back them. Times they are a changin' I guess. Steve I like hearing what you've got to say. Nicole I so much enjoyed the description of the wintertime Maine beach. Peace

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: couldnt' wait till tommarrow....
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Beware of strangers pushing wholesale pearls. (well,... sounds good to me..)... good luck w/ yer' magic box. Sure hope the one Im' on dont get worms. Later;.. for sure this time.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KC Mo
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Hmmm... that was some station break. Now back to the program: Ah... Hell, this visit is getting intense. An' here I thought that I was in the Bible-Belt. The way things are heatin' up, Im' dubbing it the Kama Sutra Belt. YeeeOwwwZaaaaa!!!! Tune in tommarrow. Later all.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Eric, just a heads up if you don't already know, the Planet Drum site isn't working and I get a http403 error trying to access it. Also Peter can't email me but I can email him. Weird.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Station KCMOFO
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Nik; the CD that I was refering to is on RHINO (R2 74264) It's called "Washington Square Memoirs" (the great urban folk boom) 1950-1970. In my mind it down-plays Revolution and boosts Evolution. Its terrific. Ah..In 1970 my favorite albums were by Jerry Jeff Walker and Donovan. (plus an old Jerry Vale LP).. dont laugh.

Name: REDNECK POET BILOXI
EmailAddress: jed_wainwright@hotmail.com
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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GOT A FULL SET A SLEEVES ------- AN ATTITUDE ------- AN A REP FOR DOIN PUNKS ------ FUCKIN BAD ASS WOODS ------- FRESH FROM THE WAREHOUSE ----- RIP DOWN THAT YELLOW RIBBON --- AFTER PAYBACK ----- AM A GOIN BACK -------DO ME SOME MORE PUNKS.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KC MO FO
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Ahh.. 1973, ya,.. around March... Elvis had just pulled off his televised Hawian broadcast. Ok,.. dont ask me what happened yesterday.. (I cant remember)...

Name: Steve Again.
EmailAddress: WOW
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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One Hundred & fifty million whould buy alot of legs. Hey, Ide' give her mine if I could. Please dont take any offence with my "What will Be Will Be" attitude. ("but it's gotten me this far") Im' working on the sensitivity thing. It is work.

Name: Steve (honey..will you see who's at the door?)..
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Ham; ya, I met several bay area Light Show folks (who all seemed on thier last legs) in my night moves w/ Bernardo. Ahh.. Little Egypt 109..or 409??..Ah.. a few others. I carried Danny over to Toy's place and guarded him all night as he slept; (a quirky security issue on his part). Toy had just had her baby and her blade-freak boy-friend wasnt all-too supportive, (or receptive to "Visitors"). I never saw him sit down once. I shrugged it off and Toy & I became like Peas & Carrots. She thought that my guard duty was very gallent. I played Mother to the baby as well as Danny. When he finnaly did arise from the dead, he re-fueled with his weekly bowl of ceareal, we were off and running again. His fine cousin was REALLY down. I mean she was DOWN. Anyway,..I tested myself by holding my own with Danny on a week long STP, DMT, 123, ABC, Speed who knows what run which lead me to fear the daylight (and people)for some time afterward. I finaly broke away & headed for the empty Church St. Apt. & layed an oriental rug down in the kitchen and turned on the gas. It was par for the course. I ended up drying (wringing) out at Weird Harry's on Channing Way in Berserkely, with pit stops at Ed The Head's Shafter Ave. basement in Oakland. "A" and Dildoe were in and out at that time between Pink Floyd concert dates. Ahh.. Ronney Conan (cover name) and Brother Tommy made the sceane, as well as all of the Blvd. India Imports gals. Lotsa free stuff. Trip was doing the Bong (which I always found to Intense).. Im' a mild, passive smoker. Mucho blond Leboneese fingers, etc. I had connected with a young (any other kind) run-a-way girl named Cherry. (dont let the name fool ya'.) Ahh... That had to have been early 73 as I remember the Chemical plant explosion over in Richmond and Lou Reed stiffed a Berkeley Concert date. To earn my keep I hand painted all of Harrys windows, with a Bad Finger No-Dice Theda Barra type Gypsy theme. Then on a whim I thumbed to Florida to reunite with my straight wife who turned me on to liquid valium and sodium pentathol. (dont know if she ever did get the truth outa' me)..???!!!.... Ahh.. Ya' know what Ohio Girl; maybe its best left alone... Hey Nik; is that place Down East like ah.. got a store & post office etc?. Is it a seasonal place?.. or could a man make it year round?. P.S. Where havent' you been? Maybe Im' just 30 years off and just following the trail. (or scent)..ha, ha... Hope all is well. Be back in NYC after V'Day. Ive' pulled out of the rut. Oh; Hey, heres a poem for Bernardo. BOARDING PASS by S.R. Boyd: A forgotten flight of fancy... Surreal and otherwise... We always flew first clas...Im' talkin' the "Friendly Skys". Yet grounded; we often seemed to trudge, never questioning why...getting there was half the fun; such as is life: until we die.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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One leg Steve.....I just said she was looking at legs meaning different ones but its only one affected. Bush Cheney or should it be Cheney Bush have 150 million dollars they will be spending shortly in a media blitz.....get ready. Hes falling faster than Enron stock.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Can't remember who was inquiring but, Jerry Garcia and David Grissman have a new cd coming out in April called, "Been all around this World" a compilation album of gigs played in the '90's. Shady Grove etc. It may have been what you heard, as I know my favorite station WFUV has been playing their advanced copy.

Name: Ps - H
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Steve - and you are so right about his hair in this shot..... Bernardo's afro was so electric you could read in the dark by it.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Steve - Yep - Eddie (sp?) was indeed an SF Night Crawler - he was with Bernardo when we first met in Mike's Pool Hall. At the time Eddie had an abcess from doing up C and then missing the shot - but hey he was a tough bird Eddie....Great sense of humor - and then he showed up in the Canyon - You always got in free when you were with Bernardo. He hooked me up with the light-show scene at The Chetah in Santa Monica - (where the 3rd Pg. photo was taken). BTO's indeed..............And yes he did have FED troubles - but they never seemed to bother him - only the rest of us who hung out with him.... Last time I say him - (same as you!) was on Hollywood Blvd. I was driving by and there he was doing that Bernardo walk looking like he had just come from a week long orgy. I gave him a ride to Doheny and that was that - What a great guy...............

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Steve, that would be Lubeck, Maine...Baleen's sister was part of a commune that was there, an old whaling port and cannery village. Peter and I visited one winter on the trade route trip...very beautiful, in the winter, pale green lichen on black rocks wet from the steel grey sea with white foam pushing tide lines on yellow sand and hard red holly berries pushing through soft white snow...dark storm clouds moving out to sea...majestic. of course the western most point of the continental US is Petrolia where many digger men and women live now.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: carry Moonbeams home in a jar
Date: 11 Feb 2004

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Maybe we're all worse off than we remember!! so, maybe some things are best left forgotten. Peace

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KCMO
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Nik; just skimming a bit and came across the reference of someone named Mike who gave the word. Ya, from time to time folks would show an Interest in me and as I was staying to myself for the most part; I always took it as a sign. You know; a link. Anyway,..The "Mike??!!" in question was a photographer who asked to take my photo. Im' not sure If Clyde was in the shot, as he had me "POSE"..( can you believe it?). I didnt' know that they still do that. In any event, it was a serene setting. It was down by the ships. I turned one gal onto the site after she admired the way I had my gear packed prior to down-sizing. That was up in Riverside Park. Then there was a worldly Ex Junkie who was a New Port Gigallo of softs who had mentioned being involved with a production group that had attempted to pull off a film based on one of Emmitts' books. This brought up the Digger thing, which most think is ancient history.

Name: Boyd's Book-Pick of the week
EmailAddress: The Strand
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Try "Divine Manners From Heaven" by Quintin Crisp.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Barnes & Noble
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Red Neck...Kansas?.. Im' just a hair East of the line. (KC. MO.) "They got some crazy little women there, An' Im' gonna' get me one". Hey, I Got lots of kin in MO. also. Around East St.Lois, Bellville and Cahokia. Ya Red Neck,.. I been readin'. Mostly about the worlds greatest thinkers. Theres one hell of a book that's title shys away from its real bottom line: ECONOMICS. Amazing how new the concept of accumulating wealth is. (in retrospect). Seems we were into just havin' enough to get by on. (ring a bell). Greed is a motherfucker. Hey, dig this; theres an itty-bitty town just East of Calais Main (Down East) which is the farthest east of any town in America. They all see the sun rise over the Atlantic before anyone. Man... thats gotta be a close second. May bus up yet in better weather to scout it out. Zero crime rate, which is what Im' all about these days. (Thats sayin' alot for a cat who was standin' in Courtlandt Ally last weed huffin' killer weed, blowin' it into an empty wine bottle and inhailing to through his neck stoma.)... that is a crime.. right???. Shit. (Monny; whats that man doing?)

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KC
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Legs? as in two? Damn. Have her check out some wheels. I chased a world class electric wheel chair type of deal a while back. It had turbo. But no shit. Thats a damn shame. Hey; things could look up. In talking to the Lady Reverend who Im' visiting (no not the 90 yr. old) she hinted to me that I was worse off than I remember. On top of always down-playing my situation Im' wonderin' if Drain-Bammage was involved. Hmmm... this could be a job for Acid Recovery Systems. It seems that she does remember things that I dont. I will get her talkin' soon. She's my Valantine. I seem to get the drift that they sewed me up and all ran. The heavy Radiation bombardment after the fact was to zap what they couldnt' cut out. Lucky to have anything left to hold up my head. Anyway...Hey Joe, give her my best. Now lets see... E train.. A train... hell, I swear it was the "A". Dead ended WAY uptown and back-tracked out at Far Rockaway. Well, still not done muddin' & tapin'. Getting into wall paper in the a.m. (so much for my image). Later Joe. ( between you & me, all I ever did was dwell in a house... never renovated em'.) ...( ventilated a few)... and then some. OH WENDY???!!... IM" HOME!!!. (here's Johnny).....

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Well Steve she really hasnt gotten any better in the last 17 months...shes looking into legs if you know what I mean. By the way the E train is the only train that never goes above ground. In case you need that information sometime in the future. You hit the target about looking forward. There hasnt been much of that here since your hiatus. Regime change is in the air fer sure. You cant even pull the wool over the eyes of TV viewers all the time. All you FBI and Homeland Security people reading this put on your flak jackets, pack your canteens, get off your computers and get into the mountains and look for Osama you cowards.

Name: Steve again
EmailAddress: KC MO-FO
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Mouthbreather??!!.. that aint nice. What the hells wrong w/ me? DONT ANSWER THAT. Is it an odd bitterness? Its' strange, but it got me thinkin' of Bernardo. Its all fragmented. For instance: I remember the bright sunlight while thumbing w/ him from the airport into the city, but cant remember the flight. Think about it. Hey, one thing about hitch-hiking w/ him; we got rides pronto; (or was it me?..or was it us?...Im' havin' a real EGO thing here...(whats new)...ahh...Truth is, I always had a scary feeling that Bernardo was one of the unknowns who were dug up south of the border. (or who still lay in those shallow graves. He did walk on the wild side. I hope his passing wasn't jaggy. Hey Bernardo; dont worry about FEDS up there. There' all Hell-Bound. P.S. It seems as though only the gals an the mellow Men may be left to tell the tale. BINGO! Let's hear it for the MEEK. (Knives & all). Later.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KCMO
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Thanks Ham. Damn; aint it the way. Thats a fairly conservative photo. Short hair & all. Eddy rings a bell if he was an S.F. night-crawler; but I met very few of the So.Cal. Laurel Canyon crowd. Hey, if ya' wanna match the voice w/ the face, get a copy of Columbia Record's "The Big Ball". It has a snippet of Bernardo as front man for & BTO's (Boys together often, outragiously, etc).. a splinter of the GTO's "GROUP". Oh, the mouth breather he's with looks damn farmilliar. I was partial to Brown Sugar myself. Seems like yesterday I was breakin op a brick on his kitchen table. I had to get use to the girl thing that Bernardo pulled into his orbit. When we would hit the Carousel Ballroon it was like WOW. He usually got flagged in free; (allong w/ hangers on). I love kitchens. Ahh...Hey, not much time to skim what Ive' missed. Just installed a doorknob, and am working on a sheet-rock cieling. (in between folding clean laundry.) If the Bowery Boys could see me now. In hind-sight I feel like aturd. Everytime he's see me he'd really perk up. I distanced myself from him, as he had FED problems. Last encounter was in West Holywood. I "Had somewhere to go". Damn.

Name: RED NECK POET BILOXI
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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HE'S BACK-----THE BOY BOYD------ WELCOMES AND ALL ------- YA BEEN TRIPPIN-----YA ALSO BEEN READIN DAWG------READIN ALL BOUT KANSAS------TELL EM ----- KISS AND TELL EM -----THE BOY BOYD.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Steve - you were away when I posted this photo of Bernardo and Miss Mercy of the GTO's - http://emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/missmercy_bernardo.html -------- I received this a month or so ago out of the blue from Trulee - and she says she has others - but I have yet to see them. This of course sent me on a Bernardo hunt and via Miss Pamela (deBarres) of the same GTO's - dear Bernardo passed away two years ago. Last name? - Did he have a last name? - Also did you know his running mate Eddy (sp. is incorrect)?

Name: r
EmailAddress: a goodie
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KCMO
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Q. What was Bernardo's Name??...Hey all... just lightly skimmed yer' "Back Pages" and the querie about Bernardo popped up. His name "Was/Is"??!! Bernardo Saltana. His mom was pure blood (Injun from down Mexico way, and his dad was Old School Spannish.) As I may have mentioned before, everytime anyone ever pointed a camera at us, I was in the habit of exposing myself (A Bit) and Bernardo would hide his face. I thought that that was rather odd at the time (as that was/is usually a biker trait).. but then again; my exhibishionistic streak never came into question. (Sign of the times?). Maybe thats why he always hide his face... never thought of that. In short; Bernardo "Walked like a man but smiled like a reptile". I was over-under-sideways-down with him all along the west coast of and on from 1970 to about 75 and through it all never made it with him. It was deeper than that. Much deeper. But then again; everything was deeper then. I loved/love his Lady. His son Triston would be about 34 at this writting. I was with Bernardo and Tennessee Jim in S.F. on the day he was born. Bernardo and I were setting up a big Grass deal through Pheonix if I remember right. He played a bit (alot) with my original birth certificate and was going by my name at the time. So;.. I guess the answer to "What Was Bernardo's Name?" would be: Steven Robert Boyd. (Aint it the way?)

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Ohio Girl, One of my all time favorite Von Ronk tunes is "Would you like to wish on a star". His gravelly voice just transforms that song.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Eileen, btw, did you ever get a chance to listen to James cd? Just curious.

Name: Nik aka WVG
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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Oh my yes, I'm jes fine. Working, singing, visiting...you know, when we were all on the caravan in the south west, picking peaches on the western slope of the rockies, I had a revelation. I had been thinking about the various women in the family and what they did...Sam was an incredible seamstress, Nina and Joanna phenomenal gardeners, Susan Keyes was a polished writer, Judy a dancer Vicky a researcher and teacher...etc etc and I didn't know what is was that I did...well, on that trip to Paonia I realized what I do best is visit. I mean, that's my vocation...and it's as valid as anything else...of course that was 30 years ago and though I am STILL a visitor I do a few other things now too...btw, when you get back here, please find me...I had you locked up in a cellar at john Asscrofts headquarters for god sake, although we did hear from some guy who'd seen you. So happy to hear from you. truely.love Nicole, you know, that girl from the west village.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress:
Date: 10 Feb 2004

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I always loved Dave Van Ronk, heard him live every chance I got. That's funny about the sacrifice of not being able to say excuse me and pardon me. Peace, Fran

Name: SSB
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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Ah... make that "Wind breaker". Hi Eric; its good to be back. Ya know, I really didnt "Talk" to anyone for about three months, and as far as being mute in the Big Bad City; Im' thinkin' that about 3 million others should try it. Although it is a drag not being able to say Excuse me, pardon me Etc. But they dont say it anyway; so to hell with trying to mime good manners. Later.

Name: SSB
EmailAddress: Them thar' hills
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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WVG: "I miss the city streets an' that New York life...train commin' round the bend". Got the word in Church sunday: "If not us...who? If not now...when? Think about it. Hey, I may hook a job at a PLASTICS factory through a connection. Hope the lead pans out. Plan on dumping SSI the day I get on the payroll. Give it to a real cripple. Square my licence around and pick up a pick up. First though; its back to the streets of ol' NY and park my dead ass at the nations oldest rescue mission and squirrel some dough away and mail out provisions that will make life bearable in Missouri. (namely: Good Luck Charms). Gave my latest I Ching and three coins to that Holy Woman on the bus... but will score again & get back to the old ways. Ofcourse around here I may have to glue a Bible cover on it. Hey; I picked up a wild breaker at a thrift store today. (The embroidered patch on it reads: ACID RECOVERY SYSTEMS). While Im' back in NYC gathering up possibles, my dearest friend will scan for a centrally located studio apt. Oh; latest on the players: Buckeley is holed up in a Baptist churh, Miz Nancy is lost in action,...ahh..lets see...as far as me trying to pull off being an annonymouse man in an annonymouce city:..well, I realized that I know about a thousand New Yorkers and they all prowl the streets. For a big city it sure is small. Hey, that aint a bad thing. May hop back here in full gear by April or May. Later all. Nik; you OK?? Oh, that reminds me.. remember when I commented once about you not smiling in your' photos?..well, I reviewed that and found that you were. (am I that insightfull at times??).. scary aint it. See ya' folks. Hey, should that Medicine woman pop on sight, give her a warm welcome.

Name: W V G
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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SSB... Good to know your ok and back on board.

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress: fingernails
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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"NEXT QUESTION PLEASE" - - http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/flagburner.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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What was that saying? - Oh - "When the people lead, the leaders will follow." - Makes sense to me - but - idealism like this never got anyone elected into office did it? Leaders today seem to deaf, illiterate, mean greedy bastards who really don't care what "the people" think. Old news with new shoes worn by a dangerous embarassment. ---- An (Un)Intelligence Conundrum?-----"Intelligence that can't be intelligently evaluated in afterthought might have been intelligently shredded together in 'afore-thought irretrospectively' speaking of intelligence that can't be found. " - 2004 Mort Subiet

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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Eileen, Yep, I took your explanation of the samurai lesson to heart. In fact, it has been in my thoughts off and on since you posted it. I admit to being of divided energy especially when it comes to the political upheaval. Falling victim to a meaningless media campaign is what I need to look out for. The facts are that the party is really over and there is no sense in getting my shorts in bunch until the election day. Then just vote and encourage others around me to do the same. Meanwhile I need to stand back some. Your correct that these honkies aren't our leaders and we need to carry on that way.....but...the damage being done needs to be fought off in the short term and moving on with the decaying of the established regime by the counterculture as well. Compost the Imperialists!

Name: The 3rd Page
EmailAddress: New Fingernails
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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"Face Off On a Train"... http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/faceoff.html ...and.. "Ogee-O-Tine"... http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/ogeeotine.html

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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Claude - I nearly choked on my pretzel! - great laugh in the morning - thanks....Steve - so good to have you back in the saddle!

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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Mark~You got my little lecture on the samurai stuck in the mud, right? I have this theory we are tricking ourselves out anyway, to keep all our attention on the gov't and less where it would be the most creative..on one another. Lead and the leaders follow. Well, no I can't really see that..but maybe they can be left behind because they are definitely NOT leaders. We can begin to create something rather large if we refocus. This is where I think the whole idea behind the Diggers makes the best illustration of what I am saying and what the fresh breeze Steve has brought in suggests as well. Mark, not doing your art? Perhaps you should try a new medium as I have. It might refresh your inspiration.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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Eileen, I know how it goes, I get tossed around quite a bit if I spend too much time on memory lane. Sometimes I don't have a choice and then I have to reach back for some of the old defenses to pull me through. Some of the old tools are a little arthritic and take some coaxing to get into the act meanwhile I feel like hog on spit. It is all in the balance but balancing it very hard at times. Steve does a great job of illustrating the conflict between now and then, makes a person think about how to deal with it. The old call for what can be poured on the fire always comes around and never seems to completely fade away. I remember being told to save the medicinals for when I get old, well the years are adding up and I am not sure of that advice anymore. Maybe later. Self-torment is not on my list of things to do. Going forward is best, but difficult when all seems in high gear reverse these days. I have been stuck in the mud...haven't picked a paint brush in months. I am just trying to wait it out, let it come back on it's own. Headed for bed and hopefully more sun tomorrow.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 09 Feb 2004

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Hi Guys~Yes Steve you got it right all the way around. Forward! I just get depressed talking the '60. I still struggle to be in the present. No folks I may not be able to stand another round re: "the" book. specially glad you're out of NYC. No place for a sweet wild man like you. The ocean? It's still there and if things are good where you are the trade off is so worth it. So a brief catch up..I was about to slit my throat a few months back thinking about the taste of heroin to ease the pain. But made myself keep moving on. Found out my hormones were off. Good grief who would have figured out but some health psychic. Anyway about the same time discoved weaving. Made several rugs and in the process got in touch with that thing that had moved me to design clothing in the 60-70's and I'm on a roll. Going to local college taking printmaking, art history, ceramics (if my hands hold out) and move weaving. This will go until late May. Then it's open seas..........*

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Steve, I had a thought during your MIA experience that you might have found your way back to Paragould. BTW, my mother was born in KC, Missouri and have some ancient family history around there. My Grandfather worked for the paper there in the 20's. Family name was Markey, Irish to the bone.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Steve, I told you a million times not to exagerate. You got me lookin' for some music though, I have been hung on Highway Sixty One Revisted and The Chess Collection of Howlin' Wolf lately. Van Morrison has been in there too. You ever here the Chambers Brothers when the were still a gospel group? I had a album in the mid sixties that I checked out of a local public library and I cannot find a reference to it anywhere, it a fantastic album.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: House Rent Blues
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Mark; half of everything I have is yours. (or could be..or will be,...or..ah... mabe already was...or..ahh...anyway; you know what I mean. We can liquid nail some shag carpet and lawn furniture to the ceiling and stucco the floor.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: Big D KCMOFO
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Hey; while were' on the subject;,... how about Nicole Wills singin' & ticklin' the 88's in the back parlor of the the Peace Church Parish House. Its like Im' still there.(and I wanted to walk away from the past;... come-on Steve... what were ya' thinkin'??.

Name: Steve Again
EmailAddress: Station KC-MOFO
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Oh ya... The Three CD Package is on RHINO. delve into www.rhino.com

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: KC, MOfo
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Mark; I tend to romantasize everything. Forget the 78's, LP''s & 45's. Cut to the chase and order the tree CD collection titled: Washington Square Memoirs. (The Great Urban Folk Boom 1950-1970). All those "Folks" sat there in the thick of it and played at one time or another. ( Joni, Simon & Gar. and James aint on it due to licensing restrictions)...I do tend to exagerate a bit. But no shit, after listening to it, ya dont wanna be hurtfull; ya' wanna be kind. ( or is it me???)... Oh; Speaking of the Park in question; my fondest memory of it was walking in the rain arm in arm with Rena Morningstar. Now that was some sweet music. Hey... really Joe: no slant on Brooklyn, but out here I can grab a studio Apt. by the month for what Ide' pay for a single occupancy room about 12" wider than the bed W/ a shitter down the hall. And my obsession about being near the ocean?... hell; I am an ocean. A silent Sea. Hey Nik,.. you out there. P.S. Mother Witch: ... I know....I know...It's all good aint it?

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Claude, Almost choked on my tempura...no damn pretzels for me. That is funny, our fearless leader seems to be a little fried and drifty at times. Could it have been all the white lines or some of that good Texas shrub he smoked? Steve, now that is a list of musical inspiration and I can't seem to think of more, you just about covered it. I am headed toward the midwest this spring or summer and if your still around, KC isn't to far off track.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Joe; Ive' been to Brooklyn maybe twice in my sweet short life. One on a forced "Work Fair" project prior to hooking cancer, the second time to a party over by the museum. To Manhattener, Brooklyn is like Jersey: "Out of State". My three day run back & fourth to Far Rockaway dont count as the hoarde of bums and I that stuck out the storm only switched cars at the elevated platform. (never touched ground). Hey, hows the wife??..

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: "HEAD" of the class. Fools School
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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OK kids; hers yer' first assignment: It's a musucal quiz of sorts. Pull out the Ol' 78's, 33-1/3 rds, & the 45's. Get an ear full of Woody Guthrie, Sam Hinton, Big Bill Broonzy, Jean Ritchie, Ed McCurdy, Josh White, Malvina Reynolds, Oscar Brand, Cisco Houston, The Weavers, Glenn Yarbrough, Erik Darling, Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee, Randy Sparks, The Kingston Trio, Odetta, Bud & Travis, Pete Seeger, The Journeymen, The Lost City Ramblers, Bob Gibson & Bob Camp, Cynthia Gooding, Ramblin' Jack Elliott, Peggy Seeger, Hoyt Axton, Carolyn Hester, Barry & Barry, The Rooftop Singers, Dave Van Ronk, The Chad Mitchell Trio, The Big Three, Hedy West, Ian & Sylvia, Tom Paxton, Peter, Paul & Mary, Bob Gibson, Judy Henscke, BOB DYLAN, Dave Van Ronk & The Ragtime Jug Stompers, Jesse Colin Young, The Holy Model Rounders, Joan Baez, The Even Dozen Jug Band, Judy Roderick, Martin & Neil, Bonnie Dobson, The Modern Folk Quartet, Koerner, Ray & Glover, Buffy Saint-Marie, Eric Von Schmidt, Hamilton Camp, THE LIMELITERS; (how's that Rena?)...Phil Ochs, Richard & Mimi Farina, John Hammond, Jim Kweskin & The Jug Band, John Denver, Gordon Lightfoot, Eric Anderson, Tim Hardin, Richie Havens, Judy Collins, Fred Neil, Kathy & Carol, Tim Buckley, Tom Rush, David Blue, Taj Mahal, Paul Siebel, Loudon Wainwright III, Arlo Guthrie, Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, and Simon & Garfunkel. THEN... dump SSI, ween yer'self off of the dole, beg borrow or steel a job. Sell dope, moonshine, boot-legged tobacco, or yer' ass and report back to me. Hell, Ive' lisened to every one of these recording artists over the last few days. Fuck Brooklyn. Its KC MO. fer' me. Im' gettin' a studio Apt. come March and the hookin' some real work. I ant' gonna' burn the shit house down. Im' gonna roll up my sleeves. The media has us so fuckin' crazy, we only know where we've been. Dont back track. I say; Sail forward, if ya' meet the devil head on; cut em' into and sail between the two halves. Oh, ya;... The Bush ADMINISTRATION??..(or any other admin.).... Fuck em' if they cant take a joke. See ya in church. P.S...(somethin's happinin' here).....(wait till' they get a load of me). CLASS DISMISSED. Diggers, Kansas City.

Name: claude
EmailAddress: Dishonest Dubya
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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I'll bet that this little gem has not yet made it to some of your's attention. Once again, my Bodhidharma hitch hiker sent me something cool. This one had us in stiches, especially if you key in multiple effects, like the pretzel choke with the stupd things and switch costumes at the same time. 550kb. Guaranfuckingteed to make you ROFLMAO, so put down that Coffee first. You have been warned. <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html">

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Hey Eric~Are we still not able to use paragraphs here? Running by here quickly. It is I think basic human nature in all of us to want to change things as quickly as possible when uncomfortable if not downright painful. Violence has always been my first thought to course of action under such circumstances. But then it always comes down to who thinks they're right..and ofcourse EVERYONE thinks they're right..and then what? I learned the hard way..which means over and over..open direct action is not always the most effective (as in drive by shootings). Cunning. Got to use your brains and be unpredictable at the very least, to be more than just a moving target. I think the Diggers did that. Ariel and I were talking this morning about the failings of what could be called an experimental community from the "back to the land movement" in Southern Humboldt. To cut to this chase..it has failed. In picking it apart we came to the thoughts were it fell apart due to big pot money creating a lack of need of one another leading to seperation and a rapid breaking down of the initial vision. I think this came about because we were so focused originally in having no rules..therefore no framework for community. No rules that make the individual all important. The added factor there being secrecy. I just wanted to throw this out. I think a whole study could be done on that community as the perfect example of what we got wrong, the the reprocussions to the following generation..which is horrible to the extreme. One way of filtering out what we got right. What did we get right? And whats going to get us through this next round? More barbeques definitely is on the right track! Sorry hope this wan't too much coffee.

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Mark: Here's a web page that lists locations where WU is showing: http://www.upstatefilms.org/weather/showing.html -- currently, only the Elmwood Theater in Berkeley has it in the Bay Area. (This is where I went to catch it last night.)

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Eric, Can you tell me where you saw the WU film? I want to see it again and take some friends but cannot locate a theater in the South Bay that is running it. Thanks.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Eric, I have the same conflicting reactions. In those days, I rooted for WU out of anger and hatred of the regime that represented our country. The level of violence was everywhere then, on the streets in front of the Oakland Induction Center, the Berkeley campus and Peoples Park, attacks on the Black Panthers, and tear gas, batons, and fire hoses just about anywhere in the country. Even for me, the hard core edge of the vibe at Altamont had something of a existential realization of what we were up against. I think in part the government facilitated the backlash by the methods they used to destroy the left. The attacks by the WU were to be symbolic targets but how long would be if they continued before that selection process changed? There is a part of me now that rages and wants to strike out but I know it has to be channeled to a productive direction. If the regime in the US doesn't change and their agenda moves forward the sparks will fly soon enough. Hopefully, somehow we can avoid that and stay out of the circle of violence that has characterized the American method of conflict resolution. I keep hearing my brain play back that old Frank Zappa song that the street person sings opening the first Digger Film "Trouble Coming Everday".

Name: FYI - Service (trivia)
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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On "Meet the Pres" - (s) - Bush said: "War on Terror" 9 times --- He said: "Yeah" nine times - and most blatantly said: "I'm a War President" (once) and "It's a War of Necessity" (once) - Saddly he did not say: "I guess I fucked up big time huh?" [end trivia]

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Hey, everyone... I went and saw The Weather Underground documentary last night. The film was very well done, I understand now why it got an Oscar nomination. However, I'm struggling today with all these strange feelings, almost like the morning after a bad acid trip. It feels like bad karma left unresolved. Walking out of the theater I was thinking, there was something very pure about the WU, at least as the filmmakers portrayed them. Their campaign of bombings directed at the most oppressive American institutions (military, police, prisons, corporations) in the midst of an immoral and illegal war, is in the best tradition of American revolutionary action. (I've been reading "The First American Revolution" -- an eye-opener for anyone who wants to lay claim to Sam Adams and the American colonial revolutionaries.) And still, there's something dark and sinister, irrational, crazed about the WU's actions in the 1970s. The only thought that could rectify this contradiction was that they were following a different path. Not the one the Free Food Family communes were following. We believed in revolution too, but not through violence, one through individuals changing one at a time. That's what the counterculture stood for, I think. The WU must have thought of themselves as the vanguard of the counterculture, but they were deluded. Of course, we were all deluded, that's part of that "bad karma" feeling. There's something we left unfinished back in the 60s and 70s. It still gnaws on our collective soul.

Name: Joe
EmailAddress:
Date: 08 Feb 2004

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Nice to hear your take on things again Steve. I was kinda wondering what you were doing in all of the snow. I used to work at the Grant Ave. station in Brooklyn in my TA days. I know you passed that station a few times. I was watching a program this morning about a program to develop technology to deflect asteroids to hit military targets in space and on earth. What could possible go wrong?

Name: Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Talk to ya Monday perhaps. You can fill me in.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Mark; Dontcha' love gettin' lied to (for yer' own good??)... George is a cross between a red-headed step daughter and three ex wives. (sorry gals, but he aint got the balls to be refered to as an ex husband). Truth is I cant help but like the guy. All for the wrong reasons. What is he doin' in that position??..Its the rip off of the century. A real man woulda' said: I cant take the helm under these sercumstances. Ah... Hell Al;... lets flip for it.

Name: Steve
EmailAddress: silentsteveboyd@hotmail.com
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Now get this: out here at night there is no sound. Rather; the lack of noise. I got right into it. No cultural shock at all. My shadow and I are taking the 90 year yougin' to church in the A.M. Oh;..ya.. I found my shadow. There was a kiss on the edge of her lips that was for me only. I dont tell her stories of the lost boys as I dont wish to change in her eyes. Im' ten foot tall ya' know. Know somethin'??..A man can always be a boy... but a boy can never be a man. Shit. It only took me half a century. Upon my return I know that NYC can and will never be the same for me. How could it? Why would it?... (should it???)... oh; there I go again. P.S. Did anyone else out there get their tit caught in the Karmic whringer???...what happened to the last four months??? Better of left in the dark I guess,...maybe Im' ready for another peak period. Any wind mills out there??..ah; I mean dragons.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Steve, Cheeseburgers here on the west coast tonight. Cold for us this time of year.....been in the mid fifties for week or so now. I figure if I barbecue hard enough the damn weather will turn. I haven't figured out what I can do hard enough to run these MF's out of the frickin' government either. Had a high temp discussion about the futility of the "political process" with my dear old parents the other day. They hate Bush bad, but put the word anarchy in a sentence somewhere in the conversation and wigs flip. I think the White House should secede from the Union and go it alone, whaddya think? They could relocate it somewhere like Belize and just get it over with. Fire up the hog roasting pit, stick some little paper umbrellas in their martinis, lock and load the artillery banks on the beach and lob missles at passing tankers. Couldn't they be happy with that? We could even help them stuff a bunch of offshore oil wells just outside the shorebreak to pump up the ambiance. Hell, maybe we could put Bush on a Greyhound for a few weeks, that out to do it. Lock him in the head for day or so would be good, get him some of that road trip aromatherapy.

Name: Well; thats a sign: STEVE it is!!!!
EmailAddress: Mezzerra
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Hey Mark; Steve here; tonight it was Ham Bone & beans, corn bread & butter, spinnach salad and Ice cream w/ angel food cake & cherry pie filling. I earned my beans by supplying digger energy to clear her walk from the blizzard. Bounced out here from the coldest NYC winter in 60 years, so this does seem mild. That first three day NY storm found me ridding the A Train none stop from way uptown all the way out to Far Rockaway. Three days and two nights chuggin' ensure and pissin' in the empty cans. It was right out of the twilight zone. Slept in short intervals.Oh; speaking of ridding.. on a greyhound I met a Native American Poet holy woman. (doncha love when that happens)... anyway, she admired my alarm clock and my winning ways with the child across the Isle. She layed some stories on me and photographed my "Jinx Proof" tattoo. I turned her onto the site. May hear from her soon. She's got the power for sure. I Inadvertantly gave her as well as the M27 sweety my E Mail adress; (which I checked after a few months to find that due to inactivity has been dumping everything).. so I kick started it again. Am jumping to the M27 site now. Back at ya' later. Hey,... aint George a pip!!!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Jag - thanks for the sweet music!

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Steve, Biscuits and gravy....hmmm reminds me of the old SOS entree in the mess hall. Eat yer spinach....arrgh. Looks like the next big deal will be on March 20 in San Francisco for us. Bush says he is going on Meet the Press in the morning to kick some ass. So...where did you say the WMDs were? Oh yes.....how many people have you killed and maimed so far? Also....I hear you want to go to Mars? About those tax cuts....what about the raise in rent to the state of Calif. for the Hetch Hetchy Resevoir, you know the one that stores water for the Bay Area? You raised the rent from $30,000 a year to 8 million bucks a year...you gonna punk AHnold like you did Gray Davis? You want to spend how many millions to teach gays and lesbians to be heterosexual and go to your church? Hey...whatever happened to that guy...Osama something? Here, have a pretzel, you fuck. Hey all you New Yorkers, Ahnold was in Manhattan a guest of G. Pataki to attend a 15,000 buck a plate dinner with donations accepted up to $500,000 to help with the Terminators effort in California.

Name: Mute(s) For Peace
EmailAddress: Safe House
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Why am I a security risk???.... (search Me). Later folks. Im' dinning tonight w' a 90 year ol' lady. Last night we had buisqits, sausage gravey, scrambled eggs & spinich salad. Midwesterners are hospitable and cleaver. (Im' on the Missouri side.) See ya after the feast. Hey, I hit town the night of the big snow ( as usual) deepest in ten years.

Name: Steward Brandt
EmailAddress: (a name that was in a hat)
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Hey; after months of wlkin' about, I ran into a real joy of alady from the M27 Coalition at a NYC book store and she invited me to a cafe to talk over my involvement in an upcomming action. I was very reseptive and indicated that getting arrested at this point would be a step up the social ladder. ( a career move... as it were)... so any way, we make the date and the big night pops and I find my self in the Mid West instead of that little cafe. Somethins' happnin' here. I think that the "Down Time" has passed. I made it. Will get back into the movement after settling at the Green Point in Brooklyn. Its much more "Bokowski-ish" than the River View. Will keep you posted as to the street action; but only after the fact. Its gonna be real hit & run this time. Watch out George. Oh, ya... fuck you Prez.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Sorry, if you try to cut and paste the URL below it won't work. Not sure why that is but I posted the article on Free City News. I wanted to get it one here because I saw it on the Yahoo news site and then they pulled it off. I searched AP news archives and found it buried there. Here is the first paragraph: Feds Win Right to War Protesters' Records Sat Feb 7, 2:06 PM ET Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! BY RYAN J. FOLEY, Associated Press Writer DES MOINES, Iowa - In what may be the first subpoena of its kind in decades, a federal judge has ordered a university to turn over records about a gathering of anti-war activists. In addition to the subpoena of Drake University, subpoenas were served this past week on four of the activists who attended a Nov. 15 forum at the school, ordering them to appear before a grand jury Tuesday, the protesters said.

Name: That quiet dude..(according to the brothers....
EmailAddress: (do they still call em' brothers???
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Ah... lets see.. I dumped Clyde & scrabled across the hood of a moving car and crassed a run-a-way baby carriage down the side walk. Headed straight for an intersection curb in China town. Hell. Simple mistake. The stroller was covered w/ a plastic form-fitting transparent hood due to the heavey ran. The Chineese cleared the street as there had been n AK 47 shoot out a few days prior. The kid kept poking its little head around and got real terrified. As the rid sped up; it dawned on me that there was no grade (slope) to the street. When the tiny tot high-sided around the corner, I realized that it was a motorized wheel chair. (dont-cha hate when that happens?) I regained my composure. Two dwarfs in china town. What are the odds? Oh... Chineese drivers!??.. two cats from the east hooked clyde w/ thier mirror and drug me down the street between them and the parked cars. Had it not been for the springer front end, it would have drove the forks into the street and blown & bent the rim. I wrestled em' like a bear and kept kickin' the front tire to keep er' forward bound all at about 20 MPH. The cats finnally glanced over and were horrified; (as at that point I was laughin' my ass off) In my mind's eye it couldnt have been staged as well. Tell a stunt man to try it) anyway, I ended up giving Clyde to a coast to coast junkie that I call Black Sullivan. Ahh...I had been considering tossing Clyde into the Hudson; but figured Ide' be next. (I works that way). Ahh.. Rather down; as Ive' been in with the bums who I ran wuith back in 2000 and they are still;.. well, they are just still. (as in Idle). We all have one thing in common; other than gambling, doping, drinking, begging, smoking etc. We all value our time more than money. Im' amazed at the shear volume of friend who are in Liquid Hand-cuffs (methadone). The Lower East Side die-hards (and believe me: they are dying hard); would rather fight that switch. This is the Ol' Peace-Pot-&-Micro Dot crowd. They remember the U.A.W.M.F.'s and all speak "Highley" of Emmitt also. I tend to keep my mouth shut. (remember) Ahh.. lets see. Oh; get this. Most of em' dont remember me from 2000. I had a full beard extra muscle tone and could realy talk. Ahh...As I said, dont feel preagnant; I cut my entire family off; never did make New Hampshire. THis three month quest Ironed me right out. I hurdled the "wall of "Nostalgia" and morphed into the man that I was always meant to be. Oh, the boots. Changed my luck and the boots. Bought a new pair of brown Frye Engineer boots. Im' down to one pair of Levis, 1 pr. wool socks, 1pr cut-off wool sweater sleaves (as leggings, one pendleton wool shirt, 1 cashmere scarf and a navy rain proof pull over. Got an old alarm clock, a coin silver Columbus hunters pocket watch, a small Italian lock blade and more confidence that any man in America. Hey, I get along great w/ the growng central and south Americans in NYC. Hard Time? We dont know the meaning. Any way, my editor friend has urged me to start writting. Ive' weened myself from booze which was a real temptation; as in Tribecka you can skim the trash for empty top shelf jugs and pour cap full after cap full of fire water and get smashed by the fifth block. (Ya gotta hold up yer' little finger while tippin')... that way the cops only smile. Try gettin' that hint from Helouese. Later all. Hi Rena baby. Hey Nik & all.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

Comments

Here it comes again, Rummy and Ashcroft on the prowl. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story...

Name: PSteve - IAMIMAM(Suspect)
EmailAddress: @suspect.org
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Name: FYI - Service(Suspect)
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Haloooo Steve....... I knew you would surface safe and sound - mutted for now eh waht? We'll see you in the mean time.... How are your boots holding up?

Name: Jag
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Glad your back SS Boyd! Hope the journey was all it could be

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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HEY STEVE.....Damn, you really had me thinkin'. It is very good to know you are well.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Mute for Peace - Welcome home! Eileen, Mark - re: "the video" all I could do was pray and groan - and to remind us all of Tommy Kelly and the Tommy Foundation - http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/tommy.html .....struggling to help parents who lose their children. - So sad...

Name: patman
EmailAddress: lottofever
Date: 07 Feb 2004

Comments

Well I was only off about a week on my bet on the "COSMIC GAMBLER'S" return. I put my $ on January 29th a few days after my Birfday on Jan. 21. The last time the nameless one was want to check in I also started a lottery on his return and lo and behold in no time at all he was back.Probably no psychic ability on my part, The real magic trick was probably because no one else picked a date. PS> I hear ya' Jag. Well put. Love and Peace(anyway you can find it to get you through) Patrick

Name: r n a
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

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Hey Cal, Welcome Back. Some of us w-o-r-r-i-e-d about YOU! More than that, your life force is welcome here. Sending you love, r n a

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 07 Feb 2004

Comments

OH MY GOSH!!!!!! DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!!! You totally freeked me out! I've been having conversations with you for days so I guess I should have known you were out there. I can't tell you how glad I am..and no doubt everyone else..you have shown up. YES! Hey at this point any name will make us all happy. Do tell..catch us up cause we've missed you terribly.

Name: Cal Bagby
EmailAddress: Hey Now
Date: 07 Feb 2004

Comments

Mute Missing. Boyd Feared Dead. Ahhhh... Im' In the midwest...bummed around NYC's lower East Side since Mid Oct. Had cut everyone out of what I thought was my life. Aint it the way?. Steve the Bat now lives in the eaves of a carpenter shake by the East River. Will hit the city soon and grab a room in Brooklyn. Was prompted to write by a Line Editor of an NY publication. (No Names). Hell; Im' In Kansas City living w/ former beauty queen (no; not that breed). Havent skimmed the page. Hey Sam; I got yer' stars & Heart letter. Later all. P.S. Still havent found a name.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

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Today I felt like all of you, having that grinding, sinking feeling seeing video of that 11 year old being led away. I just can't grasp the depth of the failure of our species sometimes. I am a father of girls but it goes much deeper than that, the sadness is very hard. I could cry out but it won't help.| Also today I received this post, the rest of the article is long so I will get it on the Free City News as the NY Times requires you sign up before you can access there website.| A Berkeley Lecture on Power's Limits, by an Expert http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/06/national/06BERK.html By DEAN E. MURPHY Published: February 6, 2004 BERKELEY, Calif., Feb. 5 — If the life of Robert S. McNamara is a series of unfinished circles, one of the biggest ones was closed here Wednesday night. Mr. McNamara, the defense secretary in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, fielded questions from center stage in a packed auditorium at his alma mater, the University of California, Berkeley, for the first time since graduating in 1937. Under the glare of bright lights, Mr. McNamara, 87, faced an audience of graying hippies, men with Vietnam draft lottery numbers still imprinted in their minds and an assortment of 1960's radicals who had devoted the better part of their youths opposing him. Mr. McNamara's son, Craig, a walnut farmer who had joined protests here against his father's war, came to listen, as did Daniel Ellsberg, the one-time government official who in 1971 leaked a top-secret report commissioned by Mr. McNamara on American involvement in Southeast Asia. But instead of angry exchanges, there was applause and nods of sympathy from Mr. Ellsberg and many of the others, as Mr. McNamara, his voice pitched and his ballpoint pen jabbing in the air, spoke pointedly about the lessons of war. "We human beings killed 160 million other human beings in the 20th century," he said. "Is that what we want in this century? I don't think so." Though he appeared on stage with Errol Morris, whose Academy Award-nominated documentary film, "The Fog of War," is based on interviews with Mr. McNamara, this was a solo act by an old man with something urgent to say.

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

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Jag~Knowing nothing of todays news, that is more than enough info. Must have been in the air..was thinking as I was driving, all the horror stories that keep being added to the list just of folks I know, talking about how they grew up. Not to mention what is going on ever too close at home. Nothing seems easy any more. And reading the paper has become a Steven King nightmare. It's gotten so I want to put my hands up and say STOP don't tell me! It makes me wonder how people like my daughter, who works often with the worst case teens and inmates, as a therapist or an evaluator..how does she sleep at night much less fuction during the day? But at this point how do any of us stay conscious? And how do we deal with such an overload of terrible knowledge? Give me a smoke, a drink, a drug and a lot of TV? Call to God/dess? Is there something outside ourselves that mend the broken? All I can do is battle to keep my own head above water and not add to the misery. I keep seeing more notes and messages from the '60s. From the days we were seeing God and having visions of a better way of living. Love Life, kept floating up yesterday. It is currently my mantra.

Name: Jag
EmailAddress: The evil among us
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

I saw the news today, oh boy! Thought I'd become jaded and cynical, immune to tragedy and pathos. The sight of that child. That eleven year old never to turn twelve. Her abductors' tattoo’s writhing up his forearm’s while he takes her wrist and leads her to an indescribable fate. Thought I’d stopped letting the depravity bother me. Thought I’d pushed the pain of others down to a secret hideaway in my psyche. That such brutality can walk among us is a chilling thought. No hell is good enough for such a deed. I prayed when I first saw the video, prayed that this would not end the way it did. Prayed to who? To what? I haven’t a clue. I just reacted. Just a reflex learned as a child. A child much like her. To no avail apparently. Now I remember why I sought solace from the pain in chemicals that contained a special pain of there own.

Name: goody
EmailAddress: tary@bluewin.ch
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

i like this site this is my site :-) http://www.cartoonnetwork.de

Name: McNigm
EmailAddress: retrogradeMercury@bassackwards.com
Date: 06 Feb 2004

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WTF ?? .. still awaitin my pearls & di'monds fum Taiwan, now Nijearicans ?? cann't cope w/ information overlaod hear, goin' to the sweatlodge write know .. koll mee affter th shizzle fizzle

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

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Rena~I saw in the Hawaii Tribune-Herald yesterday the military is about ("proposing") to buy 25,000 acres on the west side of the Big Island this yr and "fix" the Saddle Gap road so traffic can cross the island easier. Also the methanfedimine controll and rehab moneys have been cut back by 8.5 and some freak wants to legalize their church's use of pot? Could things get any weirder over there? I think so!! The trade off apparently is more money in the schools? but cutting back agricultural dept. What the heck? Have I got this all right? Yeah and there's more money being waved around. Now we know why they so graciously gave up the island they TOOK for military purposes. Oh such snakes!! Now we get to see if the HAwaiian solidarity movement is solid enough to keep the islands from being turned inside out to the gov'ts military tune. No this is not making me very happy.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

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ERIC!! get this nutcase off of here

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

...are you mr Shand trying to pique our interest in yr site? Since you chose not to give a name, makes me curious about you, and anyone who mentions mugu...may be my ignorance but I want to keep viruses at a minimum on my computer.

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

Really interesting link by Mr Shand, I have heard of Mugabe's reign of terror in Zimbabwe and his appropriation of white farmers land, ostensibly to give to poor blacks but in reality to further his political hold on the goverment. Mugabe was considered the savior of "Rhodesia" in the seventies when he led the revolt against the white ruling class but since then he has degenerated into a petty tyrant who refuses to relinquish the reins of power.

Name: chuckwagon pete
EmailAddress: oldbonedigger@earthlink .net
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

Ever get that unsolicited e mail from west africa,(probably east st. louis), that tells you of all the wealth that can be redistributed to you a total stranger?...?only in america and they now have my email address, actually the next sierra leone scam that i get will be answered w/ a plea to help me find my long lost mexican gold .. si .. the same gold of maximillian the emperor cause the gold of absolute rulers is better i theenk sayeth pato de perro

Name: Collins Shand (Mr).
EmailAddress: collins_shandsecuredmail@yahoo.com
Date: 06 Feb 2004

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Dear Good fellows, I am MR.COLIN SHAND, a white Zimbabwean Farmer, the owner of Diary farms limited in Zimbabwe. I own three tobacco farms in Chipinge,and I am also a majority owner of Glendevon Farm also situated in Chipinge,in Zimbabwe. You can see more details about my situation and BBC interviews on the website below <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2187981.stm> I am advertising in the need for me to have a foreign partner in your country has become necessary due to our plans to relocate to that country so that I can purchase some lands and start farming all over again as the present political instability in Zimbabwe does not encourage financial investment as the environment is no longer condusive for farming investment and most of all security is not insured, just as reported by most international media. If you are interested please i want you to immedaitely contact me on my email address collins_shandsecuredmail@yahoo.com , and also send me your details for easy comunications. Thanks Collins Shand (Mr).

Name: Jim Lewis
EmailAddress: jim@lewislandscape.com
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

Still trying to figure out exactly what this site is about. But it's interesting to say the least. Jim Lewis http://www.lewislandscape.com

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

Talk about dumbass...I just read that Bush, on the same day the Ricin showed up in the Congressional mail room, submitted a budget cut to discontinue funding any further research by the Homeland Security Dept. on how to decontaminate buildings of this kind of stuff. The lameass response was that the had already spent enough money on that. Ha! And speaking of dumbasses...how bout that Dennis Miller, I think he is turning into Geraldo Rivera.

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: conspiracy tits theory
Date: 06 Feb 2004

Comments

Nicole, they could have ...... who the heck knows anymore. Who knows how this dog is being wagged. Hammond, yes I really enjoyed "Investigating the Meaningless." Seriously I can never understand how those speeches get televised without comment on their dumbness. Wait a minute, how convenient, speeches that don't have to be "dumbed down" for us!! Oh I get it.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

Hammond, congrats. I'm looking forward to when you can tell us about it...will you do a NYC reading? ... Did you happen to read Mark Monford(?) yesterday in the Chronicle, www.sfgate.com , it was so spot on...about sending the message out to kids...paraphrased, "oh yeah, a womans brest is out of line, however homoerotic NFL headbashing, viagra,viagra, viagra, and some guy fetishly licking his SUV, ball biting dogs, and a elderly couple beating eachother up over a bag of chips..." just to name a few...yeah, take another ritalin or paxil dear and just go to sleep. I didn't like any of the half time show, it was way too busy, dis jointed and quite frankly not at all entertaining, to me, bunch of crap really, to me, however Beyonce sang the hell out of the Star Spangled Banner...one of the best versions yet...however, there were side bets at the pub where I watched the game, whether she (beyonce) would be dressed classy or sluty...It's amazing the energy spent on that the whole business. Silly really...but as you say...it's a mere distraction to the real issues at hand...OH OH my conspiritorial side is raising it's head...no Nicole, they didn't orchestrate it on purpose to slide their uptight values into place...get your feet back on the ground girl, go eat or something...okay, I'm better now...later.

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

Mark - Nic, thanks for the links - great material - great minds - great photos........Ohio Girl - -speaking of "meaningless" did you read my last CP bit? ------"Investigating the Meaningless" [ revisited ] - http://www.counterpunch.org/guthrie02032004.html The overwhelming response (the most saught after event on the web in internet history) to Janet's [hardly inadvertant] exposure is so indicative of just how easily the general public's (and the media's) attention is diverted from investigating life threatening and life affirming issues of the moment. The average attention span just doesn't reach the other side of the great water - the bridge to understanding our world - and then actually doing something about it has been replaced by pierced flesh and glitzy S/M gear in the blink of an eye. - Only in America folks - Europeans for instance would have laughed in the moment - and then back to the business of real life...Like openly keeping their leaders in check and protesting the US/UK WAR IN IRAQ - just for starters........ Now I am jut blathering on (stop)........ Peace and Harmony to one and all - H. ....PS ---- [inally in the final final daze of completing my first screenplay. Should be registered with the Guild by next Monday and then it is out the door to be read!!! - YA-HOO!!!!! it has been quite a journey these past 6 months]

Name: Nik
EmailAddress: Try this link....
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/archive/2004/02/05/plnetdrm.DTL

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

Great article in the Chronical about Planet Drum complete with photos of Peter Judy and our Mark!!! go to www.sfgate.com and click on planet drum story...the link is too long...i think.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

I cut and pasted the complete URL below into my browser and it took me to the SF Gate article.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

Here is a new article on Planet Drum Foundation in SF Gate, the web news page of the San Francisco Chronicle. Great pictures and text. Take a look and click on the pictures for a larger size. I hope this link works. http://www.sfgate.com/...

Name: Ohio girl
EmailAddress: nipply weather
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

Janet Jackson just exposed the "tip" of the iceberg of meaningless news coverage, when they should indeed be investigating the meaninglessness of those priceless quotations out of Washington. Why do reality bachelor TV shows get news coverage and lots of it? Why are these shows considered to be news, did people forget they are NOT REAL?? The government is real, unfortunately, as least I think it's real. Oh well my husband isn't into sports but he did truly enjoy the superbowl this time so I guess that's worth something! Peace

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

I don't know about S Ca but I know Humboldt County has been experimenting for yrs with combining all varieties of cops, and want to be cops, into their own Gestapo. We are quite familiar with the police state there. I am not being sarcastic or exaggerating. The growers and tree hungers have been facing the brunt of it for yrs with little if any restraint. It is hard to convey how frightening and the seriousness of what it was like to live with. Everyone has assumed all along that it was to see what they could do and get away with and it would sooner or later become the modis operendi (sp?) widespread. The courts here have been very sympathic to big business (timber) and have fought hard against growers and the local laws. Even Fish and Game and the Park service are more like cops. We're dancing on the edge here.

Name: Birdie Nester
EmailAddress:
Date: 05 Feb 2004

Comments

BLACKS BEACH DIGGERS--your link on the Diggers site (what's new on the site map) takes me to a CONTACT LENS AD! Have ya'll been subverted?

Name: watchin' watchers
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Feb 2004

Comments

FYI; The State of California is also "looking: into creating a "United" police force, ie; Highway Patrol, Governmental Guard, Forest Ranger all rolled into one. Possibly even a total "California Police Authority" where all police agencies funnel into, and awnser to Giant Police State. And this is California. This would include the penal systems as well. Big Brother is grouping.

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Feb 2004

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Try this one and click on the Corny Bumpus story http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Feb 2004

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me too...

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Feb 2004

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Mark - I cut paste the url but got this ---- FILE NOT FOUND (ERROR)

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Feb 2004

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Here is a link to an obiturary of a Santa Cruz, Ca local musician that goes back to my teenage years rocking out at the Coconut Grove, The "Old" Catalyst, The White Buffalo and the Civic Auditorium here. Some of you may know of him. http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/ February/04/local/stories/02local.htm

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 04 Feb 2004

Comments

Here's another possible outcome of global warming: the next ice age, overnight: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17711 Maybe Jerry Pournelle will turn out to be right.

Name: FYI - (PS)
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Feb 2004

Comments

The Campaign to Demilitarize the Police ---- http://www.demilitarizethepolice.netfirms.com/

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Feb 2004

Comments

Another (vague) update on the watchers who watch the watchers watching the watched (us?) -> 'Embedding' CIA Agents Within Local Police Depts......... H.R. 3439, making its way through Congress, would authorize the federal government to "embed" CIA agents within local police departments to blur the distinction between local cops and feds. - The Campaign to Demilitarize the Police is organizing to stop the bill, and has been targeting the bill's author, Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), with protest actions.

Name: FYI - Service
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Feb 2004

Comments

Another (vague) update on the watchers who watch the watchers watching the watched (us?) -> 'Embedding' CIA Agents Within Local Police Depts......... H.R. 3439, making its way through Congress, would authorize the federal government to "embed" CIA agents within local police departments to blur the distinction between local cops and feds. - The Campaign to Demilitarize the Police is organizing to stop the bill, and has been targeting the bill's author, Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), with protest actions.

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Feb 2004

Comments

Hammond, AMEN!!!

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Feb 2004

Comments

"Investigating The Meaningless" - - - http://www.counterpunch.org/guthrie02032004.html

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 03 Feb 2004

Comments

This mornings NY Times has this article about the astrological aspects of each democratic http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/03/opinion/03SULL.html?thnominee

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

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Oscar-Nominated Film To Show At Humboldt http://www.eurekareporter.com/Stories/cm-02020405.htm 2/2/04 Mark Rudd, former National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society and a founder of the Weathermen, together with filmmaker Sam Green will speak after the showing of The Weather Underground on Feb. 13 at 6 p.m. in the Kate Buchanan Room at Humboldt State University. Rudd will hold private meetings with community organizers on the question of violence and nonviolence in revolutionary movements. Both events have been organized by Network or Resistance. Sam Green's new film, The Weather Underground, which played at the Arcata Minor Theater in September, had such great attendance it was held over for two weeks. The feature-length documentary, just nominated for an Oscar, explores the rise and fall of the Weathermen. In this film, former Weathermen members speak candidly about the idealistic passion that drove them to "bring the war home" and the trajectory that placed them on the FBI's most-wanted list."I had always been frustrated growing up in the 1980s and 1990s that young people weren't that political. There was something about the story that I felt was inspiring in a complex way. …" Green said. Thirty years ago, Rudd and the Weathermen broke away from S.D.S., the largest U.S. organization of radical students in the 1960s, and announced its intention to overthrow the U.S. government.The Weather Underground bombed at least 20 targets in the United States, including the Pentagon and the White House and evaded one of the largest FBI manhunts in history. "We tried legal protest, and we did it for years, and it didn't work," Rudd said. "And more and more people were being killed, and the government was becoming more and more repressive at home. So we turned to violence as a necessity, because nothing else was working." Information and photos of The Weather Underground film available at www.upstatefilms.org/weather/. .

Name: Mark
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

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Tomas, I enjoyed your recent work as well.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

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Tomas ...nice writing.

Name: bluefin turtle
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

Comments

so acting pres. shrub is gonna form his own investigative commitee to check on the prewar WMD reports. did he learn this one from the acting gov. gropenfuher?? do we look that stupid??

Name: Eric
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

Comments

If you want to view the MoveOn.org ad that CBS refused to air during the SuperBowl: http://www.moveon.org/cbs/ad/

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

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A MESSAGE FROM YOUR PRESIDENT MY MAJOR ACHIEVEMENTS Just so you know: ...

[Deleted this message, which someone posted from numerous other web sites, for example:

http://www.arttec.net/Peace/BushRecord.pdf

--ed.]

Name: Nik
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

Comments

Check this out from todays NY Times...a "different" sort of digger By NEIL STRAUSS Published: February 2, 2004 ARTICLE TOOLS E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Format Most E-Mailed Articles Reprints & Permissions Single-Page Format ` READERS' OPINIONS Forum: Join a Discussion on Popular Music TIMES NEWS TRACKER Topics Alerts Music Washington (DC) Carol T. Powers for The New York Times Dori Hadar, left, and Frank Beylotte with Mr. Hadar's record collection, including records he has found at flea markets and thrift shops. ASHINGTON, Jan. 30 — The term diggers applies to those obsessed souls who dig through cardboard boxes and milk crates at flea markets and thrift stores in search of rare record albums. And according to the unwritten bylaws of diggers, the location at which any vinyl treasure is discovered is strictly confidential. This is a way of protecting one's turf, even if that turf is just a dust-covered wasteland of hand-me-downs. So it shall be that the location of one of the greatest digger discoveries of our time must remain a secret. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/02/arts/music/02MIKE.html?th

Name: Eileen
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

Comments

trying to get ready for school and have no time other than yes Nicole received CD Fri have not had time to focus on it but is at the top of the pile and I look forward to hearing what you sent!

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

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ps Michael Kavlan, Ta' failte rowath agus an nairaigh an dothar leat.

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

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that last post was not me...Eileen, did you ever recieve the cd I sent?

Name:
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

Comments

Erin Go Braless

Name: Nicole
EmailAddress:
Date: 02 Feb 2004

Comments

aye Michael Cavlan...MILE FAILTE

Name: Hammond
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Feb 2004

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Claude - Humm... well, there are any number of G/G on the market now - but orig. I think there were only 2 official releases (and then came others) - but how many G/G sessions? Lord - many many - but the set of concerts that preceded the orig, CD Grateful Dawg release (3 evenings I think - and all at the Warfield - I think). A tried and true tapper would know at the drop of a hat (I started to say "tab") - ah the daze eh? Try the Deadbase folks who calibrate the official memory bank. Like does anyone know how many times he sang: "What's Become of the Baby?" on stage? - They know.....

Name: patman
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Feb 2004

Comments

Hey everyone, Thought I'd check in. Caught Rickie Lee Jones and band at the Orangepeel here in Asheville Friday night.Taj Mahal played Saturday night could,nt afford both so flipped a coin.The club had a new years deal where you got 2 for 1 tickets all through January. My how Rickie Lee has continued to improve with age. She has one of the most interesting faces in the world.When she smiles she lights up like a Holy Jack-O-Lantern. Great jams by the band.Jazzy and funky. My moms doing better.Almost back to her mean ol' fiesty self. Welcome to the new folks. PEACE, PATRICK

Name: Tomas
EmailAddress: tomlaureld@yahoo.com
Date: 01 Feb 2004

Comments

A new day, a new month. Peace http://www.laurelrose.com/LR/THESUNDAY2004.HTM

Name: bluefin turtle
EmailAddress:
Date: 01 Feb 2004

Comments

up the rebels, michael!!

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